Tampa City Council - meeting transcription detail (2024)



TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:04:03AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:04:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:04:11AM ORDER.
9:04:12AM AT THIS TIME I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA FOR THE
9:04:14AM INVOCATION.
9:04:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:04:17AM I AM HONORED THIS MORNING TO INTRODUCE A GENTLEMAN TO DO THE
9:04:20AM INVOCATION.
9:04:20AM BEEN A DEACON, PREACHER AT 34th STREET CHURCH OF GOD.
9:04:29AM BEST OF ALL AND MOST LIKELY WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM FOR,
9:04:33AM HE'S JUST A PLAIN GOOD OLD FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.
9:04:36AM HE'S DONE SO MANY THINGS IN PUBLIC SERVICE, NOT ONLY THE
9:04:38AM COUNTY COMMISSION BUT HERE AT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:04:41AM ALSO THE CHAIRMAN FOR MANY YEARS.
9:04:42AM OUR FRIEND, MY FRIEND, TOM SCOTT.
9:04:45AM PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE
9:04:51AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

9:04:52AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:04:54AM IT IS ALWAYS MY JOY AND PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND ASK
9:04:57AM GOD'S BLESSINGS UPON YOU AND EVERY TIME I COME THROUGH THESE
9:05:01AM HALLS, IT BRINGS BACK A LOT OF MEMORIES OF BEING HERE.
9:05:04AM SO I THANK GOD FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:05:11AM ONE THING I FIND, I'VE GOTTEN OLDER AND EVERY DAY YOU WANT
9:05:17AM TO MAKE IT THE BEST DAY.
9:05:18AM BE A BLESSING, TOUCH SOMEBODY'S LIFE, AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:05:21AM FATHER, WE THANK YOU.
9:05:24AM YOUR WORD INSTRUCTS US TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU IN ALL OF OUR WAYS
9:05:27AM AND YOU WILL GIVE DIRECTION TO OUR PATH.
9:05:29AM WE THANK YOU TODAY AS WE COME.
9:05:32AM WE DO AS YOUR WORD INSTRUCTS US.
9:05:34AM WE PRAY TODAY, GOD, FOR OUR COUNTRY, FOR OUR NATION.
9:05:37AM WE THANK YOU FOR HER FOR WHAT SHE STANDS -- JUSTICE,
9:05:42AM EQUALITY, AND LIBERTY FOR ALL.
9:05:43AM TODAY AS WE FIND OURSELVES IN YOUR PRESENCE, WE RECOGNIZE
9:05:47AM THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES THAT ARE AHEAD OF US, BUT YET
9:05:51AM WE'RE ALSO GRATEFUL AND THANKFUL FOR THE MANY OPPORTUNITIES
9:05:55AM WE HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR
9:05:57AM NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN OUR CITY.
9:05:59AM THANK YOU TODAY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT MAKE DECISIONS
9:06:04AM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:06:06AM I PRAY FOR EACH ONE TODAY THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM, YOU
9:06:10AM GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE, GIVE THEM PURPOSE.

9:06:13AM AND I PRAY, GOD, THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE WILL BE FOR THE
9:06:17AM SAFETY, THE GOOD, THE RELAXATION AND THE -- FOR OUR
9:06:23AM COMMUNITY, OUR FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:06:27AM BLESS OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM, BLESS OUR FIRST
9:06:31AM RESPONDERS.
9:06:31AM THANK YOU FOR THEM WHO GO OUT EVERY DAY TO PUT THEIR LIVES
9:06:36AM ON THE LINE TO PROTECT US, THIS COMMUNITY AND CITY.
9:06:38AM WE PRAY FOR THEM TODAY THAT YOU GUARD THEM, YOU PROTECT
9:06:41AM THEM, YOU GUIDE THEM, YOU WATCH OVER THEM.
9:06:43AM THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
9:06:44AM WE PRAY THAT YOU BLESS HER AND HER STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION.
9:06:47AM BLESS THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:06:51AM MAY SHE STAND TALL, MAY SHE STAND FIRM.
9:06:56AM MAY HER LIGHT SHINE BRIGHTER THAN EVER BEFORE.
9:07:00AM THAT THERE IS A FUTURE THAT IS AHEAD OF US.
9:07:03AM GREAT DAYS THAT ARE AHEAD OF US.
9:07:04AM WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
9:07:07AM WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU, IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:07:11AM >> AMEN.
9:07:12AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:07:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:07:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:07:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.

9:07:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:39AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REVIEW THE
9:07:44AM RULES AND PROCEDURES TODAY?
9:07:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:07:47AM GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:07:49AM MARTIN SHELBY, THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
9:07:51AM I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO REMIND YOU OF THE RULES OF DECORUM
9:07:57AM IN THE COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
9:08:00AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:02AM AS YOU MAY BE AWARE, THERE IS A BOX OUTSIDE WITH COMMENT
9:08:07AM CARDS.
9:08:08AM YOU FILL OUT YOUR NAME AND A FEW OTHER PIECES OF INFORMATION
9:08:11AM AND YOU PLACE THAT CARD IN THE BOX IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK AT
9:08:14AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:15AM NOW, PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGENDA, WILL TAKE
9:08:17AM PLACE THIS MORNING AFTER THE CEREMONIAL ITEMS AND THE
9:08:21AM APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:08:21AM AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE YOUR
9:08:27AM OPINIONS, YOUR FACTS, WHY YOU'RE HERE WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:08:34AM YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:38AM NOW, IF YOU NOTICE WHEN YOU APPROACH THE LECTERN, THERE IS A
9:08:41AM LITTLE BOX WITH THREE COLORED LIGHTS UP THERE.

9:08:44AM RED, YELLOW, GREEN.
9:08:45AM WHEN YOU BEGIN AT THREE MINUTES, YOU HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT.
9:08:48AM WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS YELLOW AND YOU HEAR ONE BEEP, IT MEANS
9:08:51AM YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT TO PLEASE WRAP UP.
9:08:53AM WHEN THE LIGHT TURNS RED, THEN THE TONE WILL GO OFF AND THE
9:08:58AM TONE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL YOU STOP SPEAKING.
9:09:00AM PLEASE DO NOT CONTINUE SPEAKING AFTER YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.
9:09:04AM JUST LIKE ANY OTHER RULE, IF THE RULES ARE VIOLATED, THE
9:09:08AM CHAIR MAY RULE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
9:09:10AM AS A CONSEQUENCE, THEN THE CHAIR MAY ASK THAT YOU BE REMOVED
9:09:14AM FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S MEETING.
9:09:17AM PLEASE BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
9:09:18AM ALSO BE MINDFUL, COUNCIL, REGARDING ADDRESSING YOUR COMMENTS
9:09:23AM TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL
9:09:26AM MEMBERS.
9:09:27AM PLEASE REFRAIN FROM PERSONAL ATTACKS ON ANY INDIVIDUAL
9:09:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEY ARE ADVISED BY ME AND IT IS IN
9:09:38AM THEIR RULES THAT THEY CANNOT ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE WITH YOU AND
9:09:41AM THEY CANNOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
9:09:43AM SO WHEN YOU COME UP HERE, IT IS TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION AND
9:09:46AM YOUR THOUGHTS AND YOUR FACTS TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT
9:09:50AM PLEASE DO NOT EXPECT THEM TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOU.
9:09:52AM I WILL SAY THAT YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE OBSERVED BY BOTH
9:09:56AM THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
9:09:59AM THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE TO HEAR -- THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO

9:10:03AM THE MAYOR IS HERE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS PERSONALLY.
9:10:06AM SO THAT BEING SAID, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THE RULES OF DECORUM
9:10:14AM AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:16AM CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE OCTOBER
9:10:20AM 17th MEETING, 2024?
9:10:21AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:10:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:25AM AYE.
9:10:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD ADD ONE MORE THING, MR.
9:10:29AM CHAIRMAN, WITH REGARD TO THE BOX THAT YOU HAVE OUTSIDE, YOU
9:10:33AM MUST FILL OUT A CARD IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE FLOOR
9:10:36AM BECAUSE THE CHAIR WILL THEN CALL YOUR NAME AND THEN ALSO
9:10:40AM TELL THE NEXT PERSON WHO IS UP NEXT IN LINE SO YOU'LL BE
9:10:43AM ABLE TO BE PREPARED TO GET UP TO VOTE.
9:10:46AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:10:48AM IF YOUR NAME CANNOT BE READ, YOUR NAME CANNOT BE CALLED.
9:10:51AM THE OTHER ISSUE, YOU CAN SEE IT IS A FULL HOUSE TODAY.
9:10:53AM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN TO THE
9:10:56AM SECOND FLOOR.
9:10:57AM WHEN THIS ROOM IS FILLED, THAT BOX WILL BE MOVED TO THE
9:10:59AM SECOND FLOOR, AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:11:02AM THE CARDS ARE COLLECTED UP UNTIL THE TIME OF THE START OF

9:11:05AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:11:06AM THOSE PEOPLE COMING IN LATE AFTER THE START OF PUBLIC
9:11:09AM COMMENT DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILL OUT THE CARD, DO
9:11:12AM NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UNFORTUNATELY, TO SPEAK THAT DAY.
9:11:15AM THEY CAN ALWAYS COME BACK THE NEXT TIME.
9:11:17AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:11:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:18AM I'LL GO OVER THE AGENDA FOR SOME HOUSEKEEPING.
9:11:21AM WE RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR ITEM
9:11:23AM NUMBER 8 TO BE TAKEN AS A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:11:27AM ONCE WE GET TO THAT, WE WILL TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE.
9:11:31AM ITEM 31, REQUEST FROM MR. MUTTERBACK REQUESTING ITEM 31
9:11:37AM CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 21st.
9:11:40AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
9:11:47AM MIRANDA.
9:11:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:11:48AM AYE.
9:11:51AM ITEM 63 AND 64 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:11:54AM ITEM NUMBER 65, THERE IS A REQUEST TO WITHDRAW, AND 66.
9:11:59AM BUT THESE ARE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
9:12:01AM SO AT THAT TIME, I WILL ASK FOR THAT MOTION AND WE'LL OPEN
9:12:05AM IT UP WHEN THE TIME COMES.
9:12:06AM IN REGARDS TO THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, CHIEF BENNETT WILL
9:12:12AM BE HERE.
9:12:13AM YOU'LL BE ADDRESSING AT THAT TIME?

9:12:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:12:18AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:12:20AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC AND THOUGHTS FOR OUR VETERANS FOR
9:12:23AM THIS COMING MONDAY.
9:12:24AM I DIDN'T KNOW IF COUNCIL'S PRIVILEGE IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
9:12:28AM WANTED ME TO ADDRESS WHAT I'M CALLING THE NON-AGENDA MOTION
9:12:32AM FOR 11A TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC YOUR REQUEST FOR THE --
9:12:38AM WHAT WE CALL THE HOT WASH ON OUR CALL.
9:12:40AM WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN THAT NOW?
9:12:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
9:12:44AM BECAUSE WE ARE MOVING IT, SO, YES.
9:12:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, OF COURSE, SUPPORTED BY
9:12:48AM COUNCIL REQUESTED AN E-MAIL VERSION OF A SWOT ANALYSIS DUE
9:12:54AM TOMORROW 11/8.
9:12:55AM WE TALKED OFF-LINE.
9:12:57AM THE DISASTER MANAGEMENT CYCLE IS SUCH THAT IT STARTS WITH
9:13:00AM MITIGATION, PREPAREDNESS, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY.
9:13:03AM WE'RE STILL IN A MARGIN OF OUR RESPONSE PHASE AND ULTIMATELY
9:13:08AM HEAVY IN OUR RECOVERY PHASE.
9:13:09AM THE CITY HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO A HOT WASH LED BY CHIEF
9:13:15AM TRIPP AND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT GROUP, SO WE REQUESTED TO
9:13:17AM PUSH THAT DATE OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
9:13:19AM OUR OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING OFF-LINE.
9:13:21AM WE CAN ASSURE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT PRIOR TO THE
9:13:25AM AFTER-ACTION REPORT, THE HOT WASH CAN COME OUT AND BE DONE

9:13:28AM IN THE SWOT ANALYSIS THAT WAS REQUESTED BY DEPARTMENT.
9:13:30AM IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC?
9:13:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT IT MOVE FORWARD TO
9:13:36AM EITHER -- WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE DATE BETWEEN THE 5th
9:13:38AM AND THE 19th.
9:13:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL BRING IT UP AT NEW BUSINESS.
9:13:42AM THAT HANDLES THAT.
9:13:43AM ITEM 72 AND 73 WILL BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:13:47AM ITEM 74, REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE 74 TO
9:13:51AM JANUARY 23rd, 2025.
9:13:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
9:13:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:13:57AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:57AM AYE.
9:13:59AM THEN WE HAVE A MEMO REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 78 BE
9:14:03AM CONTINUED TO JANUARY 23rd, 2025.
9:14:06AM >> SO MOVED.
9:14:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:10AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:11AM AYE.
9:14:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:12AM ALL RIGHT.
9:14:12AM 79 AND 80 TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED WITH NO DISCUSSION.
9:14:18AM CAN I GET MOTION?

9:14:19AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL
9:14:22AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:23AM AYE.
9:14:24AM AND THEN, FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER 81 IS A REQUEST FROM MR.
9:14:28AM ROGERO TO CONTINUE 81 TO DECEMBER 19, 2024.
9:14:32AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:14:33AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:14:34AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:37AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:38AM AYE.
9:14:38AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:39AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:14:44AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN --
9:14:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST ON 77, I DIDN'T DO A MEMO ON THIS, SO I
9:14:53AM WILL BE SPEAKING ON IT.
9:14:54AM I'LL GET INTO IT, BUT IT WILL BE MUCH MORE ABBREVIATED THAN
9:14:57AM I ANTICIPATED BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THEY
9:15:00AM ARE GOING TO NEED A COUPLE OF WEEKS ON SOME THINGS THEY ARE
9:15:02AM ALSO LOOKING AT.
9:15:03AM JUST FYI THAT 77, MY REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE INDEPENDENT
9:15:07AM REVIEW POST-MILTON JUST FYI.
9:15:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA
9:15:13AM AND THE ADDENDUM.
9:15:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

9:15:16AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:17AM AYE.
9:15:17AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:17AM ALL RIGHT.
9:15:18AM THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
9:15:19AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:15:21AM WE HAVE TWO.
9:15:22AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE OCTOBER POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
9:15:24AM WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
9:15:26AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:15:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL, HOW ARE YA?
9:15:41AM IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
9:15:43AM WE ARE HERE WITH CHIEF BERCAW HERE FROM TAMPA POLICE
9:15:47AM DEPARTMENT.
9:15:51AM WE'LL LET CHIEF BERCAW KICK THIS OFF.
9:15:55AM >>CHIEF BERCAW: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:15:58AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT
9:16:01AM OFFICER JOSEPH RAMOS HAS BEEN NAMED OUR OFFICER OF THE MONTH
9:16:05AM FOR OCTOBER, 2024.
9:16:06AM I'M SURE AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, WE ARE BEHIND A MONTH AND
9:16:10AM WE'RE DOING TWO BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED THE END OF
9:16:13AM SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER.
9:16:14AM ON SEPTEMBER 19, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO AN
9:16:18AM ARMED ROBBERY AT THE 29th STREET STORE.
9:16:21AM THE SUSPECT FLED THE SCENE AFTER DEMANDING AND RECEIVING

9:16:24AM CASH FROM THE STORE CLERK.
9:16:26AM OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO QUICKLY DETERMINE THAT THE SUSPECT WAS
9:16:30AM THE SAME INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBLE FOR A PREVIOUS ARMED ROBBERY
9:16:34AM AT THE EXACT SAME LOCATION JUST ABOUT A MONTH PRIOR.
9:16:38AM WHILE THE INVESTIGATION WAS ONGOING, OFFICER RAMOS WAS
9:16:41AM WORKING EXTRA DUTY ON HIS DAY OFF AT THE C. BLYTHE ANDREWS
9:16:46AM LIBRARY.
9:16:46AM HE OBSERVED A MAIL SUBJECT WALKING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT
9:16:49AM OF THE LIBRARY AND IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED HIM AS THE ROBBERY
9:16:53AM SUSPECT.
9:16:54AM HE QUICKLY BROADCASTED THIS INFORMATION TO ALL ON-DUTY
9:16:59AM OFFICERS, LEADING TO A COORDINATED EFFORT TO APPREHEND THE
9:17:03AM SUSPECT.
9:17:03AM WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF OUR AIR SERVICE, OUR K9 PATROL AND
9:17:08AM OUR FUGITIVE APPREHENSION TASK FORCE, OFFICERS SURROUNDED
9:17:14AM THE RESIDENCE WHERE THE SUBJECT WAS LOCATED.
9:17:16AM AFTER A BRIEF STANDOFF, THE SUSPECT SURRENDERED AND WAS
9:17:20AM TAKEN INTO CUSTODY WITHOUT INCIDENT.
9:17:22AM DURING SUBSEQUENT INTERVIEWS, THE SUSPECT WAS LINKED TO FOUR
9:17:26AM ADDITIONAL ARMED ROBBERIES.
9:17:27AM HE ALSO PROVIDED INFORMATION LEADING TO THE RECOVERY OF
9:17:30AM STOLEN CASH, A FIREARM, AND OTHER EVIDENCE.
9:17:32AM OFFICER RAMOS' QUICK THINKING, KEEN OBSERVATION, AND
9:17:40AM DECISIVE ACTIONS WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE SWIFT ARREST OF A
9:17:44AM DANGEROUS CRIMINAL.

9:17:45AM HIS DEDICATION TO DUTY, HIS COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND
9:17:48AM HELPING KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE ARE THE REASONS THAT HE'S
9:17:52AM BEING NAMED AND RECOGNIZED AS OUR OCTOBER OFFICER OF THE
9:17:56AM MONTH.
9:17:57AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:17:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:18:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: OFFICER, BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU, WE HAVE
9:18:10AM PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU THEIR
9:18:12AM PERSONAL THANKS.
9:18:14AM >> BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA.
9:18:23AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS PLAQUE TO YOU FOR A JOB WELL
9:18:26AM DONE.
9:18:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:18:39AM GRACE GONZALEZ.
9:18:39AM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
9:18:43AM RESTAURANTS.
9:18:45AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY
9:18:47AM OF TAMPA AND YOUR SACRIFICES THAT YOU MAKE.
9:18:49AM PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELVES AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, ULELE.
9:18:53AM HAVE A NIGHT OFF AND RELAX.
9:18:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:18:59AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:03AM >> HI, OFFICER.
9:19:05AM CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR AWARD AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
9:19:07AM SERVICE.

9:19:08AM LORI OSBORNE.
9:19:09AM I'M FROM THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:19:11AM ON BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO A
9:19:15AM PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
9:19:16AM AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:19:18AM WE ARE SO PROUD OF YOU.
9:19:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING OFFICER RAMOS.
9:19:27AM JILL WITECKI WITH TAMPA THEATRE.
9:19:30AM WE WANT TO INVITE BOTH OF YOU, AFTER DINNER, COME SEE A --
9:19:34AM [INAUDIBLE]
9:19:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:40AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:19:42AM CONGRATULATIONS ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:19:44AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO IN THE CITY TO KEEP US
9:19:47AM SAFE.
9:19:47AM LIKE I SAY ALL THE TIME, I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
9:19:52AM GUYS THAT PUTS ON THAT UNIFORM.
9:19:53AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:19:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:20:03AM MIRANDA WITH STEPP'S TOWING ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND THE
9:20:07AM ENTIRE STEPP'S TEAM WE THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
9:20:11AM PROTECTING US, KEEPING US SAFE.
9:20:13AM PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.

9:20:15AM THANK YOU.
9:20:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:19AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:20:21AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY AND
9:20:24AM KEEPING US SAFE.
9:20:24AM THE STRAZ CENTER WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO ENJOY AN EVENING AT
9:20:27AM THE STRAZ.
9:20:28AM ENJOY.
9:20:29AM THANK YOU.
9:20:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:20:34AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:20:35AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA WHERE I SERVE ON THE BOARD.
9:20:38AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:20:40AM >> WE WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND THANK YOU.
9:20:42AM WE'RE GIVING YOU AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND
9:20:45AM YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY.
9:20:48AM YOUR QUICK THINKING AND JUDGMENT IS MUCH APPRECIATED.
9:20:51AM I COULDN'T DO WHAT YOU DO, BUT I DID GO TO THE POLICE
9:20:55AM ACADEMY, THE CITIZENS.
9:20:55AM I KNOW YOU HAVE TO MAKE LIKE SPLIT-SECOND JUDGMENTS AND MINE
9:20:59AM WERE ALL WRONG.
9:21:00AM I REALLY COMMEND YOUR STORY AND MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICES AND
9:21:04AM KEEPING US SAFE AND SOLVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CRIME.
9:21:06AM THAT'S AWESOME.

9:21:07AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:21:08AM >> YOUR MEMBERSHIP WILL INCLUDE ADDITION TO CHRISTMAS IN THE
9:21:11AM WILD WHERE YOU WILL SEE AFRICAN BLACK-FOOTED PENGUINS.
9:21:16AM INTERESTING FACT, THEY POOP EVERY 15 MINUTES, SO THEY DON'T
9:21:19AM MAKE GOOD PETS.
9:21:20AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:21:20AM ENJOY.
9:21:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:27AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND MAKING TAMPA A
9:21:31AM SAFER PLACE FOR ALL FAMILIES.
9:21:32AM CASPERS FAMILY AND OXFORD COMMONS, WANT TO OFFER YOU A
9:21:37AM CERTIFICATE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY OXFORD
9:21:40AM EXCHANGE, PREDALINA, ANY ONE OF OUR RESTAURANTS, ALSO THE
9:21:46AM BOOKSTORE AND RETAIL SHOP AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.
9:21:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:21:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:21:53AM >> ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER BRIAN
9:21:56AM FORD WHO COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY AND THE ENTIRE BUCS
9:22:00AM ORGANIZATION, PRIVILEGED TO PRESENT WITH YOU A GAME BALL FOR
9:22:02AM YOUR SERVICE.
9:22:04AM >> THANK YOU.
9:22:04AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:22:10AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:22:10AM I SHARED A SEAT WITH YOU BACK THERE.
9:22:13AM STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT

9:22:18AM FOLKS WHO WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOUR DEDICATION AND HONOR
9:22:22AM YOU.
9:22:23AM ONE IS THE GREEK RESTAURANT ON HOWARD.
9:22:26AM THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
9:22:28AM CERTIFICATE.
9:22:29AM ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE FOR LUNCH, BRUNCH, WHENEVER YOU
9:22:33AM WISH.
9:22:34AM ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, WE'RE PROVIDING
9:22:37AM YOU WITH A $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:22:39AM ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:22:41AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, PROVIDING YOU WITH
9:22:45AM A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $50 SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER
9:22:49AM THERE.
9:22:49AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO ON HARBOUR ISLAND, HUNDRED
9:22:56AM DOLLAR GIFT CERTIFICATE, LUNCH, OR DINNER.
9:22:59AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, HUNDRED DOLLAR GIFT
9:23:02AM CERTIFICATE.
9:23:03AM ENJOY YOURSELF.
9:23:03AM WE CERTAINLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND KEEPING YOUR
9:23:07AM EYES AND EARS OPEN FOR ISSUES THAT COME OUT IN THE
9:23:10AM COMMUNITY.
9:23:11AM CERTAINLY, OUR HATS ARE OFF TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
9:23:14AM ALL OF THEIR EFFORTS DURING THE HURRICANES.
9:23:17AM APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
9:23:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:23:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF TAMPA,
9:23:27AM OFFICER RAMOS, IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE TO HONOR YOU, SIR,
9:23:30AM WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:23:31AM WE THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND ALL OF YOUR LOVED ONES FOR
9:23:35AM EVERYTHING YOU DO.
9:23:36AM YOU'RE WONDERFUL.
9:23:36AM GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.
9:23:37AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:43AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.
9:23:47AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:23:48AM I'VE BEEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR 13 YEARS AND MY PASSION TO
9:23:53AM KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOP TIER AND WILL
9:23:57AM CONTINUE THAT WAY.
9:23:59AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:23:59AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:24:00AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:24:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:24:09AM CONGRATULATIONS, AND THANK YOU FOR THE SACRIFICE THAT YOU
9:24:11AM MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THAT UNIFORM.
9:24:12AM AND THANK YOU TO YOUR FAMILY AS WELL FOR THEIR SACRIFICES.
9:24:16AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:24:16AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:24:16AM COUNCILMAN, YOU HAVE ANOTHER POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH,
9:24:26AM THIS TIME FOR NOVEMBER.

9:24:27AM GO AHEAD.
9:24:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:24:28AM NOW MOVING FORWARD TO NOVEMBER, WE HAVE SERGEANT MATTHEW
9:24:31AM ZALANSKY WHO WILL BE WITH US.
9:24:35AM TO INTRODUCE THIS WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL, WE ALSO HAVE CHIEF
9:24:38AM BERCAW.
9:24:50AM >>CHIEF BERCAW: THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROUD TO
9:24:52AM ANNOUNCE SERGEANT MATT ZALANSKY BEING NAMED AS OUR OFFICER
9:24:56AM OF THE MONTH FOR NOVEMBER 2024.
9:24:57AM MATT IS CURRENTLY ASSIGNED AS A SUPERVISOR IN THE DISTRICT 2
9:25:02AM STREET ANTICRIME SQUAD.
9:25:04AM SERGEANT ZALANSKY OVERSEES A TEAM OF 8 OFFICERS AND A
9:25:09AM CORPORAL.
9:25:10AM IN ADDITION TO BEING A STAFF SERGEANT, HE ALSO SERVES AS
9:25:14AM ASSISTANT COMMANDER TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT S.W.A.T.
9:25:16AM TEAM.
9:25:18AM DESPITE SIGNIFICANT ADMINISTRATIVE BURDENS AND CONSTANT
9:25:22AM SCHEDULING ADJUSTMENTS REQUIRED TO MANAGE A SACK SQUAD,
9:25:26AM SERGEANT ZALANSKY REMAINS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE DISTRICT
9:25:30AM INITIATIVES AND NARCOTIC INVESTIGATIONS.
9:25:32AM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS, SERGEANT ZALANSKY'S SQUAD HAS
9:25:36AM ACHIEVED REMARKABLE RESULTS, EXECUTING FOUR SEARCH WARRANTS
9:25:40AM THAT LED TO THE SEIZURE OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF NARCOTICS
9:25:45AM -- AND THERE IS A PLETHORA LIST, FENTANYL, METH, OXY, YOU
9:25:53AM NAME IT.

9:25:54AM IN ADDITION, SQUAD CONFISCATED 15 FIREARMS AND NEARLY
9:25:58AM $50,000 IN CASH.
9:26:00AM THROUGH DILIGENT EFFORTS, THE SQUAD MADE 157 ARRESTS AND
9:26:05AM RECOVERED 35 FIREARMS THIS YEAR.
9:26:08AM SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCING THE VIOLENT CRIME IN THE ENTIRE CITY
9:26:13AM AND ESPECIALLY IN AND AROUND THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
9:26:17AM NEBRASKA CORRIDOR.
9:26:18AM THANKS TO HIS LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, HARD WORK, SERGEANT
9:26:21AM ZALANSKY HAS PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN ENSURING THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:26:24AM IS A SAFER PLACE FOR EVERYONE.
9:26:26AM AND FOR THOSE REASONS, HE'S BEING NAMED OUR OFFICER OF THE
9:26:30AM MONTH FOR NOVEMBER.
9:26:31AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:26:32AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE HONOR YOU, WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE
9:26:41AM COMMUNITY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SHARE THEIR
9:26:43AM APPRECIATION.
9:26:45AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
9:26:46AM SOMEBODY THAT'S WORKED WITH SERGEANT ZALANSKY ON ONE OF
9:26:48AM THESE SQUADS, I CAN TELL YOU IT'S WELL DESERVED.
9:26:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:57AM >> GRACE GONZALEZ HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY.
9:27:01AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA
9:27:04AM THEATRE.
9:27:05AM PLEASE ENJOY AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO EXPLORE THE TAMPA

9:27:08AM THEATRE'S FULL OFFERINGS WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:27:11AM AND PLEASE ENJOY YOURSELF AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT, ULELE.
9:27:15AM I KNOW -- CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT
9:27:26AM YOU DO.
9:27:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:27:32AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:27:35AM >> I'M MARK HANEY.
9:27:37AM >> BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA, I CAN TELL HE IS AN ANIMAL LOVER.
9:27:41AM HE'LL LOVE THIS.
9:27:42AM ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO.
9:27:45AM MY FAVORITE IS THE MANATEE.
9:27:46AM YOU HAVE TO CHECK OUT THE MANATEE.
9:27:48AM ALL ANIMALS ARE WONDERFUL.
9:27:49AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:27:51AM THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:27:53AM YOU ARE ALL AWESOME.
9:27:55AM REALLY GLAD THE GUNS AND DRUGS ARE OFF THE STREET.
9:27:57AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE.
9:28:01AM >> WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SEA TURTLE HERE.
9:28:05AM WE -- A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO --
9:28:11AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:28:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:28:16AM I'M WITH STEPP'S TOWING.
9:28:19AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, WE APPRECIATE

9:28:23AM YOU.
9:28:24AM PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.
9:28:26AM THANK YOU.
9:28:27AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:28:28AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:32AM >> BEHALF OF THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA, WE SAY CONGRATULATIONS
9:28:34AM TO YOU AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR YOU AND
9:28:37AM YOUR FAMILY ARE SAFER BECAUSE OF YOU.
9:28:41AM PLEASE ENJOY A PERFORMANCE FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY THIS
9:28:44AM SEASON.
9:28:44AM AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:28:46AM >> THANK YOU.
9:28:46AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:51AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:28:53AM ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU
9:28:56AM DO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:28:57AM >> THANK YOU.
9:28:58AM >> AGAIN, I APPRECIATE AND RESPECT -- [INAUDIBLE]
9:29:03AM FREE MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
9:29:14AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:18AM >> THANK YOU FOR KEEPING TAMPA SAFE AND MAKING IT SAFER FOR
9:29:22AM FAMILIES.
9:29:23AM BEHALF OF CASPER FAMILY, PRESENT WITH YOU A GIFT CERTIFICATE
9:29:26AM FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY OXFORD EXCHANGE, ANY ONE OF
9:29:31AM OUR RESTAURANTS AND THE BOOKSTORE AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.

9:29:34AM THANKS VERY MUCH.
9:29:35AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:29:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:39AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:29:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR KEEPING US SAFE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP TO
9:29:44AM BE ABLE TO TAKE YOUR TEAM AND GO UP THERE AND GET THOSE
9:29:47AM DRUGS OFF THE STREETS.
9:29:48AM I KNOW IT'S A BIG PROBLEM OUT THERE.
9:29:52AM APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR WORK.
9:29:53AM THANK YOU.
9:29:54AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:29:58AM >> CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR THE BUCS.
9:30:02AM AS 26.5-YEAR RETIREE, I WORKED PRIMARILY IN NARCOTICS AND
9:30:06AM MONEY LAUNDERING MY ENTIRE CAREER.
9:30:08AM I TRULY APPRECIATE AND HUMBLED TO PRESENT YOU WITH A GAME
9:30:12AM BALL FROM THE TAMPA BAY BUCS ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS AND
9:30:16AM CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER BRIAN FORD.
9:30:21AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
9:30:22AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:24AM >> YOU HAVE A CHEERLEADER WITH YOU.
9:30:26AM STAND UP HERE WITH ME?
9:30:39AM >> FOOTBALL.
9:30:43AM >> STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
9:30:46AM FOLKS.
9:30:47AM WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH GIFT CERTIFICATES.

9:30:50AM GREEK RESTAURANT.
9:30:51AM ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
9:30:52AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, ENJOY YOURSELF
9:30:56AM THERE, BREAKFAST, LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:30:59AM JACKSON'S BISTRO, HARBOUR ISLAND, LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:31:03AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK VILLAGE, LUNCH OR DINNER.
9:31:07AM AND THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
9:31:09AM I ALWAYS SAY THIS BUT THE CHIEF WANTS TO GO WITH YOU WHEN
9:31:13AM YOU GO TO THE YUMMY HOUSE.
9:31:14AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:31:17AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:31:18AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:31:19AM >> THANK YOU, BUDDY.
9:31:20AM APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.
9:31:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: SIR, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL CITY OF
9:31:30AM TAMPA, IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE AND HONOR TO GIVE YOU, SIR,
9:31:34AM THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:31:35AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:31:36AM IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING --
9:31:40AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:31:42AM >> I THINK THIS AWARD IS A PRODUCT OF MY ENVIRONMENT AND THE
9:31:45AM TEAM THAT I HAVE AROUND ME, WHETHER IT'S MY CHAIN OF STAFF
9:31:49AM OR THE OFFICERS I HAVE BELOW ME.
9:31:52AM I REALLY FEEL IT'S JUST A TEAM EFFORT.

9:31:55AM IT'S A PRODUCT OF THAT.
9:31:57AM I COULDN'T DO IT BY MYSELF AND MY STAFF, MY MAJOR, MY
9:32:01AM PREVIOUS MAJOR, OWEN RICHARDSON, THEY ALL SUPPORT ME THE
9:32:05AM BEST THEY CAN, GIVE ME THE FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO CONDUCT OUR
9:32:10AM INVESTIGATIONS AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE NEED AND THE
9:32:11AM RESOURCES THAT WE NEED AND GIVING ME THE RESOURCES TO BE
9:32:14AM ABLE TO PICK MY OFFICERS.
9:32:16AM WE'RE VERY DIVERSE IN THEIR INVESTIGATIVE SKILLS AND THEY
9:32:20AM ALL SUPPORT EACH OTHER.
9:32:21AM ALL THAT COMING TOGETHER IS WHY I WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE THIS.
9:32:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:32:35AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR FAMILY'S
9:32:37AM SACRIFICE, EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THE UNIFORM AND THE WORK
9:32:40AM YOU DO TO KEEP US SAFE.
9:32:42AM WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:32:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR SON DID SOMETHING THAT NOBODY IS EVER
9:32:46AM ABLE TO DO AND THAT'S UPSTAGE LUIS VIERA.
9:32:49AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:32:50AM HOW ADORABLE.
9:32:52AM IS HE FOUR, THREE?
9:32:54AM >> THREE.
9:32:54AM HE WILL BE THREE NEXT MONTH.
9:32:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CUTE FAMILY.
9:32:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.

9:32:59AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:33:02AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:33:06AM AND THEN FOR OUR LAST COMMENDATION TODAY, AND WILL IS -- GO
9:33:14AM AHEAD.
9:33:15AM FOR OUR LAST COMMENDATION, WE HAVE CHIEF TRIPP.
9:33:21AM CAN WE WAIT 15 SECONDS?
9:33:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:33:27AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:33:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:33:54AM NEXT WE DO OUR TAMPA FIGHTER OF THE QUARTER.
9:33:57AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT THIS WONDERFUL FIREFIGHTER, LIEUTENANT
9:34:00AM TIM BURNHAM.
9:34:03AM CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.
9:34:06AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:34:07AM BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:34:10AM THIS MORNING I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE RESCUE LIEUTENANT TIM
9:34:13AM BURNHAM FOR FIREFIGHTER OF THE FOURTH QUARTER.
9:34:16AM JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MR. BURNHAM, FIVE-YEAR
9:34:20AM VETERAN WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:34:22AM DIVERSIFIED EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING AS A FIREFIGHTER,
9:34:26AM PARAMEDIC AND RISEN THROUGH THE RANKS TO LIEUTENANT AND
9:34:28AM CURRENTLY HOLDS POSITION OF QUALITY ASSURANCE ASSISTANT.
9:34:30AM LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS CURRENTLY HOLDING THE FOLLOWING
9:34:38AM CERTIFICATION, PARAMEDIC FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, CRITICAL

9:34:40AM CARE TRANSPORT PARAMEDIC, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER, BIKE
9:34:45AM MEDIC, PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM MEDIC, ADVANCED CARDIAC LIFE
9:34:50AM SUPPORT, PEDIATRIC ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT INSTRUCTOR AND FIRE
9:34:55AM INSTRUCTOR 2, FIRE OFFICER ONE AND FIRE OFFICER TWO.
9:35:01AM DESPITE HAVING AN IMPRESSIVE CAREER WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE,
9:35:04AM HIS ABILITY TO MENTOR OTHERS AND MAKE -- COMES FROM THE
9:35:08AM FORMAL EDUCATION AND DIVERSIFIED EXPERIENCE IN EMERGENCY
9:35:11AM SERVICES.
9:35:11AM HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM
9:35:14AM FLORIDA STATE UNIVERSITY AND BACHELOR OF SCIENCE IN
9:35:17AM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND FIRE ADMINISTRATION FROM THE
9:35:20AM UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
9:35:21AM HE ALSO HAS ASSOCIATES OF SCIENCE DEGREE IN FIRE SCIENCE
9:35:25AM FROM ST. PETE COLLEGE.
9:35:27AM TOTAL OF 14 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL
9:35:29AM SERVICES AND WORKED AS A PARAMEDIC DRIVER AND ACTING CAPTAIN
9:35:33AM FOR PINELLAS SUNCOAST FIRE AND RESCUE.
9:35:36AM LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS RESPECTED BY ALL AND HAS A COMPETENT
9:35:43AM AND PASSIONATE -- COMPETENT AND COMPASSIONATE OFFICER WHO
9:35:48AM LEADS BY EXAMPLE CONSISTENTLY LOOKING TO IMPROVE HIMSELF AND
9:35:51AM HIS PERSONNEL AND, OF COURSE, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:35:54AM AS VIEWED THROUGH HIS EDUCATION AND WORK EXPERIENCE,
9:35:57AM LIEUTENANT BURNHAM LIVES TO EDUCATE OTHERS.
9:36:00AM HE'S BEEN ASSIGNED AS A QUALITY ASSURANCE ASSISTANT AND HAS
9:36:05AM BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN ASSISTING WITH REVISING THE

9:36:08AM IMPLEMENTATION OF ADVANCED MEDICAL PROTOCOLS AS WELL AS
9:36:11AM CREATING DATA DRIVEN TRAINING THROUGH TRENDS OF ANALYSIS
9:36:14AM FROM QUALITY ASSURANCE PERSPECTIVE IMPROVING THE CARE OF OUR
9:36:18AM DEPARTMENT, THAT OUR DEPARTMENT PROVIDES TO THE CITIZENS OF
9:36:21AM TAMPA.
9:36:22AM WHILE HIS ACHIEVEMENT ON DUTY ARE COMMENDABLE, LIEUTENANT
9:36:25AM BURNHAM VOLUNTARILY CONTRIBUTES HIS -- CONTRIBUTE TO MEMBERS
9:36:29AM AND COMMUNITY ARE UNMATCHED.
9:36:31AM THIS PAST YEAR HE TOOK HIS EXPERIENCE AS A FIELD TRAINING
9:36:34AM OFFICER AND AS FAR AS BEING PART OF THE MEDICAL PROTOCOL FOR
9:36:38AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND ASSISTS WITH REVISING THE PARAMEDIC
9:36:44AM DEVELOPMENT AND ASSESSMENT PROGRAM.
9:36:45AM THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:36:47AM OF COURSE, HE HAS TAKEN THE POSITION AS LEAD INSTRUCTOR AND
9:36:53AM REDUCING THE TIMELINE WHEN WE ARE TRAINING OUR PERSONNEL TO
9:36:57AM BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
9:36:59AM WITH THIS, HE HAS ASSISTED WITH TRAINING OVER ALMOST A
9:37:03AM HUNDRED INDIVIDUALS IN THE LAST YEAR.
9:37:05AM HE ALSO VOLUNTEERS TIME TO ORGANIZATIONS AND BENEFITS OUR
9:37:08AM COMMUNITY.
9:37:10AM FOR EXAMPLE, HE DOES THE FIGHT FOR AIR STAIR CLIMB.
9:37:15AM ASSISTS DURING HOLIDAYS WITH TAMPA BAY FEEDING INDIVIDUALS
9:37:19AM IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO AN ELECTED MEMBER OF THE CIVIL
9:37:22AM SERVICE BOARD FOR THE CITY OF CLEARWATER.
9:37:24AM LIEUTENANT BURNHAM IS A HUSBAND AS WELL AS A FATHER AND, OF

9:37:29AM COURSE, WE KNOW HIM TO BE A MAN DEDICATED TO IMPROVING --
9:37:33AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND OUR MEMBERS.
9:37:35AM A NATURAL LEADER WHO INFLUENCES AND ENCOURAGES OTHERS TO DO
9:37:38AM THE SAME.
9:37:39AM THE LEVEL OF DEDICATION HE HAS FOR THE PROFESSION AS WELL AS
9:37:43AM OUR ORGANIZATION.
9:37:44AM FOR THAT REASON WE NOMINATE LIEUTENANT BURNHAM AS THE
9:37:47AM FIREFIGHTER OF THE FOURTH QUARTER.
9:37:49AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:37:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE WHO WANT
9:38:01AM TO SHARE THEIR APPRECIATION.
9:38:06AM >> GRACE GONZALEZ.
9:38:07AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE STATE OF
9:38:10AM FLORIDA, TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:38:11AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
9:38:12AM THANK YOU FOR CARING.
9:38:14AM ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA THEATRE, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS
9:38:16AM ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY ALL THE
9:38:20AM TAMPA THEATRE HAS TO OFFER.
9:38:21AM ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND 1905 FAMILY OF
9:38:24AM RESTAURANTS, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS GIFT CARD TO YOU
9:38:28AM AND YOUR FAMILY.
9:38:29AM ENJOY RELAXATION AND NIGHT OFF.
9:38:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.
9:38:34AM [ APPLAUSE ]

9:38:38AM >> LIEUTENANT, CONGRATULATIONS.
9:38:40AM RECOGNIZE AND PROVIDE YOU THIS HUMBLE PLAQUE FROM THE
9:38:44AM FIREFIGHTERS UNION MADE BY ONE OF OUR FELLOW FIREFIGHTERS.
9:38:48AM CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:38:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:38:53AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
9:38:54AM HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO TAMPA.
9:38:56AM >> MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:38:58AM >> I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH YOUR CREDENTIALS.
9:39:00AM YOU HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE BECAUSE YOU ARE SO YOUNG.
9:39:02AM AWESOME WHAT YOU HAVE ACHIEVED.
9:39:04AM THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE COMMUNITY.
9:39:05AM WE PURCHASED AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND
9:39:08AM YOUR FAMILY.
9:39:09AM THANK YOU TO YOUR WHOLE FAMILY FOR SUPPORTING YOU.
9:39:11AM I KNOW WHAT THAT TAKES.
9:39:13AM CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
9:39:15AM >> WE'VE GOT, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERSHIP, WE HAVE A -- MANY
9:39:22AM THINK IT IS RELATED TO ZEBRA, BUT THEY ARE RELATED TO
9:39:26AM GIRAFFES.
9:39:27AM THEY ARE THE ONE OF THE MOST ENDANGERED AND RARE ANIMALS IN
9:39:33AM THE WORLD.
9:39:33AM SORT OF LIKE YOU.
9:39:34AM RARE, NOT ENDANGERED.

9:39:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:38AM >> LORI OSBORNE WITH THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
9:39:44AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
9:39:46AM THIS AWARD.
9:39:47AM WE WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WITH A
9:39:49AM PERFORMANCE THIS SEASON.
9:39:51AM AGAIN, THANK YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:39:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:39:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR TAMPA, FOR CLEARWATER, FOR
9:40:00AM THE WHOLE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
9:40:02AM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:40:03AM ON BEHALF OF CASPERS FAMILY, PRESENT YOU WITH A GIFT
9:40:06AM CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY WITH YOUR FAMILY AT ANY OF OUR
9:40:09AM RESTAURANTS, THE LIBRARY IN ST. PETE, OXFORD EXCHANGE,
9:40:13AM PREDALINA AND ALSO THE BOOKSTORE AT OXFORD EXCHANGE.
9:40:18AM THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR DOING THIS ALL THE TIME.
9:40:20AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:23AM >> STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS.
9:40:25AM EXTREMELY IMPRESSED WITH THAT LIST OF CREDENTIALS YOU HAVE
9:40:29AM DONE.
9:40:30AM IT IS EXHAUSTING JUST TO HEAR.
9:40:32AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO IT.
9:40:33AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:40:33AM BUT CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS KEEPING US
9:40:38AM SAFE.

9:40:39AM I DEFINITELY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOU AROUND IN A CRISIS.
9:40:42AM ENJOY A NIGHT AT THE STRAZ.
9:40:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:48AM >> MIRANDA WITH STEPP'S TOWING.
9:40:50AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND ENTIRE STEPP'S TOWING AND HEAVY
9:40:55AM TRANSPORT TEAM, THANK YOU.
9:40:56AM PLEASE ENJOY DINNER ON US.
9:40:58AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:40:58AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:01AM >> BILL CURRIE FORD.
9:41:02AM GIVE YOU THIS GIFT CARD.
9:41:04AM THERE IS A LETTER IN THERE.
9:41:07AM FREE OIL CHANGE, MAINTENANCE ON YOUR PERSONAL VEHICLE.
9:41:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:41:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:21AM >> CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER FOR THE TAMPA BAY BUCS.
9:41:23AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZERS AND FIRE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER
9:41:27AM BRIAN FORD ALSO A FLORIDA STATE ALUMNI, I KNOW HE WOULD LIKE
9:41:31AM ME TO MENTION THAT AND THE ENTIRE BUCCANEER ORGANIZATION, WE
9:41:34AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:41:35AM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP AND EVERYTHING YOU DO TO
9:41:38AM KEEP US SAFE.
9:41:40AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:45AM >> GETTING BUSY UP HERE.

9:41:46AM ONE OF THESE GUYS WANT TO COME UP HERE WITH ME?
9:41:48AM NO.
9:41:52AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:41:53AM STEVE MICHELINI, HERE ON BEHALF OF A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
9:41:57AM FOLKS.
9:41:58AM GUESS WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO LET YOUR MOM AND DAD AND MAYBE
9:42:01AM YOU GO TO THE YUMMY HOUSE.
9:42:02AM YOU LIKE THAT?
9:42:05AM HOW ABOUT GREEK FOOD?
9:42:08AM DO YOU LIKE GREEK FOOD?
9:42:10AM DON'T KNOW.
9:42:11AM WELL, YOU GET TO GO, MAYBE.
9:42:16AM YOU CAN TRY IT OUT, RIGHT?
9:42:17AM HOW ABOUT MEAT MARKET.
9:42:20AM THAT'S REALLY FOR MOM AND DAD.
9:42:22AM THAT'S A SPECIAL NIGHT FOR THEM, OKAY.
9:42:25AM JACKSON'S BISTRO.
9:42:27AM THAT'S ANOTHER SPECIAL TIME FOR MOM AND DAD.
9:42:29AM DAILY EATS, BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER, SCRAMBLED EGGS,
9:42:35AM PANCAKES, ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
9:42:38AM YOU CAN GO ON THAT ONE.
9:42:39AM THAT WOULD BE A GOOD ONE FOR YOU.
9:42:41AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, MENTIONED THAT ALREADY.
9:42:44AM REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU AND CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR
9:42:46AM ACHIEVEMENTS.

9:42:48AM WANT TO THANK ALL THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR ALL OF THEIR
9:42:52AM DEDICATED SERVICE DURING THE RECENT STORMS AND MAKING OUR
9:42:55AM COMMUNITY SAFE.
9:42:56AM THAT WAS AN EXTRAORDINARY EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE
9:42:58AM DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:43:02AM WE ALL APPRECIATE IT.
9:43:04AM WE DON'T SEE YOU ALL THE TIME, BUT DURING TIMES OF NEED YOU
9:43:06AM ARE THERE AND WE APPRECIATE THAT 24/7.
9:43:09AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:43:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO, LIEUTENANT, ON BEHALF OF A GRATEFUL CITY,
9:43:20AM IT IS OUR GREAT PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
9:43:22AM COMMENDATION.
9:43:23AM I WAS TELLING YOU, WHISPERED TO YOU BEFORE, YOU HAVE A GOOD
9:43:26AM RESUM TO RUN FOR OFFICE.
9:43:28AM THAT IS A COMPLIMENT.
9:43:29AM THANK YOU.
9:43:30AM GOD BLESS YOU.
9:43:31AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:35AM >> I'LL KEEP IT VERY BRIEF.
9:43:37AM IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE CITY OF TAMPA AND AN HONOR TO
9:43:39AM BE RECOGNIZED BUT WE HAVE A RANK AND FILE THAT SHOULD BE
9:43:41AM RECOGNIZED EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:43:43AM A FEW HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN ON, WE HAVE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY
9:43:47AM OUT IN THE COMMUNITY TO DO GOOD.

9:43:50AM I'M HAPPY TO BE PART OF THAT RANK AND FILE.
9:43:53AM THANK YOU.
9:43:56AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
9:44:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:44:03AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR SACRIFICE, YOUR TEAM, EVERYBODY
9:44:06AM THAT'S HERE IN THIS ROOM.
9:44:08AM THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE FOR US TO KEEP US SAFE EACH AND EVERY
9:44:11AM DAY AND, OF COURSE, YOUR FAMILY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
9:44:14AM THE SACRIFICE THAT THEY MAKE EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THE
9:44:16AM UNIFORM AND GO TO WORK.
9:44:17AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:44:18AM WELL DESERVED, AMAZING REVENUE.
9:44:21AM WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU GIVE TO THIS ENTIRE
9:44:23AM COMMUNITY.
9:44:23AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:44:25AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:44:25AM WE'LL TAKE A FEW SECONDS TO CLEAR OUT THE ROOM HERE.
9:44:39AM NEXT UP, CHUCK CARDEN TO PROVIDE A FIVE-MINUTE PRESENTATION
9:45:41AM AND PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF TAMPA BAY WATER AND MAJOR
9:45:45AM INITIATIVES.
9:45:45AM THERE IS ALSO A PowerPoint PRESENTATION ATTACHED TO THIS.
9:45:49AM COUNCILMAN VIERA -- MIRANDA, THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
9:45:52AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO KICK IT OFF?
9:45:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'VE HAD A RUN-IN WITH MR. BENNETT ON A

9:46:02AM FRIENDLY BASIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND HE WAS A GREAT
9:46:05AM ATHLETE.
9:46:05AM LEFT HERE, FAMILY, FANTASTIC BALLPLAYERS.
9:46:11AM GARDEN.
9:46:12AM NOT ONLY -- CARDEN, NOT ONLY A GREAT LEADER AT TAMPA BAY
9:46:15AM WATER, HE WAS ALSO BASEBALL TEAM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
9:46:19AM I THINK HE PLAYED SECOND BASE.
9:46:23AM HE IS A GREAT GUY AND KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING WITH WATER.
9:46:27AM IT'S A COMMITTEE OF SIX GOVERNMENTS AND THREE -- WELL, ALL
9:46:33AM -- PASCO, PINELLAS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA, NEW
9:46:38AM PORT RICHEY AND ST. PETERSBURG.
9:46:40AM HE CREATES ABOUT 200 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER A DAY UNDER
9:46:44AM HIS LEADERSHIP.
9:46:46AM THE ONLY ONE THAT PRODUCES WATER TO ANY DEGREE, OTHER THAN
9:46:50AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH PRODUCES ABOUT 82 MILLION GALLONS A
9:46:53AM DAY ON THE AVERAGE.
9:46:55AM HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.
9:46:56AM BOARD MEMBERS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING EXCEPT ONE.
9:46:59AM I WON'T MENTION WHO THAT WAS.
9:47:00AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE'S DONE TO KEEP THE PLACE RUNNING
9:47:06AM AS IT SHOULD BE.
9:47:07AM HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
9:47:09AM BEEN THERE MANY YEARS, BUT I THINK THREE OR FOUR YEARS I
9:47:13AM BELIEVE AS THE PERSON IN CHARGE.
9:47:14AM HE'S DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.

9:47:16AM CHUCK CARDEN FROM TAMPA BAY WATER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
9:47:20AM >> THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING.
9:47:21AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
9:47:24AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU PRETTY MUCH DID MY WHOLE
9:47:27AM PRESENTATION FOR ME.
9:47:27AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:47:29AM I DID WANT TO SPEND A FEW MOMENTS THIS MORNING TO UPDATE YOU
9:47:33AM ON SOME OF OUR RECENT ACTIVITIES AND THEN AT THE END, I'LL
9:47:37AM BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
9:47:39AM TAMPA BAY WATER'S MISSION IS VERY SIMPLE.
9:47:46AM IT IS TO PROVIDE RELIABLY CLEAN, SAFE DRINKING WATER TO THE
9:47:51AM TAMPA BAY REGION NOT ONLY NOW BUT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
9:47:56AM AS A QUICK OVERVIEW, WE WERE FORMED IN 1998 TO END WHAT
9:48:00AM YOU'VE HEARD I'M SURE THE DECADES-OLD WATER WARS.
9:48:05AM AND WE ALSO WERE MANDATED TO REDUCE GROUNDWATER PUMPING THAT
9:48:09AM AFFECTED THE ENVIRONMENT.
9:48:10AM WE ARE A NONPROFIT SPECIAL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA,
9:48:15AM AND WE SERVE MORE THAN 2.5 MILLION PEOPLE THROUGH OUR
9:48:19AM SIX-MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
9:48:20AM AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE ARE THE ONLY WATER UTILITY IN THE
9:48:25AM UNITED STATES THAT USES THREE SOURCES OF WATER THAT BLEND
9:48:28AM TOGETHER, AND THAT IS THE GROUNDWATER, SURFACE WATER, AND
9:48:32AM DESALINATED SEAWATER.
9:48:34AM WE HAVE 163 EMPLOYEES, AND WE CHARGE EACH OF THE MEMBER
9:48:38AM GOVERNMENTS THE SAME WHOLESALE RATE OF $2.62 PER THOUSAND

9:48:47AM GALLONS.
9:48:47AM TAMPA, AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, HAS A SELF-SUPPLY OF 82
9:48:51AM MILLION GALLONS A DAY, BUT THERE ARE TIMES IN THE PAST AND
9:48:54AM INTO THE FUTURE THEY BUY WATER FROM US.
9:48:56AM SO THIS COMING BUDGET YEAR WE JUST STARTED, WE HAVE
9:49:00AM BUDGETED, CITY OF TAMPA TO PURCHASE 4.1 MILLION GALLONS A
9:49:04AM DAY.
9:49:06AM TWO YEARS AGO IN '23, THE CITY PURCHASED ALMOST 5 MILLION
9:49:09AM GALLONS A DAY.
9:49:10AM AND THEN LAST YEAR, THE YEAR WE JUST ENDED, ALMOST 4 MILLION
9:49:15AM GALLONS A DAY.
9:49:16AM THE CREATION OF TAMPA BAY WATER I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE ENDED
9:49:22AM THE WATER WARS.
9:49:23AM SINCE MY LAST UPDATE, I WAS HERE LAST YEAR.
9:49:28AM I CAN'T QUITE REMEMBER WHEN BUT I GAVE YOU AN UPDATE LAST
9:49:31AM YEAR, WE ARE WORKING HARD TO ADDRESS NEW WATER QUALITY
9:49:35AM PARAMETERS.
9:49:37AM WE ARE MEETING THE REGION'S SHORT-TERM WATER NEEDS, BUT NOT
9:49:40AM ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO THE LONGER TERM GROWTH NEEDS.
9:49:46AM AND, OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE REGION HAS HAD SOME
9:49:52AM WEATHER, FEW STORMS RECENTLY.
9:49:54AM I KNOW THAT YOU AND ALL THE OTHER MEMBER GOVERNMENTS
9:49:56AM CONTINUE TO RECOVER FROM THE BACK-TO-BACK HURRICANES THAT
9:49:58AM HIT OUR REGION.
9:49:59AM I'M VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE REGIONAL DRINKING WATER

9:50:04AM SYSTEM WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE PROVIDING WATER TO ALL OF THE
9:50:07AM MEMBER GOVERNMENTS THROUGHOUT BOTH STORMS, DESPITE THE
9:50:12AM WIDESPREAD REGIONAL POWER OUTAGES, WIND AND FLOOD DAMAGES.
9:50:16AM I ALSO KNOW THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA STAFF WORKED VERY HARD
9:50:20AM THROUGHOUT THE STORMS TO ENSURE THE CONTINUED DELIVERY OF
9:50:24AM WATER TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.
9:50:25AM WE COORDINATED WITH YOUR STAFF THROUGHOUT BOTH EVENTS VERY
9:50:29AM WELL AND THE COMMUNICATION WAS VERY DONE WELL.
9:50:33AM THIS GRAPH REPRESENTS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE
9:50:36AM DELIVERED IN THE WATER YEAR 2023 VERSUS WATER YEAR 2024.
9:50:43AM AS YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU COULD QUESTION THAT ALMOST THE SAME
9:50:49AM AMOUNT OF WATER FOR BOTH YEARS AND YOU'D SAY HOW CAN THAT BE
9:50:52AM WITH ALL THE NEW GROWTH AND THE DROUGHT WE HAD THAT STARTED
9:50:56AM ABOUT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
9:50:57AM THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT ISSUED A
9:51:01AM ONE-DAY-A-WEEK WATER RESTRICTION LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS A
9:51:06AM TREMENDOUS HELP IN KEEPING DEMANDS DOWN AND ALLOWING US TO
9:51:10AM REDUCE OUR USE OF 15.5 BILLION GALLON RESERVOIR.
9:51:13AM WE USE THAT RESERVOIR AS OUR WATER SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
9:51:18AM IT WAS GETTING LOWER AND LOWER, SO THE WATER RESTRICTIONS
9:51:21AM AND WITH EVERYONE'S HELP, IT MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THE
9:51:25AM DROUGHT.
9:51:25AM SPEAKING OF THE RESERVOIR, YOU SEE A PICTURE OF IT ON THE
9:51:30AM RIGHT.
9:51:31AM IT CURRENTLY IS AT TOP FULL CAPACITY OF 15.5 BILLION

9:51:35AM GALLONS.
9:51:36AM THAT'S IMPORTANT WHEN I SAY THAT TO YOU.
9:51:39AM WE TRY TO GET IT FULL BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER 30th OF
9:51:43AM EVERY YEAR.
9:51:44AM ON JULY 14, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT WAS AT 2.28 MILLION
9:51:49AM GALLONS -- BILLION GALLONS.
9:51:51AM SO 2 TO 15 IN, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN A FEW MONTHS IS
9:51:58AM REMARKABLE.
9:51:59AM WE'RE HAPPY ABOUT THE RAIN.
9:52:01AM I KNOW SOME OF THE FOLKS HAVE SUFFERED FROM THE FLOODING.
9:52:04AM WE DID GET OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT REPLENISHED.
9:52:09AM OUR DESAL PLANT, WE DO HAVE A DESAL PLANT IN APOLLO BEACH.
9:52:13AM IT IS BEING READY TO BE STARTED UP LATER THIS MONTH.
9:52:17AM IT HAD TO BE TAKEN OFF-LINE LAST OCTOBER FOR REPAIR WORK, SO
9:52:21AM WE GOT THROUGH THE DROUGHT WITHOUT THE USE OF ONE OF OUR
9:52:25AM THREE SOURCES.
9:52:26AM AND THAT WILL BE BACK VERY SOON.
9:52:27AM REGARDLESS OF THE SOURCE, ALL THE WATER WE SUPPLY TO OUR
9:52:34AM MEMBER GOVERNMENTS MEETS OR SURPASSES ALL OF THE DRINKING
9:52:38AM WATER STANDARDS.
9:52:39AM AND WE'RE TAKING STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE KEEP PACE WITH THE
9:52:42AM NEW WATER QUALITY REGULATIONS.
9:52:44AM THESE REGULATIONS INCLUDE WHAT THEY CALL THE POLYFLUOROALKYL
9:52:53AM SUBSTANCES.
9:52:54AM THOSE ARE KNOWN AS PFAS OR FOREVER CHEMICALS.

9:52:59AM THEY ARE MAN-MADE CHEMICALS FOUND IN EVERYDAY PRODUCTS THAT
9:53:03AM WE USE.
9:53:04AM NEW REGULATIONS CAME OUT AND THEY ARE AT 4 PARTS PER
9:53:08AM TRILLION.
9:53:08AM THERE'S FIVE YEARS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
9:53:11AM SO THE YEAR 2029, YOU HAVE TO BE UNDER THE FOUR PARTS PER
9:53:14AM TRILLION IF YOU HAVE PFOS IN YOUR SYSTEM.
9:53:19AM WE COMPLETED LAST YEAR FOUR QUARTERLY TESTING RESULTS TO SEE
9:53:25AM IF WE HAD PFOS IN THE SYSTEM OR NOT.
9:53:27AM GENERALLY SPEAKING, DOWN IN THE SOUTH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:53:29AM AREA IN WHAT WE CALL THE BRANDON WILLIAMS, THE NUMBER WAS
9:53:32AM SLIGHTLY OVER THE 4.
9:53:34AM SO WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT THAT IS LOOKING AT DIFFERENT
9:53:38AM THINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, AND A REPORT WILL BE OUT TO THE
9:53:42AM TAMPA BAY WATER BOARD IN EARLY JANUARY/FEBRUARY TO DEAL WITH
9:53:45AM THE TREATMENT PRIMARILY IN THAT AREA OF THE REGION.
9:53:48AM ALL OTHER TESTS WERE BELOW THE 4 OR NON-DETECT.
9:53:53AM BEYOND WATER QUALITY, WE ARE ALSO FOCUSING ON INCREASING THE
9:53:58AM QUANTITY.
9:54:00AM WE HAVE TO MEET THE FUTURE GROWTH NEEDS OF THE AREA.
9:54:03AM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE TWO MAJOR PROJECTS IN THE WORKS TO MEET
9:54:06AM THE DEMANDS BY THE YEAR 2028.
9:54:09AM WE ARE WORKING TO EXPAND OUR SURFACE WATER TREATMENT PLANT
9:54:13AM TO BETWEEN 10 AND 12 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
9:54:16AM AND THE EXPANSION IS CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN PHASE AND IT IS

9:54:20AM SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF 2028.
9:54:23AM AT THE SAME TIME, WE WERE ALSO DESIGNING A NEW SOUTH
9:54:27AM HILLSBOROUGH PIPELINE.
9:54:29AM THE PIPELINE IS A 26-MILE PIPELINE THAT WILL CARRY NEW WATER
9:54:34AM TO THE FASTEST GROWING AREA IN OUR REGION, SOUTH
9:54:38AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:54:39AM IT WILL BE BUILT IN TWO SEGMENTS.
9:54:42AM SEGMENT A AND A SEGMENT B.
9:54:44AM TAMPA BAY WATER IS FUNDING SEGMENT A AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
9:54:48AM IS FUNDING SEGMENT B.
9:54:49AM THIS PIPELINE IS ALSO SCHEDULED TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF
9:54:53AM THE FISCAL YEAR 2028.
9:54:58AM WE ARE ALSO LOOKING INTO THE FUTURE FOR NEW SUPPLIES.
9:55:00AM OUR DEMAND PROJECTION SHOW WE NEED BETWEEN 10 AND 15 MILLION
9:55:05AM GALLONS A DAY BY THE YEAR 2033 AND A TOTAL OF ABOUT 25
9:55:09AM MILLION GALLONS A DAY BY THE YEAR 2043.
9:55:12AM LAST NOVEMBER, THE BOARD APPROVED SEVEN PROJECTS.
9:55:17AM YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE ON THE GRAPH FOR FURTHER FEASIBILITY
9:55:22AM STUDIES.
9:55:22AM THE PROJECTS ARE ORDERED FROM THE NORTH TO THE SOUTH, AND
9:55:24AM THEY ARE SPATIALLY DIVERSE AND ALSO USE DIFFERING SUPPLIES.
9:55:30AM THEY INCLUDE FRESH GROUNDWATER, BRACKISH GROUNDWATER,
9:55:33AM SURFACE WATER, AND ADDITIONAL SEAWATER DESAL.
9:55:37AM WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED THE FEASIBILITY STUDIES ON THESE
9:55:41AM PROJECTS, AND IF ANY OF THEM ARE FEASIBLE TECHNICALLY,

9:55:45AM ENVIRONMENTALLY, AND ECONOMICALLY, WE WILL BE BRINGING THEM
9:55:49AM BACK TO THE BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN '27 AND '28,
9:55:54AM TO HAVE THE BOARD APPROVE THEM TO BE ONLINE BY THE YEAR
9:55:57AM 2033.
9:55:58AM WE ALSO CONTINUALLY ANALYZE OUR SYSTEM HYDRAULICS AND
9:56:05AM EMERGENCY SCENARIOS.
9:56:07AM WE GENERALLY HAVE BEEN UPDATING THIS REPORT EVERY TEN YEARS.
9:56:11AM WE MEET WITH ALL THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS, AND WE DISCUSS
9:56:14AM DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
9:56:17AM THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS, WE
9:56:20AM HAVE SOME BACKUP AND RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY.
9:56:23AM WE HAVE KICKED THAT OFF.
9:56:26AM BY NEXT YEAR, WE SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT DONE.
9:56:28AM GENERALLY WHAT HAPPENS, IT IDENTIFIES AREA OF WEAKNESS
9:56:32AM VULNERABILITY AND A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS ARE BORN
9:56:35AM FROM THIS.
9:56:36AM YOU ARE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF THINGS AND PLAN FOR THEM BEFORE
9:56:40AM THEY HAPPEN.
9:56:42AM WITH THE RECENT STORMS, THAT IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOME
9:56:45AM OF THE THINGS.
9:56:47AM I HEARD ABOUT A HOT WASH EARLIER, WE HAVE COMPLETED OUR HOT
9:56:51AM WASH ON OUR STORM EVENTS, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO
9:56:53AM SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT THIS YEAR.
9:56:55AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURE MEETINGS WHERE WE
9:57:00AM SEE WHAT DIDN'T WORK FOR US AND DID WORK FOR US AND SEE IF

9:57:03AM WE CAN DO A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IN TIME FOR THE NEXT STORM
9:57:07AM SEASON THAT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER HERE IN JUNE.
9:57:11AM THAT WAS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
9:57:14AM IT'S A VERY BUSY TIME AT TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:57:18AM THE REGION IS GROWING VERY FAST AND THERE ARE SOME NEW
9:57:20AM REGULATIONS IN THE WATER QUALITY THAT ARE OUT THERE.
9:57:23AM WE ARE COMMITTED TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY EVERY DAY, AND I
9:57:26AM WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW ME TO GIVE
9:57:30AM YOU INSIGHT ON WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
9:57:32AM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
9:57:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:35AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:57:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE JOB YOU DO.
9:57:38AM WATER IS A VERY FICKLE PROJECT.
9:57:41AM WHEN YOU HAVE IT, YOU DON'T NEED IT.
9:57:44AM WHEN YOU DON'T -- IT EVAPORATES, 15, 18 PERCENT OF THE
9:57:49AM VOLUME EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:57:51AM IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
9:57:52AM YES, WE HAVE AQUIFER STORAGE AND RECOVERY.
9:57:55AM THE CITY OF TAMPA PUTS IN 1.2 BILLION GALLONS OF WATER
9:57:59AM UNDERGROUND BETWEEN THE SUMMER MONTHS OF JULY, AUGUST,
9:58:01AM SEPTEMBER.
9:58:02AM TREATED, PUT BACK IN GROUND.
9:58:04AM WHEN WE NEED IT, USUALLY IN FEBRUARY THROUGH APRIL AND MAY,
9:58:07AM WE PULL UP 8 OR 10 MILLION GALLONS OUT OF THAT, RETREAT IT

9:58:11AM AND SEND IT BACK OUT.
9:58:12AM HOWEVER, NOTICE HOW MANY TIMES WE TREATED THE WATER --
9:58:16AM TWICE.
9:58:17AM YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OUR ONLY RESERVOIR ONLY HOLDS
9:58:20AM 1.2 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER AND LIKE A PLATE DISH.
9:58:23AM IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER RIGHT WHERE THE DAM IS AT JUST TO
9:58:27AM THE EAST OF IT.
9:58:28AM THOSE THINGS ARE ALL NECESSARY FOR US TO BE A GOOD PARTNER
9:58:30AM WITH TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:58:31AM WE BUY AND SELL, MOSTLY BUY FROM TAMPA BAY WATER.
9:58:34AM ON OCCASION THEY BUY A FEW DROPS OF WATER FROM US.
9:58:37AM THAT'S WHAT MAKES US ALL CONTINUOUSLY WORKING FOR THE PEOPLE
9:58:40AM AT A VERY REASONABLE PRICE COMPARED TO OTHERS.
9:58:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:58:43AM BY THE WAY, I'M NOT GOING TO BANG MYSELF IN THE HEAD, BUT
9:58:46AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONLY ONE OF FIVE UTILITY COMPANIES IN
9:58:50AM THE WHOLE UNITED STATES THAT HAS AAA BOND RATING.
9:58:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
9:58:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:58:56AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:58:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
9:58:58AM THE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH YOU REFERRED TO AND THE OTHER SOURCES,
9:59:04AM IS THERE ENOUGH RECHARGE, RAIN COMING INTO THE SYSTEM TO
9:59:09AM SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF PULLING THAT
9:59:12AM MUCH WATER OUT OF THE SYSTEM WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?

9:59:15AM >> WELL, THAT IS A GROUNDWATER.
9:59:19AM WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE TO MODEL TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF PULLING
9:59:23AM GROUNDWATER OUT, I KNOW THAT AREA IS WHAT THEY CALL IN A
9:59:27AM WATER CAUTION USE AREA.
9:59:30AM YOU CANNOT GET WATER OUT OF THERE CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF SOME
9:59:34AM OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS.
9:59:35AM WE DO HAVE A PROJECT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING WITH HILLSBOROUGH
9:59:37AM COUNTY TO BE ALLOWED TO DO SOME GROUNDWATER WITHDRAWAL IN
9:59:41AM THAT AREA, ONLY FOR THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PUTTING TREATED
9:59:45AM RECLAIMED WATER DOWN ON THE COAST THAT'S ACTING -- PRESSURE
9:59:50AM BUILDUP INTERNALLY INTO THE COUNTY WHICH LIFTS THE WATER
9:59:53AM TABLE AND WE MODELED TO BE ABLE TO USE PROBABLY 6 MILLION
9:59:57AM GALLONS A DAY IN A NEW WELL FIELD INLAND ABOUT FIVE MILES
10:00:00AM FROM WHERE THEY ARE INJECTING RECLAIMED WATER.
10:00:03AM INSTANCES LIKE THAT, THAT CAN BE DONE.
10:00:05AM BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THE REGULATIONS IS NO WATER IN THAT
10:00:09AM WATER USE CAUTION AREA.
10:00:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS CONFUSED TO SEE THIS ON YOUR MAP OF
10:00:14AM PROPOSED SITES THERE.
10:00:16AM I'M THINKING THAT'S INTERESTING.
10:00:17AM IT WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, A LOT OF OUR WELLS -- OUR WELLS
10:00:24AM WERE DRY.
10:00:24AM PONDS WERE DRY.
10:00:26AM FARMERS WERE STRUGGLING TO GET WATER TO DO THEIR CROPS.
10:00:30AM OF COURSE, WE HAD SEVERE WATER RESTRICTIONS.

10:00:33AM I KNOW I SHARE THAT WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CONCERNED ABOUT
10:00:36AM THE LIMITED WATER SUPPLY AND THE TYPE OF GROWTH, ESPECIALLY
10:00:40AM IN THE ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE AREAS.
10:00:43AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET WATER INTO THESE COUNTIES WITH THESE
10:00:48AM PRESSURES?
10:00:49AM >> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION TO ALLOW ME TO EXPAND ON TAMPA
10:00:52AM BAY WATER.
10:00:53AM WE EXPANDED -- WE WERE CREATED IN 1998, EACH OF THE MEMBERS
10:00:57AM KIND OF HAD THEIR OWN LITTLE SYSTEM.
10:01:01AM WHAT WE DID IS WE DIVERSED OUR SUPPLY.
10:01:04AM WE WENT AWAY FROM GROUNDWATER AND BUILT A SEAWATER DESAL
10:01:08AM PLANT, RESERVOIR TREATMENT PLANT AND KEY POINT, WE
10:01:12AM INTERCONNECTED THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
10:01:13AM I DON'T THINK I HAD THE MAP THAT SHOWS IT VERY WELL.
10:01:17AM IF YOU SAW THE BEFORE AND AFTER, YOU HAD THESE POCKETS.
10:01:20AM I CALLED THEM ISLANDS.
10:01:22AM THAT WAS IT.
10:01:24AM THAT'S WHAT THE MEMBERS GOT.
10:01:25AM NOW EVERYTHING IS INTERCONNECTED.
10:01:27AM WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE WATER AROUND FROM DIFFERENT
10:01:30AM AREAS.
10:01:31AM IF THERE IS AN AREA THAT NEEDS SOME HELP, RECOVERY, WE CAN
10:01:36AM ROTATE OUR WELL FIELD WATER.
10:01:38AM WE CAN SEND WATER NORTH.
10:01:40AM WE CAN SEND WATER SOUTH.

10:01:41AM SO WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:01:44AM WE DON'T HAVE THE ONE WE GO IN ONE BASKET.
10:01:48AM WE HAVE PLENTY OF EGGS.
10:01:50AM WE HAVE LOTS OF OPTIONS NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE.
10:01:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DESAL PLANT OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY,
10:01:54AM HOW MANY GALLONS A DAY WOULD IT GENERATE?
10:01:56AM >> 20 MILLION GALLONS A DAY WOULD BE FULL CAPACITY.
10:01:59AM THAT IS OUR INTENTION BY THE CALENDAR YEAR END OF THIS YEAR,
10:02:03AM DECEMBER, INTENDING TO BE AT 20 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
10:02:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY EXPANSION PROPOSAL WOULD GENERATE HOW
10:02:08AM MUCH?
10:02:09AM >> CAN BE EXPANDED UP TO 35 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
10:02:12AM THERE WAS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS PLACED ORIGINALLY TO HAVE
10:02:15AM A FUTURE EXPANSION.
10:02:17AM SO 35 IS THE TOP LIMIT THAT IT CAN GO TO.
10:02:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH WATER DO YOU
10:02:23AM DISTRIBUTE TO YOUR USERS EVERY DAY?
10:02:25AM >> AVERAGE IS ABOUT 200 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
10:02:29AM OF COURSE, THAT DIFFERS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
10:02:31AM WE CAN GO 250, 260 DURING THE DRY SEASON AND THEN GET AS LOW
10:02:37AM AS 175 DURING THE WETTER MONTHS.
10:02:41AM BUT ALSO, DURING THE DAY, IT DOES THAT SAME THING.
10:02:44AM EARLY IN THE MORNING, RIGHT AFTER 5:30 OR SO, YOU'LL SEE THE
10:02:51AM SPIKE.
10:02:52AM THE AVERAGE IS A MISLEADING NUMBER.

10:02:55AM SOMETIMES YOU SAY, 200.
10:02:56AM BUT YOU GOT TO BE READY FOR 260, 270 AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT.
10:03:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF OUR DAILY
10:03:02AM NEEDS.
10:03:02AM PEOPLE THINK THAT THE DESAL PLANT IS UNLIMITED SUPPLY OF
10:03:06AM WATER, IT'S JUST A SMALL PORTION.
10:03:10AM >> 10%, QUICK 20 OVER 200.
10:03:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:03:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:03:15AM ALL RIGHT.
10:03:15AM WE APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
10:03:16AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
10:03:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE
10:03:19AM RECESS AND WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:03:22AM WE HAVE OVER TWO HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WILL TAKE US
10:03:27AM TO GIVE OR TAKE 12:30.
10:03:29AM I'LL DO THE CONSENT AGENDA AFTER AND THEN BREAK FOR LUNCH.
10:03:32AM WE'LL TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BRING
10:03:35AM MORE PEOPLE WAITING TO COME IN TO SPEAK.
10:03:37AM WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
10:03:38AM [RECESS]
10:14:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:14:58AM WELCOME BACK.
10:14:59AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
10:14:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.

10:15:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
10:15:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
10:15:03AM >> HENDERSON?
10:15:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
10:15:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:15:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
10:15:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:15:07AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:15:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:15:10AM WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:15:11AM THEY WILL GO FIRST AND WE'LL GO TO THE IN-PERSON, MR.
10:15:15AM FRANKLIN PEREZ.
10:15:16AM IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:15:25AM >> HI.
10:15:25AM THIS IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
10:15:27AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:15:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:15:29AM >> HI.
10:15:30AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:15:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:15:32AM GO AHEAD.
10:15:33AM >> GREAT.
10:15:34AM HELLO, MY NAME IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
10:15:36AM I LIVE IN SEMINOLE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:15:39AM I AM HERE TO DEMAND THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL VOTE TO

10:15:42AM RETAIN THE POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD, NOT TO DISSOLVE IT.
10:15:47AM THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA FOUGHT HARD TO GET A SMALL AMOUNT OF
10:15:50AM POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND YOU SHOULD STAND UP TO RON
10:15:54AM DESANTIS' ATTEMPTS TO SILENCE ANY LEGITIMATE DEMANDS FOR
10:15:58AM POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
10:16:01AM AS OUR POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CAN ONLY REVIEW CLOSED
10:16:05AM CASES AND NOT ISSUE ANY DISCIPLINARY ACTIONS AGAINST THE
10:16:10AM POLICE, THERE IS NO REASON TO DISSOLVE IT.
10:16:12AM ACCORDING TO THE BILL 601, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN
10:16:16AM THAT, YOU SHOULD ALL STAND UP AGAINST RON DESANTIS' PATHETIC
10:16:21AM ATTEMPTS TO BULLY THE PEOPLE AND STOMP OUT LOCAL DEMOCRACY.
10:16:24AM PEOPLE NEED SOME WAY TO PUBLICLY EXPRESS THEIR ISSUES WITH
10:16:29AM POLICE BRUTALITY AND MISCONDUCT WHICH IS CLEARLY STILL A
10:16:33AM PROBLEM IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
10:16:33AM AS EVIDENCED BY THE POLICE BRUTALITY INFLICTED AGAINST THE
10:16:39AM LOCAL ACTIVIST CARLOS -- SAVE THE POLICE CITIZEN REVIEW
10:16:45AM BOARD.
10:16:45AM SAY NO TO DESANTIS' ATTACKS ON THE PEOPLE.
10:16:48AM ALSO, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHAT WE TRULY NEED IS A POLICE
10:16:52AM ACCOUNTABILITY ACT THAT WILL REQUIRE THE FORMATION OF
10:16:55AM CIVILIAN POLICE REVIEW BOARDS WITH REAL TEETH TO OVERSEE
10:17:00AM STATE, COUNTY, AND CITY POLICE DEPARTMENTS WITH THE FULL
10:17:03AM POWERS TO INDEPENDENTLY INVESTIGATE, DISCIPLINE, AND
10:17:06AM TERMINATE PROBLEM POLICE OFFICERS.
10:17:08AM WE ALSO NEED TO DO AWAY WITH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY BECAUSE IT

10:17:14AM GIVES POLICE OFFICERS A VIRTUAL LICENSE TO KILL.
10:17:16AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:17:17AM HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
10:17:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:20AM NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:17:22AM MR. RANDOLPH.
10:17:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:17:26AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:17:29AM I WANT TO START OFF BY GIVING A SHOUT-OUT TO THE MEN AND
10:17:33AM WOMEN OF -- I'M ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEVER LEARNED
10:17:38AM HOW TO DRIVE, SO I DEPEND ON THE HARTLINE BUS TO GET ME TO
10:17:45AM AND FROM.
10:17:45AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, I ALSO USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:17:49AM SURVEY THE COMMUNITY AND GET A FEEL TO SAY TO WHAT REGULAR
10:17:54AM PEOPLE THINK.
10:17:55AM WHAT I NOTICED OVER THE LAST TWO MONTHS, MAYBE THREE MONTHS,
10:17:58AM THERE HAS BEEN A GROWING TENSION BETWEEN THE HARTLINE
10:18:03AM WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO -- PARTLY BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSES HAVE
10:18:09AM BEEN PULLED OUT OF SERVICE, HENCE WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE
10:18:13AM THE BUS IS RUNNING LATE.
10:18:16AM THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EMPLOYEES.
10:18:18AM WHAT I'M NOTICING, ONGOING CONFLICT BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO CATCH
10:18:24AM THE BUS AND THE BUS LATE AND THE BUS DRIVER WHO IS TRYING TO
10:18:29AM -- I FEAR THIS COULD ERODE TO A PHYSICAL TYPE OF SITUATION.
10:18:36AM I PRAY THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN.

10:18:37AM I DID MAKE THAT OBSERVATION RELATED TO THE HARTLINE.
10:18:42AM A LOT OF TENSION IS GOING ON THERE.
10:18:45AM AGAIN, SHOUT-OUT TO THE EMPLOYEES AND WHAT THEY HAD TO PUT
10:18:50AM UP WITH.
10:18:51AM THE NEXT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
10:18:53AM ELECTIONS DO HAVE IMPACT.
10:18:57AM HEADING TOWARDS A TERRIBLE TIME.
10:19:01AM AGENCIES LIKE -- CLIMATE CHANGE, CIVIL RIGHTS, REGULATORY
10:19:14AM AGENCIES BEING TAKEN APART.
10:19:19AM I'M VERY FEARFUL ABOUT WHAT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN, BUT I AM
10:19:22AM ALSO CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT THROUGH
10:19:25AM ANYTHING AND THAT THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
10:19:29AM PEOPLE SHOULDN'T FEAR WHAT TO HAPPEN BUT ONLY TO EMBRACE IT
10:19:32AM AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:19:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:19:34AM WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:19:35AM FIRST IS BISHOP MICHELLE PATTY FOLLOWED BY LANCE KANE AND
10:19:40AM MICHELLE TURNER.
10:19:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, YES.
10:19:45AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:19:47AM JUST A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC, AS THE CHAIR STATED, IF
10:19:51AM YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON STAFF REPORTS OR ANYTHING ON THE
10:19:55AM CONSENT AGENDA, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
10:19:57AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR PUBLIC
10:20:00AM HEARING, AS THE WAY IT'S SET FORTH IN THE AGENDA, IF IT'S

10:20:03AM SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, YOUR TIME TO SPEAK WOULD BE AT THE
10:20:05AM TIME OF PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN.
10:20:07AM AGAIN, A REMINDER, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY NOW TO SPEAK
10:20:10AM ABOUT ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND STAFF REPORTS.
10:20:14AM IF YOU WANT TO OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE, THE STAFF
10:20:18AM REPORTS WILL BE HEARD THIS AFTERNOON.
10:20:19AM SO YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAY TO HEAR THE STAFF REPORTS
10:20:22AM OR WATCH THEM EITHER ON CCTV OR ONLINE AS STREAMED.
10:20:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:29AM BISHOP PATTY.
10:20:30AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:20:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:20:31AM I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:20:33AM I STAND BEFORE YOU.
10:20:35AM THIS IS A BITTERSWEET MOMENT FOR ME AND MS. NORENE COPELAND
10:20:40AM MILLER'S FAMILY.
10:20:41AM WE'RE HERE TO THANK THE MAYOR, JANE CASTOR, CITY COUNCIL,
10:20:45AM JANELLE McGREGORY, CEDRIC McCRAY, ALL OF YOU THAT HAS
10:20:50AM BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEMORIAL CEMETERY THAT SHE
10:20:54AM FOUGHT SO HARD TO RECEIVE.
10:20:56AM SHE GAINED HER WINGS ON OCTOBER THE 15, AND WE KNEW THIS
10:21:01AM WOULD BE A PLACE SHE WOULD HAVE WANTED TO COME TO THANK YOU
10:21:04AM FOR THE FENCE.
10:21:05AM THE FENCE NOW IS A PERMANENT FENCE THAT HAS BEEN ERECTED.

10:21:10AM WE JUST THOUGHT WE WOULD COME DOWN WITH HER DAUGHTERS AND
10:21:13AM FAMILY AND COMMUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL THAT
10:21:16AM YOU WERE VERY DILIGENT AND YOU ALL MADE SURE THAT THINGS
10:21:20AM TOOK PLACE OUT THERE.
10:21:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SHE WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
10:21:27AM STUFF YOU DID.
10:21:28AM YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT IN DISTRICT 5.
10:21:30AM SHE KNOW YOU COULD NOT HAVE DONE THINGS WITHOUT THE SUPPORT
10:21:32AM AND THE VOTE OF ALL THE COUNCIL.
10:21:34AM SO WE WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.
10:21:36AM I'LL YIELD ONE MINUTE OR TWO TO HER DAUGHTER.
10:21:39AM THIS IS HER OLDEST DAUGHTER.
10:21:42AM >> BENISHA JACKSON.
10:21:44AM THANK YOU ALL, CITY OF TAMPA, THE COUNCILMEN, AND ALSO TPD
10:21:50AM FOR THE FLOWERS AND THE RESOLUTION, THE PLAQUE THAT WE ALL
10:21:53AM RECEIVED.
10:21:54AM MY MOM WOULD BE SO HONORED TO KNOW THAT EVERYTHING IS GOING
10:21:58AM FORWARD WITH EVERYTHING.
10:21:58AM WE JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU IN PERSON.
10:22:00AM AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:22:03AM >> GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
10:22:04AM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH ON HER BEHALF.
10:22:07AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:22:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, LANCE KANE.
10:22:15AM DR. KANE.

10:22:17AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:19AM >> LANCE KANE.
10:22:20AM I'M A MEDICAL DOCTOR.
10:22:23AM I HAVE A PRACTICE FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS AT 508 SOUTH HABANA
10:22:26AM AVENUE, SUITE 150 ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
10:22:30AM BACK IN 2015 IT FLOODED AND IT FLOODED AGAIN A FEW WEEKS
10:22:35AM AGO.
10:22:35AM THE FIRST TIME IT WAS AN EXPENSIVE ADVENTURE.
10:22:40AM THIS TIME WAS A BIT MORE OF A DEVASTATING BLOW.
10:22:43AM THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR FLOODED, INCLUDING FOUR OTHER
10:22:49AM DOCTORS.
10:22:52AM THE ELEVATORS STILL AREN'T WORKING.
10:22:54AM THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS ARE ALSO SUFFERING DUE TO THE
10:22:58AM HOSPITALITY OF SOME OF MY OTHER FRIENDS IN THE BUILDING,
10:23:01AM I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE MY URGENT PATIENTS IN THE AFTERNOON,
10:23:08AM BUT THEY ARE LITERALLY GETTING THOUSANDS OF MISSED PATIENT
10:23:13AM VISITS THAT WORRY ME, NOT ONLY FINANCIALLY IS IT
10:23:17AM DEVASTATING, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REBUILD THE
10:23:21AM OFFICE AND IN LOST INCOME, BUT I WORRY ABOUT STAFF.
10:23:27AM I KNOW ONE OF THE DOCTORS IS LEAVING FOR GOOD.
10:23:31AM IT'S A RECURRING PROBLEM, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL
10:23:36AM FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO AND THE HARD DECISIONS YOU HAVE TO
10:23:38AM MAKE.
10:23:38AM AS VOCIFEROUSLY AS I CAN, MY SUPPORT BEHIND ANY SORT OF
10:23:44AM PROJECT THAT CAN AMELIORATE AND MINIMIZE THE RISKS OF

10:23:51AM WALKING INTO MY OFFICE AND FEELING WATER LAPPING AROUND MY
10:23:57AM ANKLES.
10:23:58AM I KNOW A LOT OF MY PATIENTS ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY SAY
10:24:02AM MY HOUSE LOOKS JUST LIKE YOUR OFFICE.
10:24:05AM HORRIBLE.
10:24:06AM SO I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST BUSINESSES.
10:24:08AM IT'S ALSO INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR HOMES.
10:24:11AM I FEEL VERY GRATEFUL IN THAT REGARD.
10:24:13AM THAT'S IT.
10:24:16AM I HOPE WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO HELP WITH THE STORMWATER
10:24:18AM DRAINAGE AND PUT MY SUPPORT BEHIND THAT.
10:24:20AM THANK YOU ALL.
10:24:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:21AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE -- YES, MA'AM.
10:24:26AM FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH NAJAVA AND VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:24:34AM >> MICHELLE TURNER.
10:24:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:24:37AM >> I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OVER 30 FAMILIES LOCATED IN A
10:24:40AM NON-FLOOD ZONE IMPACTED BY CATASTROPHIC FAILURE OF OUR
10:24:44AM STORMWATER SYSTEM DURING HURRICANE MILTON.
10:24:46AM THE DRAINAGE FAILURE FLOODED HOMES, DISPLACED FAMILIES AND
10:24:49AM OVERWHELMED CONCORDIA PARK AND NEARBY STREETS IN BAYSHORE
10:24:52AM BEAUTIFUL.
10:24:52AM THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF FLOODING IN ZONE X, A ZONE
10:24:56AM CONSIDERED LOW RISK FOR FLOODING WITH ONLY A .2 PERCENT

10:24:59AM ANNUAL CHANCE OF OCCURRING.
10:25:00AM AFTER MILTON WE SUBMITTED A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO THE CITY
10:25:03AM OF TAMPA AND EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY REQUESTING URGENT ACTION.
10:25:06AM OUR NEIGHBORS FEEL OVERLOOKED BECAUSE NO OTHER CITY
10:25:09AM OFFICIALS HAVE VISITED THE SITE TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL
10:25:11AM IMPACT OUTSIDE OF BILL CARLSON.
10:25:13AM I'M SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THOSE FAMILIES MANY OF YOU
10:25:16AM ARE DISPLACED AND UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY.
10:25:19AM A FAMILY IS LIVING IN AN RV BESIDE THE HOME WITH THREE
10:25:22AM FAMILY MEMBERS AND TWO DOGS.
10:25:23AM ANOTHER RESIDENT SLEEPING IN THEIR OFFICE.
10:25:26AM SEVERAL FAMILIES LIVING WITHIN A CONSTRUCTION ZONE BECAUSE
10:25:28AM THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO RELOCATE.
10:25:30AM NONE OF THE FAMILIES EXPECTED TO FLOOD NOR DO MANY HAVE
10:25:34AM FLOOD INSURANCE.
10:25:34AM THEY RELIED ON BY PURCHASING IN A NON-FLOOD ZONE AND
10:25:39AM PROPERTY TAXES, THEY WOULD HAVE A FUNCTIONING INFRASTRUCTURE
10:25:42AM SYSTEM TO PROTECT THEM.
10:25:43AM THIS WAS NOT A ONE IN 1,000 YEAR EVENT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:25:46AM STORM SURGE OF NEGATIVE FIVE FEET, MEANING BAY LEVELS LOWER
10:25:51AM AND JUST UNDER A FOOT OF RAIN FOR THE ENTIRE HURRICANE YET
10:25:54AM SOMEHOW BY 9 P.M. CONCORDIA PARK WAS INUNDATED WITH FIVE TO
10:25:59AM SEVEN FEET OF WATER WHICH SPILLED INTO OUR STREETS AND HOMES
10:26:02AM BY WAY OF FLASH FLOOD.
10:26:04AM THIS WAS A FAILURE OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM, NOT A FREAK

10:26:07AM OCCURRENCE.
10:26:07AM THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPERIENCED
10:26:10AM DRAINAGE ISSUES.
10:26:11AM SINCE 1970s, CITY HAS MANAGED LAND HERE FOR STORMWATER AND
10:26:14AM SIGNIFICANT FLOODING EVENTS HAVE RECORDED IN 2000s, 2015
10:26:18AM AND AUGUST 15th OF THIS YEAR AFTER AN HOUR-LONG RAINSTORM.
10:26:22AM AUGUST FLOOD OCCURRED SAME DAY EXCAVATION BEGAN IN CONCORDIA
10:26:27AM PARK.
10:26:27AM HEAVY EQUIPMENT SUBMERGED ON-SITE FOR OVER A WEEK AND MAY
10:26:31AM HAVE OBSTRUCTED A CULVERT.
10:26:33AM RESIDENTS RAISED CONCERNS FOR FEAR THE NEXT STORM WOULD
10:26:36AM FLOOD OUR HOMES.
10:26:37AM ULTIMATELY DISMISSED AND REFERRED TO PARKS AND REC BY
10:26:40AM STORMWATER.
10:26:41AM MONTH AND A HALF LATER MILTON BROUGHT FLOODING 30 TIMES
10:26:44AM WORSE.
10:26:44AM WITHOUT ANY OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO SIFT
10:26:47AM THROUGH GIS MAPS, PUBLIC RECORDS AND PROPERTY DOCUMENTS
10:26:50AM OURSELVES AS NONENGINEERS.
10:26:52AM WE SUSPECT SOURCES OF FAILURE TO INCLUDE STORMWATER CULVERTS
10:26:55AM BROKEN OR CLOGGED, POORLY DESIGNED OPEN DRAIN LINES FROM THE
10:26:59AM CROSSTOWN, EXCESSIVE RUNOFF AND EROSION FROM THE CROSSTOWN,
10:27:02AM FAULTY RETENTION POND DESIGN AND LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND
10:27:05AM POSSIBLY NONFUNCTIONING VALVES.
10:27:08AM THIS MAP SHOWS WHERE ALL OF THE DRAINAGE POINTS ARE.

10:27:10AM UNACCEPTABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO SUFFER PREVENTABLE FLOODING
10:27:14AM WHILE BEARING REBUILDING COSTS.
10:27:15AM COMMUNITY DESERVES ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMMEDIATE ACTION FROM
10:27:17AM THE CITY.
10:27:18AM WE ARE REQUESTING INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING STUDY TO IDENTIFY
10:27:21AM ROOT CAUSES, ASSESS CULVERTS, DRAINS AND PUMPS FUNCTIONALITY
10:27:25AM IN THE AREA.
10:27:26AM IMMEDIATE SHORT-TERM ACTIONS INCLUDING MEASURING TO PREVENT
10:27:29AM FLOODING IN THE NEXT STORM AND A COMMUNICATION PLAN FOR
10:27:31AM RESIDENTS.
10:27:32AM FINALLY, A LONG-TERM TRANSPARENT SOLUTION THAT INCLUDES A
10:27:35AM COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN, REGULAR
10:27:37AM INSPECTIONS, MITIGATION STRATEGIES FOR ANY PROJECTS
10:27:40AM INCLUDING CROSSTOWN EXPANSION WHICH THEY ARE ISSUING AN RFP
10:27:44AM FOR ON NOVEMBER 13.
10:27:45AM I IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE RECOGNIZE THE URGENCY OF THE ISSUES,
10:27:48AM OTHERWISE WE ARE SITTING DUCKS WAITING FOR THE NEXT STORM.
10:27:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU SUBMIT THOSE DOCUMENTS TO OUR
10:27:53AM ATTORNEY SO WE CAN SEE THEM?
10:27:54AM >> YES.
10:27:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRING THEM UP.
10:27:56AM NEXT UP JOSEPH, VALERIE.
10:28:08AM PAM.
10:28:09AM IS JOSEPH HERE? WE BROUGHT UP EVERYBODY FROM THE SECOND
10:28:14AM FLOOR, I BELIEVE.

10:28:15AM SO WE GO UP TO MS. VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:28:18AM YES, MA'AM.
10:28:18AM PAM CANNELLA AND JAMES FLYNN.
10:28:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:28:24AM I'M VALERIE BULLOCK.
10:28:25AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 39 ON THE AGENDA, THE CITY COUNCIL
10:28:31AM RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.
10:28:34AM I'M HOPING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY IN A STRATEGIC
10:28:38AM MANNER WITH TARGETED AND MEASURABLE GOALS.
10:28:41AM RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET AGAIN AND
10:28:46AM SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION IN FEBRUARY, BUT
10:28:49AM BY THE TIME THAT THE MONEY AND EVERYTHING GOT TOGETHER, IT
10:28:53AM LOOKED LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE THREE MONTHS NOW.
10:28:57AM I'M HOPING THERE IS AN EXTENSION IN PLACE SO THAT THE
10:29:01AM COMMISSION CAN HAVE THE FULL SIX MONTHS TO STUDY AND COME
10:29:04AM BACK WITH GOOD OBJECTIVES.
10:29:08AM ALSO, WE CAN MAKE THE PLAN FEEL EQUAL NOW.
10:29:12AM WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE COMMISSION MEETS.
10:29:15AM SOME THINGS WE CAN DO NOW.
10:29:18AM TRAINING IS NEEDED IN EAST TAMPA.
10:29:20AM NOT ONLY JOB TRAINING LIKE APPRENTICESHIP WITH THE CITY OF
10:29:24AM TAMPA, WITH JOBS THAT GIVE PEOPLE A LIVABLE INCOME IN THE
10:29:29AM WATER, WASTEWATER MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, BUT WE ALSO NEED
10:29:32AM OTHER KINDS OF TRAINING ALSO AND WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR
10:29:36AM THE COMMISSION TO MEET FOR THAT.

10:29:38AM WE NEED TO GET ON THIS AND GET ON IT QUICK BECAUSE SOME
10:29:41AM PEOPLE'S VERY LIVES DEPEND ON IT.
10:29:44AM ANOTHER THING MINE DEALING WITH THE CITY, I'LL TALK ABOUT
10:29:49AM THE CITY OF LAKELAND.
10:29:50AM THAT'S WHERE I WORK AT.
10:29:51AM WITH THE CITY, WHEN IT COMES TO SPENDING MONEY, THEY ARE
10:29:56AM VERY, VERY TIGHT.
10:29:56AM THE CITY OF LAKELAND STARTED THEIR PIPES PROGRAM WHEN THE
10:30:01AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE THEM MONEY FOR THAT.
10:30:03AM NOW, WE DO PAY TAXES AND A TAX RATE HAVE WENT UP AND WE GOT
10:30:07AM ALL THESE NEW HOUSES BEING BUILT.
10:30:10AM MAYBE SOME OF THAT MONEY COULD HAVE WENT TO THE PIPES
10:30:13AM PROGRAM.
10:30:14AM THIS SITTING AND WAITING UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS BEFORE WE
10:30:17AM DO SOMETHING ABOUT A KNOWN PROBLEM, THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
10:30:21AM WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY SO THAT WE COULD FIX THE PROBLEM
10:30:25AM SO THAT THE CITIZENS DON'T SUFFER.
10:30:29AM IT'S MANY THINGS WE CAN DO BECAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE WE HAVE A
10:30:32AM FEASIBILITY STUDY.
10:30:34AM WHAT OUGHT TO GO FIVE YEARS, WHAT OUGHT TO GO FOR THE NEXT
10:30:39AM TEN YEARS.
10:30:40AM MOVE THE MONEY TO THE TARGETED AREA.
10:30:41AM THE CITY SHOULD NOT LET THE CITIZENS' PAIN BE PROLONGED
10:30:46AM BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE THE MONEY.
10:30:49AM WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE IN SOME THINGS.

10:30:51AM IT'S JUST LIKE IN MY HOUSE, IF I KNOW MY KIDS ONLY HAVE ONE
10:30:55AM PACK OF MEAT WE HAVE TO GO A WHOLE WEEK, THAT MEANS THE
10:30:59AM MONEY GO TO THE HAIRDRESSER, I NEED TO GO TO THE GROCERY
10:31:03AM STORE WITH IT AND THAT'S HOW THE CITY NEED TO BECOME.
10:31:06AM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
10:31:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:31:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:31:10AM PAM CANNELLA, JAMES FLYNN, MARY LOU BAILEY.
10:31:16AM MA'AM, DID YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK TOO OR ARE YOU STANDING WITH
10:31:33AM HER?
10:31:34AM >> SHE'S GOING TO PUT THE PICTURES UP.
10:31:35AM I CAN'T DO BOTH.
10:31:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MA'AM.
10:31:37AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:37AM >> MY NAME IS PAM CANNELLA.
10:31:39AM MY CONCERN IS THIS HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROJECT IS
10:31:43AM UNSUBSTANTIATED.
10:31:49AM IT'S A BIG WORD FOR ME.
10:31:50AM AND MAY NOT BE THE SOLUTION TO THE SWANN AND PARKLANDS
10:31:55AM FLOODING PROBLEM.
10:31:55AM A PROJECT OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN A VERY SMALL, DENSE
10:31:59AM NEIGHBORHOOD WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
10:32:02AM THESE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ARE GREATER THAN THE POSITIVE, AND AT
10:32:05AM THE END OF SIX YEARS AND 65 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS, WE MAY OR
10:32:10AM MAY NOT HAVE FLOODING ON SWANN AND PARKLAND.

10:32:13AM BUT THIS IS WHAT WE DO KNOW.
10:32:17AM THIS PROJECT WILL NOT BENEFIT FLOODING IN THESE OTHER AREAS
10:32:20AM SUCH AS SOUTH OF GANDY, PALMA CEIA, KENNEDY, TOWN N'
10:32:24AM COUNTRY, WEST TAMPA AND WESTSHORE AND MANHATTAN WHICH STILL
10:32:28AM SUFFER FROM SUFFERING EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE
10:32:31AM PROJECT.
10:32:31AM ALL THESE OTHER AREAS WHERE FLOODING OCCURRED JUST A FEW
10:32:37AM MONTHS AGO BEFORE THE HURRICANE.
10:32:40AM A SOLUTION THAT WOULD BENEFIT ALL OF TAMPA WOULD BE TO
10:32:43AM CLEAN, REPAIR, AND MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
10:32:49AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WEBSITE SAYS IT BEST.
10:32:52AM TO KEEP STORMWATER PONDS AND DITCHES FUNCTIONING PROPERLY
10:32:56AM REQUIRE MONTHLY MAINTENANCE, WHICH INCLUDES GRASS CUTTING,
10:33:00AM DREDGING, REMOVAL OF ILLEGAL DUMPING AND TRASH PICKUP.
10:33:05AM MAINTENANCE IS A KEY PART NEEDED TO HELP KEEP THE CITY ABOVE
10:33:09AM WATER.
10:33:10AM YET MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE IS THIS MAINTENANCE HAS NOT BEEN
10:33:15AM DONE.
10:33:15AM THE FIRST PICTURE SHOWS 2023 WHERE THE DITCH WAS CLEANED
10:33:21AM PROPERLY FOR PROPER STORMWATER FLOW.
10:33:24AM THE SECOND PICTURE IS THE SAME DITCH NOW TAKEN IN 2024.
10:33:29AM IT SHOWS LACK OF MAINTENANCE WITH OVERGROWTH OF VEGETATION
10:33:35AM AND THE ONLY DRAINAGE PIPE FROM THE RETENTION POND COVERED
10:33:37AM OVER.
10:33:37AM YOU'LL SEE HOW IT'S COVERED OVER.

10:33:40AM AFTER SOME CONVINCING TO THE CITY, THE PIPE WAS CLEANED AWAY
10:33:45AM OF DEBRIS.
10:33:46AM AND INSIDE THE PIPE WAS A DORITO BAG, SEVERAL PLASTIC
10:33:50AM BOTTLES, A SIX-INCH GARDEN EDGING AND A RUBBER GARDEN HOSE,
10:33:56AM NOT TO MENTION PAPER ITEMS, GRASS CLIPPINGS AND SLUDGE.
10:33:59AM WITHOUT MAINTENANCE TO OUR RETENTION PONDS AND DITCHES, WE
10:34:04AM FLOOD.
10:34:05AM WE NOW HAVE A CITY CONTRACTED LANDSCAPER WHO COMES OUT ONCE
10:34:09AM A MONTH AND ONLY MOWS AND BLOWS THE GRASS CLIPPINGS AND THE
10:34:13AM LEAFS AND THEY END UP IN THE PONDS AND RETENTION DITCHES --
10:34:17AM RETENTION PONDS AND DITCHES.
10:34:19AM THEY DO NOT PICK UP TRASH, DEBRIS, OR OVERGROWTH IN THE
10:34:23AM DITCHES OR THE RETENTION POND.
10:34:25AM ANOTHER SOURCE OF FLOODING COMES FROM ALLEYS THAT HAVE BEEN
10:34:28AM -- THAT HAVE YEARS OF PATCHING LAYERED TO ALTER THE FLOW OF
10:34:32AM STORMWATER DRAINAGE RIGHT INTO OUR BACKYARDS.
10:34:35AM CITY ENGINEERS TOLD ME THEY NEED GRADING AND RESURFACING.
10:34:41AM CITY TOLD ME NO MONEY.
10:34:42AM THEN FLOODING BY OVERDEVELOPING, A TOPIC THAT WE HAVE YET TO
10:34:46AM BE ADDRESSED.
10:34:46AM I THANK YOU AND ALL THESE PICTURES WERE TAKEN BEFORE THE
10:34:50AM HURRICANE.
10:34:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:53AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:34:53AM IF WE COULD REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.

10:35:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:03AM NEXT SPEAKER IS JAMES FLYNN, THEN MARY LOU BAILEY.
10:35:09AM WHICH IS YOU AND ALISON DATE.
10:35:11AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:35:11AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:35:13AM I'M JAMES FLYNN.
10:35:15AM I'M MARRIED TO DR. LINDA FLYNN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS HAS
10:35:20AM OWNED AN OFFICE AT 2605 WEST SWANN AVENUE CALLED SOUTH TAMPA
10:35:27AM DERMATOLOGY.
10:35:28AM IT'S 2,000 SQUARE FEET.
10:35:30AM 16,000-SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE BUILDING.
10:35:32AM DENTAL OFFICE IN THERE.
10:35:35AM THERE IS A LAB, AND THERE ARE TWO OTHER PRIMARY CARE
10:35:39AM PROVIDERS.
10:35:40AM JUST IN OUR 2,000-SQUARE-FOOT OFFICE OVER THE PAST STORM,
10:35:47AM THREE WEEKS, 940 PATIENTS HAD TO HAVE THEIR APPOINTMENTS
10:35:51AM CANCELED.
10:35:53AM OUT OF THAT, ABOUT 230 BIOPSIES WERE SCHEDULED, RESULTING IN
10:36:01AM GENERALLY 86 SURGERIES.
10:36:04AM ADDITIONALLY, 21 WE DON'T CATCH IN TIME AND ARE MORE
10:36:09AM ADVANCED AND THEY HAVE TO GO TO MOFFITT OR SOMEPLACE ELSE
10:36:13AM FOR MORE EXTENSIVE SURGERY.
10:36:15AM SO NOT JUST THE PARKLAND ESTATES ARE AFFECTED.
10:36:18AM THE PATIENTS WITH THE CANCELED APPOINTMENTS RANGE FROM SEVEN

10:36:24AM WEEKS TO 94 YEARS OLD.
10:36:25AM OBVIOUSLY, BEING A MEDICAL OFFICE, OUR DEMOGRAPHICS SKEW
10:36:31AM OLDER THAN, SAY, SOME OF THE BUSINESSES ON FRANKLIN -- I
10:36:36AM MEAN, ON HOWARD.
10:36:40AM IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THOSE NUMBERS AND MULTIPLY THEM BY
10:36:44AM SEVEN, THAT'S WHAT OUR BUILDING MISSED OUT ON, AND WE'RE NOT
10:36:49AM EVEN IN DR. LANCE CAIN'S BUILDING.
10:36:52AM HE IS ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY ALSO GOT PUMPED PRETTY
10:36:56AM GOOD.
10:36:56AM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GULF OF MEXICO
10:37:00AM DECIDES TO COME INTO OUR WAITING ROOM.
10:37:02AM THIS IS SUMMER SHOWERS, STORM SHOWERS, AND IN THIS CASE, AN
10:37:07AM INTENSE RAIN.
10:37:08AM BUT WE HAVE SEEN FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS ON SWANN IN THE
10:37:16AM SUMMERTIME, PEOPLE LOSE CARS FROM A SIMPLE AFTERNOON SHOWER,
10:37:21AM NOT JUST ONE OR TWO CARS.
10:37:23AM PROBABLY 40, 50 A SUMMER.
10:37:26AM GET WIPED OUT JUST NEAR De LEON AND SWANN.
10:37:32AM IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO TAKE CARE OF THIS,
10:37:36AM BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, IT'S BEEN 20 YEARS.
10:37:39AM WE'VE BEEN FLOODED TWICE.
10:37:40AM A COUPLE OF TIMES DOWN TO THE STUDS WHERE WE HAD TO REBUILD.
10:37:45AM IF ANYTHING CAN BE DONE, LET'S GET ON WITH IT.
10:37:48AM LET'S NOT SLOW WALK THIS.
10:37:51AM IT'S AFFECTING A LOT OF PEOPLE AND NOT JUST THE PEOPLE WHO

10:37:53AM LIVE AROUND THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY WHO COME TO
10:37:56AM THE OFFICES.
10:37:57AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:37:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:37:59AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:37:59AM MARY LOU BAILEY.
10:38:03AM ALISON DATE.
10:38:04AM MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
10:38:08AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:38:09AM >> MARY LOU BAILEY.
10:38:10AM 912 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD
10:38:14AM FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
10:38:15AM I VERY MUCH AGREE WITH PAM CANNELLA'S POINT THAT WE NEED
10:38:19AM MORE MAINTENANCE.
10:38:20AM A LOT OF TIMES IN BUSINESSES AND IN GOVERNMENTS IT'S NOT
10:38:23AM SEXY TO FUND MAINTENANCE.
10:38:25AM SO MONEY GOES TO NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS AND SOMEHOW WE FIND
10:38:27AM IT, BUT WE NEED A DELIBERATE APPROACH TO FIND THE MONEY TO
10:38:30AM DO THE RIGHT KINDS OF MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF ALL THESE
10:38:36AM WATER PROBLEMS.
10:38:37AM NEEDS LIKE A PROGRAM MANAGER AND A DEDICATED FUND AND RUN IT
10:38:40AM LIKE A CAPITAL PROJECT, NOT SOMETHING THAT WE KIND OF TRY TO
10:38:43AM DO ON THE SIDE WHEN WE HAVE MONEY TO DO IT.
10:38:46AM FIRST POINT I WANTED TO MAKE.
10:38:48AM SECOND, I WOULD LIKE THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT

10:38:51AM TO GO FORWARD.
10:38:51AM IT'S BEEN STUDIED FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
10:38:53AM I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HAVE STAGE GATES, REAL STAGE
10:38:57AM GATES WITH CRITERIA AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THE ENGINEERS
10:39:00AM THERE.
10:39:01AM I KNOW PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT SOME OF THE ROUTES AND OTHER
10:39:03AM CHOICES, ET CETERA.
10:39:04AM BUT WE'RE JUST KIND OF PIVOTING AROUND.
10:39:07AM I WANTED TO GO FORWARD.
10:39:08AM GET ENGINEERING STARTED BUT HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
10:39:12AM I KNOW VICK'S LETTER SAYS THERE IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC
10:39:15AM ENGAGEMENT.
10:39:16AM SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND IT'S JUST
10:39:18AM THEM PRESENTING OUT, REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH REAL
10:39:20AM ENGINEERING EXPERTISE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ROUTE SHOULD BE
10:39:24AM AND HOW TO MITIGATE THE SHORT-TERM DISRUPTION TO THE
10:39:26AM BUSINESSES AND THE MANY OF US WHO COME AND GO, TAKING OUR
10:39:29AM KIDS TO SCHOOL AND GETTING GROCERIES AND TRYING TO LIVE.
10:39:33AM A LOT OF TIMES THE CITY PROJECTS WILL CLOSE DOWN A ROADWAY
10:39:36AM OR LANES OF A ROADWAY FOR BLOCKS AND BLOCKS AND BLOCKS
10:39:39AM BEFORE THERE IS ANY CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
10:39:41AM WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
10:39:42AM THIS IS A VERY BUSY AREA.
10:39:43AM ALSO I KNOW THEY WILL BE TAKING OUT TREES.
10:39:45AM I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT, BUT LIKE THE CITY HAS DONE

10:39:48AM WITH THE HYDE PARK GROUNDWATER DIVERSION PROJECT, WHICH I'M
10:39:51AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH, THEY ARE REPLACING OUR TREES.
10:39:54AM AND WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM WHAT KIND OF TREES GO IN,
10:39:57AM HIGH-QUALITY TREES THAT ONE DAY WILL PROVIDE CANOPY.
10:40:00AM THERE WILL BE A SHORT-TERM LOSS OF CANOPY.
10:40:03AM I'M A TREE LOVER.
10:40:04AM I HATE THAT BUT A NECESSARY THING.
10:40:06AM I COME TO YOU WITH A PRACTICAL HAT ON SAYING LET'S GO
10:40:09AM FORWARD, GET THE ENGINEERING STARTED.
10:40:11AM I'M OKAY IF IT IS A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT BUT HAS TO BE
10:40:14AM STAGE GATES AND CRITERIA WHERE THEY DON'T GET MONEY, DON'T
10:40:17AM GET TO GO FORWARD UNLESS THERE'S REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH
10:40:20AM CITIZENS AND THE ENGINEERS AT THE TABLE DOING PRACTICAL
10:40:23AM SOLUTIONS FOR IT.
10:40:24AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:40:27AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:40:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:40:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALISON DATE.
10:40:30AM MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
10:40:35AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:40:39AM >> ALISON DATE.
10:40:40AM IN MARCH THIS YEAR I VISITED THE PARKLAND ESTATES, ONE OF
10:40:45AM THE PROPOSED ROUTES FOR STORMWATER PIPES.
10:40:48AM I HELPED THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP LOCATE AND MEASURE THE LIVE
10:40:52AM OAKS WHICH IS THE DOMINANT SPECIES ALONG THESE STREETS.

10:40:58AM A 25-YEAR-OLD RESIDENT SURVEYED THE CANOPY IN THE AREA AND
10:41:02AM REACHED THESE CONCLUSIONS.
10:41:03AM IF THE ROUTES SELECTED FOR THE PROJECT GOES THROUGH OUR
10:41:06AM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, IT WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING IMPACT
10:41:09AM ON OUR TREES.
10:41:10AM THE INSTALLATION OF LARGE BOX CULVERTS SPECIFIED IN THE
10:41:15AM PROJECT REQUIRE CURB TO CURB DEMOLITION WITH TRENCHES UP TO
10:41:19AM 20 FEET DEEP AND 10 FEET WIDE.
10:41:22AM THAT WOULD DECIMATE OUR TREE POPULATION.
10:41:27AM IMMATURE REPLACEMENT TREES WILL TAKE MANY DECADES TO ACHIEVE
10:41:30AM THE CANOPY WE HAVE NOW.
10:41:32AM IN SOME AREAS, SUCH AS BRISTOL AVENUE, THE MEDIAN WITH A
10:41:38AM HUNDRED-YEAR-OLD HISTORIC WELL AND OVER A DOZEN MATURE SHADE
10:41:41AM TREES WILL BE OBLITERATED.
10:41:43AM THE LOSS WOULD BE PERMANENT SINCE ONLY SHRUBS COULD BE
10:41:46AM REPLANTED IN THE MEDIANS.
10:41:48AM EVEN TREES IN HOMEOWNERS' GRANT YARDS COULD BE KILLED SLOWLY
10:41:54AM BY THE PROJECT DUE TO ROOT DAMAGE.
10:41:56AM LIVE OAKS IN PARTICULAR WHICH HAPPEN TO BE 82% OF THE TREES
10:42:00AM ALONG ONE OF THE PROPOSED ROUTES HAVE A SHALLOW,
10:42:03AM WIDE-RANGING ROOT SYSTEM THAT EXTENDS FAR BEYOND THE TIP OF
10:42:08AM THE LONGEST BRANCH KNOWN AS THE DRIP LINE.
10:42:11AM THE POTENTIAL LOSS TO THE TREES IS INCALCULABLE.
10:42:14AM SO THESE TREES ALSO, OF COURSE, REMOVE A LOT OF WATER WHICH
10:42:23AM IS WHAT WE NEED WITH THEIR ROOT SYSTEM AND PUTTING THESE

10:42:29AM LARGE PIPES ON SUCH SMALL STREETS WILL NOT ONLY CREATE
10:42:34AM ACCESS DIFFICULTY FOR RESIDENTS AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE
10:42:38AM INTEGRITY OF THE OLDER WOODEN HOUSES, BUT PUTTING IN THE
10:42:41AM PIPES WILL DESTROY THE ROOTS OF THE GRAND LIVE OAKS IN THESE
10:42:45AM STREETS.
10:42:45AM DESPITE THE LARGE DECLINE IN TAMPA'S CANOPY NOTED IN THE
10:42:49AM LAST IS I SURVEY, REMOVAL OF THE GRAND OAKS HAS CONTINUED TO
10:42:54AM CAUSE LOSSES OF THE TREES.
10:42:56AM NOW WITH THE LARGE NUMBER OF TREES DECIMATED IN THE LAST
10:43:04AM MONTH STORMS MAKING, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THE LIVE OAKS IN
10:43:07AM THE AREA ARE PRESERVED.
10:43:09AM FOR ALL THESE REASONS AND MORE, I AM REQUESTING THAT OTHER
10:43:12AM LESS DESTRUCTIVE AND MORE DIRECT ROUTES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED
10:43:16AM FOR THESE PIPES.
10:43:18AM ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE CITY TREE SURVEY RECENTLY SAID, IN
10:43:22AM MY HUMBLE OPINION, ANY LARGE OAK THAT SURVIVED THE STORM
10:43:26AM SHOULD BE GIVEN AN AWARD AND PROTECTED IN PERPETUITY.
10:43:29AM FIND AN ALTERNATE ROUTE FOR THE STORMWATER PIPES.
10:43:35AM PLEASE SAVE THE LIVE OAKS IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:43:38AM THANK YOU.
10:43:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:43:39AM MATTHEW BATTAGLIA IS NEXT.
10:43:43AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:43:44AM PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
10:43:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:43:46AM MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
10:43:51AM >> MATTHEW BATTAGLIA.
10:43:52AM 2504 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
10:43:54AM MOVED THERE A FEW YEARS AGO TO GROW MY FAMILY AND MAKE
10:43:58AM LIFELONG MEMORIES.
10:43:59AM I'M A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
10:44:03AM I KNOW YOU RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM THEM.
10:44:05AM I WANT TO BE CLEAR AND ON THE RECORD THAT THEY DO NOT SPEAK
10:44:07AM FOR EVERYONE IN THE GROUP.
10:44:08AM AFTER MY HOUSE, AMONG MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WITH ME TODAY
10:44:11AM WERE FLOODED, NOBODY FROM THE GROUP CAME TO CHECK ON US OR
10:44:15AM ASK OUR INPUT.
10:44:16AM VERY CLEAR, THEY DO NOT REPRESENT THE ENTIRE GROUP AS A
10:44:19AM WHOLE.
10:44:19AM I'M IN FAVOR OF STARTING SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF -- FLOOD RELIEF
10:44:23AM PROJECT IMMEDIATELY.
10:44:24AM IT IS NOT THE FACT THAT I RUN TWO BUSINESSES OUT OF MY HOME
10:44:27AM AND INCOME HAS BEEN IMPACTED THERE.
10:44:29AM NOT THE FACT THAT MY WIFE RUNS A BUSINESS OUT OF OUR HOME.
10:44:32AM IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT MY FLOOR IS GETTING REDONE AS WE
10:44:35AM SPEAK AND MY LIFE IS DEALING WITH A NUMBER OF CONTRACTORS
10:44:38AM AND LOUD NOISES AND TWO CHILDREN BEING IMPACTED BY THAT
10:44:41AM QUITE A BIT.
10:44:41AM THAT IS A SMALL DEAL THING IN THE REAL GRAND SCHEME.
10:44:44AM I'M LUCKY TO HAVE MY SECOND DAUGHTER BECAUSE SHE WAS BORN ON

10:44:49AM JUNE 18 THIS YEAR.
10:44:50AM EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT WENT BY WE HAD A RAINSTORM, WATER
10:44:53AM WOULD GO ANYWHERE FROM MY GARAGE AND FRONT STEPS OR HALFWAY
10:44:56AM UP MY DRIVEWAY.
10:44:58AM FIVE CARS FLOODED OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAT I WAS HOME
10:45:01AM FOR THIS SUMMER.
10:45:02AM THIS IS NOT A HURRICANE MILTON THING.
10:45:04AM NOT A HURRICANE HELENE THING.
10:45:06AM THIS IS AN EVERYDAY THING FOR US AS FLORIDA NATIVES.
10:45:09AM IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THAT WE HAVE THAT MUCH WATER AT OUR
10:45:11AM HOUSE.
10:45:11AM WE ARE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
10:45:13AM THIS STUFF IS COMING UP ALL OVER THE PLACE.
10:45:15AM THANK GOD DIDN'T RAIN ON JUNE 18 OR ELSE I WOULDN'T HAVE
10:45:18AM GOTTEN TO THE HOSPITAL.
10:45:19AM QUITE SIMPLE.
10:45:21AM THE LADY BEFORE ME, I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR TREES, I CARE
10:45:24AM ABOUT A MEDICAL EVENT IMPACTING ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS AND NOT
10:45:27AM GETTING THE ATTENTION THEY NEED.
10:45:28AM IF THERE IS A FIRE, GOD FORBID, NO EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN
10:45:33AM GET DOWN OUR STREET.
10:45:35AM IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
10:45:36AM IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
10:45:37AM YOU KNOW WHAT, THE TREES ARE THE LITTLE DEAL THING.
10:45:39AM THE LIVES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY COMMUNITY IS THE THING I

10:45:43AM CARE ABOUT, NOT THE TREES.
10:45:45AM THE LAST THING I'LL KIND OF REALLY SAY HERE, THERE'S NO
10:45:49AM REASON THIS IS GOING TO TAKE SIX YEARS OR FIVE YEARS.
10:45:51AM I HEARD A LOT OF STUFF.
10:45:53AM IF THERE IS A PROBLEM, YOU SOLVE IT.
10:45:54AM IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
10:45:56AM THERE HAS TO BE A SOLUTION IN PLACE BEFORE NEXT SUMMER.
10:45:59AM EVERY DOLLAR I'M SPENDING OUT OF POCKET BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
10:46:02AM FLOOD INSURANCE BECAUSE I'M IN FLOOD ZONE X IS GOING TO BE
10:46:05AM FOR NAUGHT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE -- OR A SOLUTION IN
10:46:08AM PLACE AND THIS THING RESOLVED BY NEXT SUMMER.
10:46:11AM LASTLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO COUNCILMAN
10:46:13AM CARLSON.
10:46:14AM IN OUR LAST E-MAIL THREAD, YOU HAD SAID THERE'S NO PROOF OF
10:46:19AM CATEGORY 3 SEWAGE WATER IN -- THAT FLOODED OUT OUR
10:46:23AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:46:24AM I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO BRING MY WIFE'S TOTALED CAR OR PAIR OF
10:46:27AM MY DAUGHTER'S SCHOOL SHOES HERE BUT THE FESTERING WHO KNOWS
10:46:31AM WHAT THAT WAS GROWING IN THE ITEMS KIND OF PREVENTED ME FROM
10:46:34AM BRINGING THEM HERE TODAY.
10:46:35AM I GUARANTEE IF NOTHING GETS DONE, COME ON DOWN AND TAKE A
10:46:40AM SWIM IN MY FRONT YARD BECAUSE IT WILL BE THERE AGAIN.
10:46:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:46:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:46:46AM PRIANKA GERRISH.

10:46:55AM TINA ADAMS.
10:46:56AM MILA GERRISH.
10:46:59AM >> HELLO.
10:46:59AM MY NAME IS PRIANKA GERRISH.
10:46:59AM I LIVE AT 2502 WEST PARKLAND BOULEVARD.
10:47:02AM I AM IN FLOOD ZONE X.
10:47:05AM MY HOME FLOODED.
10:47:07AM OUR ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR WAS TOUCHED.
10:47:09AM UNTIL YOU FLOODED AND HAVE WATER TOUCH EVERYTHING THAT YOU
10:47:13AM OWN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU LOVE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU BUILT,
10:47:15AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU WORKED SO HARD FOR, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
10:47:18AM TO EXPLAIN THE PRESSING URGENCY THAT WE HAVE TO WANT TO FIX
10:47:23AM THIS.
10:47:23AM I AM PRO STARTING THE SOUTH HOWARD RELIEF FLOOD PROJECT.
10:47:28AM I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF PARKLAND ESTATES CIVICS CLUB AND THEY
10:47:32AM DO NOT REPRESENT MY OPINION.
10:47:34AM WE HAVE MANY NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN IN A SIMILAR SITUATION,
10:47:37AM AND I WANTED TO PRESENT A LITTLE PIECE THAT THE NEWS CAME
10:47:43AM AND DID FOR US.
10:47:45AM HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR IT.
10:47:51AM >> RECORDING: DAVID ADAMS IS CLEANING UP AFTER HURRICANE
10:47:56AM MILTON FLOODED HIS HOME IN PARKLAND ESTATES IN TAMPA.
10:47:58AM HIS POSSESSIONS ON THE CURB, HIS NEIGHBORS SHARE A SIMILAR
10:48:01AM STORY.
10:48:04AM >> THE FEAR OF DOING ALL THIS AND PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER

10:48:06AM AND HAVING IT FLOOD NEXT HURRICANE SEASON OR EVEN IN
10:48:09AM RAINSTORMS WE HAVE FLOODING, IT'S REALLY UNEASY AND VERY
10:48:14AM EMOTIONAL CHALLENGING.
10:48:15AM >> THE FAMILY LIVES ACROSS THE STREET.
10:48:17AM BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
10:48:19AM TOOK CELL PHONE VIDEOS OF WATER IN THE STREET AND INTO THEIR
10:48:24AM HOME DURING MILTON.
10:48:25AM NOW FORCED TO START OVER.
10:48:27AM >> BASE BOARDS RIPPED UP, DRYWALL, LOST WEDDING PHOTOS, LOTS
10:48:32AM OF PERSONAL ITEMS, GARAGE AND FIRST FLOOR.
10:48:35AM >> NEIGHBORS SAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD FLOODED NUMEROUS TIMES IN
10:48:38AM THE PAST AND FLOODING IS AN ISSUE RELATED TO THE CITY'S
10:48:41AM STORMWATER SYSTEM.
10:48:42AM ADAMS CREATED A WEBSITE CALLED STOP FLOODING IN PARKLAND
10:48:45AM ESTATES.
10:48:46AM >> IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE CAPACITY OF THE WATER,
10:48:49AM WHICH HAS BEEN STUDYING FOR NINE YEARS, THESE HOUSES WILL
10:48:52AM CONTINUE TO FLOOD.
10:48:53AM >> MAP ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WEBSITE SHOWS PLANNING FOR THE
10:48:56AM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
10:48:58AM IT INVOLVES DESIGNING AND BUILDING A MAJOR STORMWATER
10:49:00AM CONVEYANCE SYSTEM TO IMPROVE DRAINAGE AND REDUCE FLOODING
10:49:04AM ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE AND ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS,
10:49:06AM INCLUDING PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:49:08AM A CITY SPOKESPERSON SAYS THE PROJECT IS ON PAUSE AFTER

10:49:11AM PUSH-BACK FROM BUSINESS OWNERS WORRIED ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
10:49:14AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS EXPECTED TO DISCUSS THE TOPIC ON
10:49:17AM NOVEMBER 7.
10:49:20AM >> I WOULD NOT WISH THIS ON MY WORST ENEMY.
10:49:22AM I THINK THAT THE CITY DOES NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
10:49:24AM MANY OF US, ALL OF US ARE IN FLOOD ZONE X, EVACUATION ZONE
10:49:28AM C.
10:49:29AM >> SIGNS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENCOURAGE SUPPORT FOR THE
10:49:31AM PROJECT.
10:49:32AM NEIGHBORS HAD THEIR HOMES DESTROYED IN JUST HOURS.
10:49:35AM AND IF THEY CLEAN UP, THEY ARE WORRIED ANOTHER STORM MAY
10:49:39AM THREATEN THEIR HOUSES ONCE AGAIN.
10:49:42AM ABC ACTION NEWS.
10:49:44AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.
10:49:45AM I'M ALSO A TREE LOVER, GARDENER, I LOVE SPENDING TIME
10:49:48AM OUTSIDE.
10:49:49AM I'M PART OF THE TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
10:49:53AM I'VE BEEN NURTURING A TREE THAT'S BEEN KNOCKED DOWN TWICE.
10:49:55AM OUR TREES ARE GOING TO GET WATERLOGGED FROM A SIMPLE
10:49:59AM RAINFALL.
10:49:59AM ANY RAIN SHOWER OVER THE SUMMER IS GOING TO START FLOODING
10:50:02AM AND FLOODING AND FLOODING.
10:50:03AM THEY GET WATERLOGGED, ROTTED, THEY FALL.
10:50:06AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:50:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

10:50:08AM NEXT UP WE HAVE TINA ADAMS, MILA GERRISH AND ELLA GERRISH.
10:50:16AM I COULDN'T HEAR BECAUSE OF THE CLAPPING.
10:50:18AM IF WE COULD REFRAIN FROM CLAPPING.
10:50:19AM TINA ADAMS, MILA, ELLA.
10:50:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:50:25AM MY NAME IS TINA ADAMS.
10:50:27AM I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:50:28AM I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL THAT HAVE COME OUT AND
10:50:33AM VISITED MY HOME AND OTHER HOMES AND BEEN SO NICE.
10:50:37AM I AM A MEMBER OF PECC, BUT THIS WILL BE MY LAST YEAR.
10:50:42AM I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD.
10:50:43AM MY HUSBAND HAS BEEN PRESIDENT NUMEROUS TIMES.
10:50:46AM THEY NO LONGER REPRESENT MY INTERESTS, THE BEST INTERESTS OF
10:50:50AM MY HOME, AND I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT ANYMORE.
10:50:53AM I SUPPORT THE DESIGN-BUILD PROCESS.
10:51:01AM I HAVE FAITH AND I TRUST THAT ENGINEERS AND THE
10:51:04AM PROFESSIONALS THAT YOU ALL HAVE EMPLOYED AND HIRED TO LOOK
10:51:08AM INTO THIS FOR NINE YEARS AND TO RESEARCH THIS AND TO DEVELOP
10:51:11AM THE BEST PLAN POSSIBLE.
10:51:14AM THEY HAVE STUDIED THIS FOR OVER TEN YEARS.
10:51:17AM THEY HAVE DONE THESE JOBS BEFORE.
10:51:19AM THIS IS NO TIME FOR AMATEUR HOUR.
10:51:22AM WE NEED WORK.
10:51:24AM WE NEED PROFESSIONALS, WE NEED KNOWLEDGE.
10:51:27AM AND WE NEED TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

10:51:29AM PLEASE LET THE PROFESSIONALS DO WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO
10:51:36AM DO.
10:51:36AM STOP THE NEEDLESS FLOODING BECAUSE OUR STORMWATER SYSTEM IS
10:51:43AM OVERBURDENED, INADEQUATE AND OUTDATED.
10:51:45AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SOME THINGS I DON'T
10:51:51AM UNDERSTAND.
10:51:51AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HELP ME WITH THIS OR NOT.
10:51:54AM WHY IS A GROUP OF APPROXIMATELY 26 BUSINESSES, THE SOHO
10:51:59AM BUSINESS ALLIANCE, ENTITLED TO YOUR HELP AND PROTECTION WHEN
10:52:03AM HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES AND SMALL BUSINESSES WHO ARE UNDERGOING
10:52:09AM DEVASTATING LOSSES, PHYSICIANS' OFFICES, WORKOUT GYMS, NAIL
10:52:15AM SALONS, HAIR SALONS, DEVASTATING LOSSES.
10:52:22AM THOSE 26 BUSINESSES WON'T BE INCONVENIENCED?
10:52:25AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
10:52:28AM WHY HAS THIS PROBLEM BEEN STUDIED FOR TEN YEARS?
10:52:32AM AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE THERE.
10:52:34AM THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE SAID, THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:52:37AM THIS IS THE PROBLEM, THIS IS HOW WE SOLVE IT.
10:52:39AM WHY AREN'T WE DOING IT?
10:52:42AM ALL THAT'S NEEDED IS TO START DIGGING.
10:52:48AM WHY AREN'T WE DIGGING?
10:52:49AM WHY AREN'T WE DOING THIS?
10:52:51AM WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS?
10:52:53AM WHY ISN'T THIS PROJECT ALREADY STARTED?
10:52:57AM YOU GUYS HAVE THE POWER AND THE MEANS TO DO THIS.

10:53:00AM PLEASE, VOTE FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
10:53:03AM MAKE THIS AN EMERGENCY PROCUREMENT.
10:53:05AM IT MAY NOT BE AN EMERGENCY TO THE PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES THAT
10:53:08AM DIDN'T FLOOD, BUT IT IS TO THE REST OF US.
10:53:12AM IT IS.
10:53:12AM IT IS TO THE SCHOOL ON SWANN AVENUE, TO THE CHURCH ON SWANN
10:53:18AM AVENUE.
10:53:19AM THE LOADS OF SMALL BUSINESSES, THE PHYSICIANS ON SWANN
10:53:24AM AVENUE, THE FAMILIES AND THE PEOPLE IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND
10:53:27AM THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:53:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:53:31AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:53:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MILA GERRISH, ELLA GERRISH, DAVID ADAMS.
10:53:39AM YES, MA'AM.
10:53:40AM GOOD MORNING.
10:53:40AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:44AM >> MY NAME IS MILA GERRISH.
10:53:46AM I'M 13 YEARS OLD AND I GO TO WILSON MIDDLE SCHOOL.
10:53:50AM I ALSO LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:53:51AM MY GOAL TODAY IS TO SEE IF THE GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY CARES.
10:53:55AM MY FAMILY AND I DECIDED TO STAY HOME FOR HURRICANE MILTON
10:53:59AM BECAUSE WE WEREN'T IN A FLOOD ZONE, OR SO WE THOUGHT.
10:54:02AM AT AROUND 9 P.M. THE WATER LEVELS WERE RISING RAPIDLY AND I
10:54:06AM WATCHED AS MY PARENTS PANICKED AND HAD TO MAKE QUICK
10:54:10AM DECISIONS.

10:54:10AM WHEN THE WATER REACHED OUR HOME, WE WERE ALL ON OUR HANDS
10:54:13AM AND KNEES WITH TOWELS.
10:54:15AM OUR ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR FLOODED.
10:54:18AM CLEANING UP IS GOING TO BE A LONG, STRESSFUL ROAD.
10:54:22AM IMAGINE IT HAPPENS EVERY SINGLE TIME IT RAINS.
10:54:25AM OUR STORMWATER PIPES DON'T WORK.
10:54:27AM WE NEED THE CITY TO FIX THIS.
10:54:29AM OUR DREAM HOME WE BUILT TWO YEARS AGO IS NOW A MESS.
10:54:33AM I ASK THAT THE CITY MOVES FORWARD WITH THE SOUTH HOWARD
10:54:36AM FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT TO SAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:54:38AM LASTLY, PECC DOES NOT REPRESENT ME.
10:54:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:54:45AM ALL RIGHT.
10:54:49AM I ALSO HAVE A 13-YEAR-OLD NAMED MILA AT HOME, TOO.
10:54:53AM GOOD TO SEE ANOTHER MILA.
10:54:55AM ELLA GERRISH, DAVID ADAMS, AND PATRICK CIMINO.
10:55:00AM >> HI.
10:55:00AM MY NAME IS ELLA GERRISH.
10:55:02AM I'M 14 AND GO TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
10:55:04AM ON OCTOBER 9, HURRICANE MILTON ATTACKED THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:55:08AM AND DESTROYED MY FAMILY'S PRIDE AND POSSESSION, OUR HOME.
10:55:11AM THE RESOURCES I HAD MY WHOLE LIFE RIPPED OUT OF MY HANDS.
10:55:15AM SEEING MY PARENTS NOT BEING ABLE TO PROTECT ME AND MY
10:55:17AM SIBLINGS FROM THE OUTCOME OF THE STORM WORRIED ME.

10:55:20AM I STARTED TO THINK IF I'M NOT SAFE NOW IN MY OWN HOME, WHAT
10:55:24AM WILL BECOME OF ME AND MY FAMILY THE NEXT TIME AN EVENT
10:55:27AM OCCURS.
10:55:28AM REGULAR RAINSTORMS POSE A THREAT TO OUR SAFETY.
10:55:31AM OVER 15 YEARS, CITY OF TAMPA HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE PROBLEM.
10:55:34AM IT MAY NOT BE MY FAMILY'S CONTROL BUT IT IS 100% WITHIN THE
10:55:37AM CITY'S CONTROL.
10:55:38AM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT IS THE SOLUTION.
10:55:40AM I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LET THE ENGINEERS DO THEIR JOBS.
10:55:44AM TRAGIC EVENTS LIKE THIS PUT MULTIPLE THINGS IN PERSPECTIVE
10:55:46AM FOR ME.
10:55:47AM I DON'T WISH TO BE AFRAID EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
10:55:50AM PLEASE, HELP US DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:55:51AM THANK YOU.
10:55:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:55:55AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:55:55AM DAVID ADAMS, PATRICK CIMINO, JOHN SIMON.
10:56:01AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:56:04AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:56:05AM >> DAVID ADAMS.
10:56:07AM I HAVE A VIDEO TO PLAY.
10:56:10AM >> FOUNTAIN BOULEVARD AND PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:56:12AM TOWN HOUSE IN PALMA CEIA PINES THAT FLOODED AND A STORAGE
10:56:15AM UNIT IN PALMA CEIA PINES THAT FLOODED.
10:56:18AM I HAVE THREE VERY GOOD REASONS TO BE ANGRY AT THE CITY AND

10:56:20AM THE CITY COUNCIL BUT I'M A LAWYER BY TRADE AND I DON'T WIN
10:56:22AM MY CASES WITH ANGER.
10:56:24AM I WIN MY CASES WITH EVIDENCE.
10:56:26AM I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT I CAN IN THE NEXT TWO MINUTES.
10:56:29AM THIS IS THE DEVASTATION OF THE FLOODING IN HURRICANE MILTON.
10:56:32AM IT IS ONE THING TO SEE THE WATER OUTSIDE BUT THIS IS WHAT IT
10:56:35AM LOOKED LIKE INSIDE OUR HOMES.
10:56:36AM AND THIS IS THE AFTERMATH.
10:56:38AM PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT THE CURB.
10:56:39AM THE ENVIRONMENTAL DISASTER OF DISPOSING OF ALL THE WASTE
10:56:43AM SHOULD BE OBVIOUS.
10:56:44AM FINANCIAL DISASTER EQUALLY COMPELLING.
10:56:47AM NOT AWARE OF ANYBODY AT THE CITY ESTIMATING THE COST BUT
10:56:53AM EASILY IN THE MILLIONS.
10:56:54AM 146 HOMES IN PALMA CEIA PINES WERE FLOODED WITH
10:56:57AM APPROXIMATELY 18 INCHES OF SEWAGE WATER INSIDE THEM.
10:57:00AM 41 HOMES AND ONE CHURCH FLOODED IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:57:04AM 56 BUSINESSES, MOST OF WHICH REMAIN CLOSED TODAY FLOODED IN
10:57:08AM PALMA CEIA PINES.
10:57:09AM ABOUT A THIRD OF THOSE ARE DOCTOR OFFICES WHICH HAD TO
10:57:12AM CANCEL HUNDREDS OF APPOINTMENTS.
10:57:14AM THIS WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME EITHER OF THESE AREAS FLOODED.
10:57:17AM 2015 WITH THE FIRST FLOOD.
10:57:18AM IT WAS WELL COVERED BY THE MEDIA.
10:57:23AM >> A FEW HOURS AGO, THIS INTERSECTION WAS FILLED WITH WATER.

10:57:28AM BASICALLY UP TO JUST ABOUT AS HIGH ABOUT MY KNEE, LITTLE
10:57:32AM HIGHER THAN THAT.
10:57:33AM >> THAT CLIP WAS FILMED AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE MY TOWN
10:57:36AM HOUSE IS LOCATED.
10:57:37AM I HAD NINE INCHES OF WATER.
10:57:38AM SINCE 2015, THE CITY HAS BEEN STUDYING THE PROBLEM BUT TEN
10:57:41AM YEARS LATER YOU STILL HAVE TAKEN NO ACTION.
10:57:43AM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER THAT THINKS YOU HAVE TIME TO CONTINUE
10:57:45AM DELIBERATING, LET ME SHOW YOU A FEW MORE PHOTOS.
10:57:49AM THIS IS SEPTEMBER 4 IN PALMA CEIA PINES.
10:57:51AM NO HURRICANE OR EVEN A TROPICAL DEPRESSION.
10:57:53AM IT WAS JUST A TYPICAL WEDNESDAY SUMMER STORM.
10:57:56AM I HAD WATER IN MY GARAGE.
10:57:57AM SAME GOES IN PARKLAND ESTATES WHERE SUMMER RAINS MADE THE
10:58:00AM STREETS IMPASSABLE TEN TIMES BETWEEN JUNE AND SEPTEMBER.
10:58:03AM I KNOW THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD THAT DO NOT WANT
10:58:06AM THEIR FOOT TRAFFIC REDUCED.
10:58:08AM I UNDERSTAND.
10:58:08AM BUT THOSE 26 BUSINESSES ARE LOOKING AT REDUCED TRAFFIC FOR
10:58:11AM ROUGHLY SIX WEEKS.
10:58:13AM WHAT ABOUT THE 56 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED FOR FOUR
10:58:16AM WEEKS NOW WITH ZERO FOOT TRAFFIC AND THOUSANDS THEY ARE
10:58:18AM HAVING TO SPEND TO REBUILD?
10:58:20AM WHY ARE THE INTERESTS OF 26 BUSINESSES ON HOWARD MORE
10:58:23AM IMPORTANT THAN THE INTEREST OF 56 BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NOW

10:58:26AM FLOODED TWICE?
10:58:27AM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN FUNDED SINCE 2022.
10:58:29AM YOU'VE RECEIVED 31 QUARTERLY REPORTS FROM THE ENGINEERING
10:58:33AM DEPARTMENT.
10:58:33AM THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR FURTHER DELAY.
10:58:35AM YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED.
10:58:39AM THE CITY ENGINEERS HAVE SPENT YEARS COMING UP WITH THE MOST
10:58:41AM COST-EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE WAY TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
10:58:44AM YOU KNOW WHAT THE PUBLIC THINKS.
10:58:46AM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE FLOODED THEIR HOMES AND BUSINESSES WANT
10:58:48AM YOU TO TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION SO IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:58:51AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN VICTIMS OF FLOODING DON'T WANT YOU
10:58:54AM TO TAKE ACTION.
10:58:54AM THE RAINS START AGAIN IN APRIL.
10:58:56AM THERE WILL BE MORE FLOODING.
10:58:58AM IT IS INEVITABLE.
10:58:59AM THE ONLY QUESTION IS, HOW MANY TIMES WILL YOU ALLOW THROUGH
10:59:02AM YOUR INACTION OUR HOMES AND OUR BUSINESSES TO FLOOD BEFORE
10:59:04AM YOU FIX THE PROBLEM?
10:59:06AM THE NUMBER THERE SHOULD BE ZERO.
10:59:09AM PLEASE, APPROVE THE KIMMINS CONTRACT AND MOVE FORWARD
10:59:12AM IMMEDIATELY.
10:59:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:14AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME --
10:59:17AM [ APPLAUSE ]

10:59:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PATRICK CIMINO, JOHN SIMON.
10:59:23AM HOPE I READ THAT CORRECTLY.
10:59:25AM MATT RADECK.
10:59:25AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:59:26AM >> MY NAME IS PATRICK CIMINO.
10:59:29AM CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
10:59:32AM LAND USE COMMITTEE.
10:59:33AM I'M HERE TO APPEAL TO YOU ALL TO PLEASE HOLD MOBILITY IN THE
10:59:39AM CITY ACCOUNTABLE FOR INFORMATION THEY ARE PROVIDING ABOUT
10:59:42AM THE HOWARD RELIEF PROJECT.
10:59:44AM THESE ARE HORRIBLE STORIES.
10:59:46AM MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN FLOODED, TOO, IN HYDE PARK.
10:59:48AM WE'VE HAD UNPRECEDENTED RAIN.
10:59:50AM SOME OF IT IS CHRONIC, SOME OF IT NOT.
10:59:53AM HOWEVER, THE 25-YEAR-OLD PROPOSAL ON THE TABLE, THEY HAVE
10:59:57AM NOT CLEARLY STATED A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT FACTS.
11:00:01AM ONE BEING THEY ARE FUNNELING WATER FOR A HUGE AREA WEST OF
11:00:05AM MacDILL NORTH TO KENNEDY OVER TO THE SELMON INTO HOWARD
11:00:09AM AND INCLUDING THE SELMON AND THAT WILL END UP AT HOWARD AND
11:00:12AM BAYSHORE.
11:00:13AM WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE KING TIDE?
11:00:14AM WHAT HAPPENS WITH STORM SURGE?
11:00:17AM THAT WATER WILL BACK UP INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN BAYSHORE
11:00:20AM GARDENS.
11:00:21AM SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY HAS TO BE DONE, BUT LET'S NOT MAKE THE

11:00:25AM MEDICINE WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.
11:00:26AM ANOTHER ISSUE -- AND I'LL POINT TO A PROJECT THAT'S 50 YEARS
11:00:32AM OLD IN FOREST HILLS, FLOODING 50 YEARS AGO.
11:00:33AM THEY PUT INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD AREA THAT
11:00:38AM HAS NOW FLOODED CHRONICALLY FOR YEARS AND HORRIBLY FLOODED
11:00:42AM DURING MILTON.
11:00:43AM AGAIN, CAN'T MAKE THE MEDICINE.
11:00:45AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
11:00:47AM FORTHCOMING, MOBILITY AND ADMINISTRATION HAVE NOT BEEN
11:00:49AM FORTHCOMING.
11:00:50AM OTHER WATER MANAGEMENT WE NEED TO KNOW, TWO PROJECTS WITH
11:00:55AM ELEVATOR SHAFTS.
11:00:56AM THEY HAD TO PUMP WATER FOR SIX MONTHS DOWN HOWARD AND
11:01:00AM DE SOTO IN FRONT OF NEIGHBORS' HOUSES.
11:01:02AM THOSE ARE LITTLE TINY PROJECTS.
11:01:04AM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MASSIVE WATER INTRUSION ALONG HOWARD.
11:01:08AM WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO WITH WATER?
11:01:10AM WE JUST WANT ANSWERS.
11:01:13AM THAT WILL GO INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:01:14AM YEAH, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TODAY BUT IT MAY WELL BE A PROBLEM.
11:01:17AM WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT HISTORIC ASSETS.
11:01:21AM BERN'S, BERN'S CELLAR, BAYSHORE ROYAL, BRISTOL.
11:01:26AM WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY FIRM REASSURANCES ABOUT ANY OF THOSE.
11:01:30AM WORRIED ABOUT DETOURING.
11:01:32AM NO SPECIFICS ABOUT THAT.

11:01:34AM FINALLY, FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.
11:01:35AM WE'RE VERY WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
11:01:37AM IF THE PRECEDENT OF FINANCIAL -- THIS IS A NO-BID CONTRACT.
11:01:42AM IF THE PRECEDENT FOR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT IS HANNA, THIS HAS
11:01:46AM 70 PLUS WHATEVER MILLION DOLLARS, YOU BETTER BUDGET OVER
11:01:49AM $200 MILLION BECAUSE THAT'S HOW MUCH RAN OVER AT HANNA.
11:01:53AM WE NEED GOOD STEWARDSHIP.
11:01:55AM WE NEED SOLUTIONS, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE THE RIGHT SOLUTIONS.
11:01:59AM THEY CANNOT CAUSE NEGATIVE IMPACTS DOWN STREAM TO OTHER
11:02:04AM PEOPLE AND WE'RE NOT CONVINCED.
11:02:06AM ACCOUNTABILITY, TRANSPARENCY.
11:02:08AM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FROM MOBILITY AND THE CITY AND THE
11:02:12AM ENGINEER.
11:02:13AM WE'VE NOT GOTTEN IT.
11:02:14AM EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A 25-YEAR-OLD PROJECT.
11:02:17AM THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF TIME BUT NOT A LOT OF INFORMATION
11:02:19AM LATELY.
11:02:19AM SO I THANK YOU.
11:02:21AM I BEG YOU TO BE SCRUTINIZING FOR US.
11:02:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:27AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:02:27AM JOHN SIMON.
11:02:31AM MATT RADECK AND YVONNE FERRELLI.
11:02:35AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:02:37AM >> JOHN B. SIMON JUNIOR.

11:02:39AM 2614 WEST PARKLAND.
11:02:42AM I'VE LIVED THERE 33 YEARS.
11:02:44AM I WAS THERE IN 29 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CITY PUT THE STORM
11:02:51AM SEWER IN TO FIX THE PROBLEM IN PARKLAND.
11:02:54AM IT WAS GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATED.
11:02:56AM THE CITY CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM AND THEY CAN FIX IT EASILY
11:03:02AM WITH THEIR STAFF.
11:03:02AM BRAD BAIRD, WHO IS AN EXCELLENT GUY AND I'M SURE ALL OF YOU
11:03:06AM KNOW HIM, JUST COMPLETED THE INCINERATOR WHICH WAS A HUNDRED
11:03:10AM MILLION IN A HUNDRED DAYS.
11:03:12AM SO A PROJECT OF 60 MILLION, BRAD IS MORE THAN CAPABLE.
11:03:16AM YOU HAVE TWO ENGINEERS ON YOUR STAFF, JEFF DeBOSE, YVETTE
11:03:20AM PALERO.
11:03:21AM I TALKED TO THEM ABOUT 20 YEARS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND DOING
11:03:24AM IT.
11:03:25AM THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
11:03:27AM EXCELLENT GUY WITH PJ CALLOWAY THAT CAN HANDLE THE
11:03:30AM CONSTRUCTION.
11:03:31AM I DON'T WANT ANY OF THIS WORK, BUT THE CITY HAS THE
11:03:36AM RESOURCES AND THE ABILITY TO DO THIS.
11:03:38AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL BRAD, YOU NEED TO GET THIS JOB
11:03:41AM DONE AND YOU NEED TO GET IT DONE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND
11:03:44AM LET HIM WORK.
11:03:45AM HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
11:03:46AM VERY COMPETENT.

11:03:47AM I'VE WORKED WITH HIM ON NUMEROUS PROJECTS.
11:03:49AM AND ON THESE BIG PROJECTS, WE DID THE WEST RIVER.
11:03:53AM IT WAS A MAJOR PROJECT.
11:03:54AM THE CITY DIVIDED IT INTO FOUR PARTS, GOT FOUR CONTRACTORS.
11:03:58AM YOU CAN EASILY TELL KIMMINS NEED A COUPLE MORE CONTRACTORS.
11:04:04AM HE CAN TAKE THEM FROM BAYSHORE TO THE CROSSTOWN, FROM THE
11:04:07AM CROSSTOWN TO MORRISON AND BRISTOL AND THEN ANOTHER
11:04:11AM CONTRACTOR FROM THERE TAKING IT UP SWANN.
11:04:13AM THIS STORM SEWER WILL NOT CHANGE THE EXISTING STORM.
11:04:18AM THIS WILL BE AN ADDITIONAL STORM SYSTEM THAT THE CITY WILL
11:04:22AM HAVE.
11:04:22AM THEY HAVE THE EXISTING.
11:04:23AM THIS WILL ALMOST TRIPLE THE SIZE OF THE STORM SYSTEM.
11:04:28AM IT WILL HELP THE AREAS WEST OF MacDILL.
11:04:31AM IT WILL HELP THE AREAS EAST OF HOWARD.
11:04:33AM IT WILL HELP THE AREAS WAY NORTH OF SWANN.
11:04:37AM THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL STORM SEWER SYSTEM.
11:04:40AM YOU GUYS CAN GET THIS DONE NOW.
11:04:42AM IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED.
11:04:45AM THE TREES ON BRISTOL.
11:04:47AM SO TIRED ABOUT HEARING ABOUT BRISTOL.
11:04:49AM BRISTOL DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A STORM SEWER.
11:04:52AM FROM THE CORNER OF BRISTOL AND MORRISON, THE WATER SURFACE
11:04:55AM DRAINS DOWN TO LAKEVIEW.
11:04:57AM BECAUSE IT COMES SO FAST, NO DRAINAGE ON BRISTOL, BUT IN

11:05:00AM SOME APARTMENT COMPLEX THEY HAVE A SMALL INLET.
11:05:03AM THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX.
11:05:05AM THAT WATER COMES DOWN LAKEVIEW AND THEN GOES NORTH LAKEVIEW
11:05:08AM TO PARKLAND AND IT JUST CREATES THE FLOODING.
11:05:11AM IT GOES RIGHT OVER THE DRAINS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM FILLS UP.
11:05:15AM AS I GAVE YOU THE BOOK OF THE PICTURES, THAT'S TEN FLOODS.
11:05:21AM AND OF THOSE TEN FLOODS, SIX OF THEM WERE LESS THAN AN INCH
11:05:24AM OF RAIN.
11:05:26AM NOT EVERYONE KNOWS, THERE ISN'T A HOUSE IN PARKLAND THAT'S
11:05:29AM LOWER THAN THE ELEVATION OF 18.
11:05:32AM IF THE WATER WAS 18 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HALF THE CITY, ALL
11:05:37AM DOWNTOWN WOULD BE GONE.
11:05:38AM WESTSHORE, BAYSHORE, HYDE PARK, THEY WOULD ALL BE GONE.
11:05:42AM THIS AREA HAS BEEN BOXED IN.
11:05:44AM IT'S BOXED IN FROM THE CROSSTOWN, THE RAILROAD AND ALSO THE
11:05:49AM OTHER PROJECTS.
11:05:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:05:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:05:50AM MATT RADECK.
11:06:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:06:02AM MY NAME IS MATT RADECK.
11:06:05AM I AM DISCUSSING ITEM 61, THE PROPOSED EAST YBOR BROWNFIELD
11:06:09AM DESIGNATION AREA.
11:06:11AM NOW, I'M A PROPERTY OWNER DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO THE
11:06:15AM BROWNFIELD AREA.

11:06:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT, SIR.
11:06:18AM IS THAT A PUBLIC HEARING?
11:06:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM 61 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:06:29AM IT WILL BE TAKEN UP LATER ON THIS AFTERNOON, SIR.
11:06:32AM >> SO I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT NOW?
11:06:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF HE SPEAKS NOW, HE WON'T BE ABLE TO
11:06:38AM TALK ABOUT IT THEN, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:06:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER?
11:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT DOESN'T SAY.
11:06:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
11:06:44AM IT'S VACATE.
11:06:45AM AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:06:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE HERE NOW, SPEAK NOW.
11:06:49AM >> I'LL WAIT FOR ITEM 61.
11:06:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE AFTER LUNCH.
11:06:52AM SO IF YOU'RE HERE AND WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT KEEP GOING.
11:07:00AM I'M SORRY, SIR.
11:07:02AM >> MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE.
11:07:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD SO WE CAN SEE IT.
11:07:12AM >> HERE IS THE PROPOSED DESIGNATED AREA.
11:07:15AM MINE IS RIGHT THERE.
11:07:17AM AS PROPERTY OWNERS RIGHT THERE, WHY DO WE NOT GET NOTICE OF
11:07:23AM THIS PROPOSED BROWNFIELD?
11:07:25AM CHAPTER 37680 OF FLORIDA STATUTES SUPPOSED TO GIVE PROPERTY
11:07:31AM OWNERS WITHIN THE AFFECTED AREA CERTAIN RIGHTS.

11:07:33AM WHY AM I NOT AFFORDED THOSE RIGHTS?
11:07:35AM THE U.S. POSTAL SERVICE IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US NOTICE,
11:07:41AM ANYONE WHO IS AFFECTED WITHIN 300 FEET.
11:07:43AM WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED.
11:07:45AM HOW MANY MORE OTHERS WERE NOT NOTIFIED?
11:07:48AM THE POSTED SIGN WAS WAY OFF THE ROAD, OBSCURED BY WEEDS AND
11:07:53AM NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH TAMPA'S NOTICE SIGN.
11:07:55AM IT HAD NO PHONE NUMBER, NO CASE OR FILE NUMBER AND NO QR
11:07:59AM CODE.
11:07:59AM GIVEN THESE DISCREPANCIES I PROPOSE A WHOLE NOTICE OF PUBLIC
11:08:04AM PERIOD BE STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN, PROPERLY AND LEGALLY TO
11:08:07AM GIVE THE AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS AND AREA RESIDENTS THE
11:08:10AM INFORMATION AND RESPECT THEY NEED AND DESERVE TO RESEARCH
11:08:14AM THIS AND SEE HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY.
11:08:17AM JUST WHY DID THE CITY DECIDE TO TEST FOR CONTAMINATION OF
11:08:21AM THIS VACANT LOT?
11:08:22AM WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THIS LOT?
11:08:25AM INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS EVER OPERATED THERE?
11:08:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, FORGIVE ME FOR
11:08:32AM INTERRUPTING, SIR.
11:08:33AM BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR OR WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, SIR, IS
11:08:39AM A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION OF ADEQUATE LEGAL NOTICE.
11:08:43AM THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:08:45AM MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE FOR YOU TO STAY IF YOU'RE ABLE TO
11:08:49AM BECAUSE THE ATTORNEYS ARE NOT HERE.

11:08:51AM THE STAFF IS NOT HERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS,
11:08:54AM BUT THAT IS THE THRESHOLD QUESTION.
11:08:56AM IF SOMETHING IS NOT ADEQUATELY NOTICED, A HEARING CANNOT GO
11:09:01AM FORWARD.
11:09:01AM SO WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT INITIALLY, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT
11:09:04AM HERE TO EXPLAIN IT AND IF THEY ARE NOT HERE TO RESPOND, THEN
11:09:07AM WE CAN'T DO THAT.
11:09:08AM I'LL ASK THAT THIS MATTER BE HELD AND I'LL ASK YOU TO --
11:09:12AM ALLOW YOU TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC
11:09:15AM HEARING.
11:09:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
11:09:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:09:17AM WE'LL HAVE THE HEARING LATER THIS AFTERNOON, SIR.
11:09:20AM WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.
11:09:22AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
11:09:24AM WHAT TIME SHOULD I COME BACK?
11:09:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER 1:30, 2:00.
11:09:28AM >> OKAY.
11:09:29AM I'LL BE HERE.
11:09:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:09:31AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
11:09:32AM YVONNE FERRELLI, MIKE BARNA AND MARILYN SAMAHA.
11:09:39AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:09:44AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:09:44AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.

11:10:32AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WE'LL START THE CLOCK.
11:10:34AM >> YVONNE FERRELLI.
11:10:36AM I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:10:37AM I HANDED YOU ALL BINDERS.
11:10:40AM I AM GOING DIRECTLY TO DOCUMENT THREE, WHICH IS THE FLOODING
11:10:46AM THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THIS MAP HERE ON THE STAGE HERE.
11:10:50AM THAT MAP WAS CREATED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO REFLECT A
11:10:56AM TYPE OF FLOODING THAT WOULD OCCUR AFTER THE SOUTH HOWARD
11:11:00AM PROJECT STORM SYSTEM HAD BEEN INSTALLED IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:11:05AM SO THIS MAP REFLECTS FLOODING THAT WOULD OCCUR IN A
11:11:11AM SUBSTANTIAL STORM LESS THAN MILTON, AND IT INCLUDES FLOODING
11:11:15AM UP IN PALMA CEIA PINES AND PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:11:19AM IT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF FLOODING THAT OCCURRED
11:11:23AM DURING MILTON IN THIS AREA, SO WE KNOW THAT EVEN IF THAT
11:11:25AM PROJECT HAD BEEN INSTALLED IT WOULD NOT HAVE HELPED THE POOR
11:11:29AM PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THOSE THAT FLOODED IN PALMA
11:11:32AM CEIA PINES.
11:11:33AM THIS IS ANOTHER IN THE SERIES OF THESE MAPS THAT THE
11:11:45AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT CREATED.
11:11:49AM IN THIS YOU SEE THIS IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT STILL IS
11:11:55AM REPRESENTED BY LIGHT BLUE AS FLOODING IN THAT AREA AFTER THE
11:12:00AM PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
11:12:02AM YOU SEE PALMA CEIA PINES IS COMPLETELY FLOODED IN THIS MAP,
11:12:10AM EVEN AFTER THE PROJECT HAS BEEN INSTALLED.
11:12:12AM SO THIS IS A FLOODING OF A FIVE-YEAR EVENT.

11:12:18AM FIVE-YEAR EVENT IS ESSENTIALLY A SUMMER STORM.
11:12:21AM YOU'VE HEARD PEOPLE HERE TODAY THAT HAVE DESCRIBED JUST A
11:12:26AM REGULAR RAINSTORM CAN CAUSE TWO TO THREE FEET OF FLOODING IN
11:12:30AM PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:12:31AM THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THAT.
11:12:33AM IT'S CALLED THE FIVE-YEAR EVENT, AND THERE WOULD STILL BE
11:12:37AM FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AFTER THE PROJECT HAS BEEN
11:12:41AM INSTALLED AS IT IS CURRENTLY PROPOSED.
11:12:43AM I ASK YOU TO LOOK AT DOCUMENTS 5A AND 5B.
11:12:56AM AGAIN, THIS IS A CLOSER INSPECTION.
11:12:57AM THIS MAP WAS CREATED BY THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, AND YOU SEE
11:13:02AM HERE THESE ARE THE FLOODED AREAS THAT WILL REMAIN IN
11:13:06AM PARKLAND ESTATES AFTER THE PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
11:13:12AM THIS IS THE ASSOCIATED E-MAIL THAT GOES WITH THAT MAP.
11:13:19AM AND YOU SEE THAT THEY REFER TO JEAN DUNCAN AND THEY SAY IN
11:13:24AM THE LIGHT BLUE BLOBS ARE ESSENTIALLY WHAT WILL REMAIN AFTER
11:13:28AM COMPLETING THIS PROJECT.
11:13:29AM THAT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN THIS PROJECT FIVE-YEAR EVENT
11:13:35AM GOAL, AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH TO CURE THE PROJECT OR THE
11:13:39AM FLOODING IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:13:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:13:41AM ALL RIGHT.
11:13:47AM NEXT UP WE HAVE MIKE BARNA, MARILYN SAMAHA AND ROCK
11:13:55AM SCAGLIONE.
11:13:56AM >> GOOD MORNING.

11:13:56AM MY NAME IS MIKE BARNA.
11:13:58AM I'M A 35-YEAR RESIDENT OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:14:01AM WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT, I WENT TO A
11:14:08AM MEETING AND I WAS TOLD BY THE PEOPLE THERE TO PLEASE GET
11:14:11AM INVOLVED.
11:14:13AM AFTER GETTING INVOLVED, I WENT TO A CITY COMMUNITY MEETING
11:14:17AM AND WAS TOLD AT THE MEETING BY THE CITY AND THE DESIGN-BUILD
11:14:23AM CONTRACTOR THAT WE NEED FLOOD RELIEF.
11:14:27AM THIS IS THE PROJECT.
11:14:29AM WE WANT TO DO MINIMAL AMOUNT OF DAMAGE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:14:33AM AND THEY PROPOSED THREE DIFFERENT ROUTES FOR THE FLOOD
11:14:37AM RELIEF PROJECT.
11:14:38AM TWO THAT CUT THROUGH PARKLAND ESTATES AND ONE THAT WENT
11:14:41AM AROUND PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:14:42AM THROUGH MY ENGINEERING BACKGROUND, ENGINEERING TRAINING, I
11:14:50AM WAS TAUGHT TO TAKE A PROBLEM, COME UP WITH A POSSIBLE
11:14:54AM SOLUTION, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE.
11:14:57AM WE ALL WANT FLOOD RELIEF.
11:14:59AM EVERYBODY IN PARKLAND ESTATES WANTS FLOOD RELIEF.
11:15:02AM WE JUST WANT THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION.
11:15:04AM IF YOU TAKE ALL THE VARIABLES, YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER, IT
11:15:08AM SEEMS LIKE IF THERE ARE DIFFERENT ROUTES, WHY WOULD YOU TAKE
11:15:10AM THE ROUTE FOR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT, WHICH IS NEEDED, AND
11:15:17AM DESTROY A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN YOU CAN GO AROUND THE
11:15:21AM NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:15:21AM IT JUST SEEMS LIKE COMMON SENSE TO ME.
11:15:24AM THANK YOU.
11:15:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:15:27AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:15:27AM MARILYN SAMAHA, ROCK SCAGLIONE, GREG CAMPBELL.
11:15:36AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:15:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:15:45AM >> MY NAME IS MARILYN SAMAHA.
11:15:48AM I LIVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:15:50AM I WAS ELECTED TO THE PECC BOARD IN MAY, AND I HAVE
11:16:01AM PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON THE PECC BOARD AND I HAVE LIVED IN OUR
11:16:05AM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
11:16:07AM OUR BOARD HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND
11:16:12AM TRANSPARENT WITH THEM IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT THE SOUTH
11:16:15AM HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
11:16:17AM WE HAVE POSTED PEC STATEMENTS MULTIPLE TIMES ON SOCIAL MEDIA
11:16:22AM CHANNELS.
11:16:23AM OUR PCC WEBSITE AND HELD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS THAT WERE
11:16:27AM DESIGNED TO GET THIS INFORMATION OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:16:30AM THERE SHOULD BE NO DOUBT ABOUT PEC'S COMMITMENT TO RESOLVE
11:16:36AM THE FLOODING ISSUES IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:16:40AM WE HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE WITH NEIGHBORS AFFECTED BY THE FLOOD
11:16:44AM AND THE PROPOSED SOUTH HOWARD FLORIDA ROUTE TO JOIN PEC --
11:16:50AM PECC TO FIND A STRONGER LEVEL OF SERVICE FROM THE CITY THAT
11:16:55AM WOULD PROVIDE ALL NEIGHBORS WITH A BETTER SOLUTION THAN WHAT

11:17:00AM HAS BEEN PROPOSED.
11:17:02AM I BELIEVE WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT FLOOD RELIEF IS
11:17:05AM NEEDED AND PCC WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY COUNCIL,
11:17:09AM STAFF, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:17:11AM PCC WANTS A DESIGN WITH COMMUNITY INPUT PLAN, NOT A
11:17:17AM DESIGN-BUILD PLAN.
11:17:18AM WE STAND WITH FIVE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND AREA
11:17:22AM BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT SUPPORT THE ORIGINAL SOLUTION AND
11:17:26AM ROUTE PUT FORTH BY STAFF.
11:17:27AM PECC WANTS A STRONGER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO BE PROVIDED BY
11:17:33AM MOBILITY STAFF SO THAT PARKLAND ESTATES DOESN'T FLOOD.
11:17:36AM WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH MOBILITY STAFF TO THOUGHTFULLY REWORK
11:17:42AM THE PROJECT GOALS AND ACHIEVE BETTER FLOOD RELIEF FOR OUR
11:17:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:17:45AM LARGE BOX CULVERTS AS PROPOSED ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR OUR
11:17:50AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:17:51AM TREE-LINED STREETS.
11:17:52AM ON THE STORMWATER UNDERGROUND MAP ON TAMPA.GOV, I'VE LOOKED
11:17:56AM AT MAJOR ARTERIES LIKE MacDILL, ROME, SWANN.
11:18:00AM THERE ARE NO BOX CULVERTS.
11:18:02AM WHY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD?
11:18:03AM PECC WANTS TO BE NOTIFIED IN A TIMELY FASHION ABOUT ALL CITY
11:18:10AM COUNCIL AND MOBILITY STAFF MEETINGS THAT ADDRESS THE SOUTH
11:18:13AM HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT RELATED TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
11:18:20AM AND/OR TAKE PLACE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

11:18:21AM INCUMBENT ON PECC TO BE TRANSPARENT AND INFORMED BY THE
11:18:24AM CITY.
11:18:25AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:18:26AM I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND TIME.
11:18:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:18:30AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:18:30AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE ROCK SCAGLIONE, GREG CAMPBELL, AND FRANK
11:18:37AM FERNANDEZ.
11:18:38AM WELCOME.
11:18:39AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:18:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:18:42AM MY NAME IS ROCK SCAGLIONE, 2718 WEST TERRACE DRIVE.
11:18:47AM MY FAMILY AND I HAVE LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES FOR SIX
11:18:49AM YEARS.
11:18:50AM I HAVE A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND AND HELP MANY OF THE
11:18:53AM NEIGHBORS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD SELL AND BUY THEIR HOME.
11:18:55AM I WAS ELECTED TO THE BOARD ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AND CHOSEN
11:18:59AM TO BE PRESIDENT.
11:18:59AM SO WE HAVE STEPPED FORWARD TO ASSEMBLE.
11:19:02AM QUICK BACKGROUND, PARKLAND ESTATES, MANY OF YOU ALREADY
11:19:05AM KNOW, 350 HOMES.
11:19:07AM RICH HISTORY.
11:19:08AM HUNDRED YEARS DEEP.
11:19:10AM LOTS OF MATURE TREE CANOPIES.
11:19:12AM PEOPLE CHOOSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE CLOSE TO HYDE PARK,

11:19:15AM CLOSE TO BAYSHORE.
11:19:18AM PARTICULARLY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
11:19:20AM I DO REAL ESTATE.
11:19:20AM I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE DRIVEN TO THE AREA BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:19:23AM AND THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THERE IS A FAILURE OF THE
11:19:26AM STORMWATER SYSTEM AND OUR BOARD IS HIGHLY EMPATHETIC TO THE
11:19:29AM LOSSES THAT NEARLY 10% OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SUSTAINED
11:19:32AM DURING THE HURRICANE IN PARTICULAR.
11:19:34AM WHEN THE BOARD AND I TOOK OFFICE IN APRIL, WE CAME TOGETHER
11:19:38AM TO QUICKLY SORT OF ASSEMBLE WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
11:19:41AM MANY OF US, MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS AT-LARGE DID NOT KNOW
11:19:43AM ABOUT THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROGRAM.
11:19:46AM THERE WAS POOR COMMUNICATION ACROSS THE BOARD.
11:19:49AM BUT NOW THAT WE SORT OF DUG IN AND WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO
11:19:52AM THE NEIGHBORS, LISTENING TO THOSE IMPACTED, LISTENING TO
11:19:54AM EVERYONE, I'M TRYING TO GET A CONSENSUS OF THE CONCERNS OF
11:19:57AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH I BELIEVE ARE A LARGER PLAN MAY TAKE
11:20:03AM SEVERAL YEARS.
11:20:03AM WE NEED A QUICK-FIX.
11:20:05AM WE NEED SOMETHING TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
11:20:07AM WE SEE WATERS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE NORTH ARE
11:20:09AM FLOWING DOWN.
11:20:10AM VIDEO CAPTURING COMING DOWN AUDUBON, ARMENIA AND SO FORTH.
11:20:14AM WHAT ARE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS DOING OR WHAT ARE WE DOING TO
11:20:17AM HELP THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS SUSTAIN THEIR OWN WATER?

11:20:19AM THERE USED TO BE A MASSIVE CONCRETE FOUNTAIN IN FOUNTAIN
11:20:22AM PARK.
11:20:23AM WE BELIEVE THERE COULD BE THIS LARGE CONCRETE IMPERMEABLE
11:20:28AM SURFACE UNDERNEATH THE SOIL.
11:20:30AM WE WANT AN INVESTIGATION INTO THAT TO SEE IF THAT'S POSSIBLY
11:20:33AM PREVENTING SOME OF THE NATURAL DISSIPATION.
11:20:35AM WE BELIEVE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE ON THE
11:20:38AM CURRENT STORMWATER PIPES AND DEBRIS COULD BE CREATING
11:20:43AM BLOCKAGES.
11:20:44AM STORMWATER PLAN, STRONGLY FEEL LARGE BOX CULVERTS NO PLACE
11:20:47AM ON SMALL TREE LINED HISTORIC STREETS AND WE PREFER THEM TO
11:20:51AM BE THE BIG AREAS AND THE BIG ROADS.
11:20:54AM WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER ROUTES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
11:20:57AM BE EXPLORED.
11:20:58AM WE HAVE NOT HEARD OF THEM.
11:21:00AM WE WOULD LIKE MORE OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.
11:21:03AM WE BELIEVE IF WE SUPPORT DESIGN WITH COMMUNITY INPUT, CITY
11:21:10AM ENGINEERS, CITY COUNCIL, AND THE COMMUNITY, ALL OF US CAN
11:21:12AM COME TOGETHER TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY ON A PLAN THAT
11:21:14AM ACHIEVES ALL OF OUR GOALS.
11:21:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.
11:21:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:21:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:21:19AM NEXT UP, GREG CAMPBELL, FRANK FERNANDEZ, RUMELA DOSS.
11:21:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:21:31AM >> THANK YOU.
11:21:32AM MY NAME IS GREG CAMPBELL.
11:21:36AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB BOARD.
11:21:40AM I WAS ELECTED LAST MAY, WAS RECRUITED REALLY LAST MAY WITH
11:21:46AM SUPPORT FROM BOTH SIDES.
11:21:47AM I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE IT NOW, BUT YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE
11:21:51AM DIFFERENCES AMONG US.
11:21:54AM TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THOSE DIFFERENCES AND COME TO A
11:21:57AM CONCLUSION WE CAN ALL AGREE ON IS THE BIGGEST ASSIGNMENT FOR
11:22:02AM US.
11:22:03AM I THINK I'VE SEEN PROGRESS.
11:22:05AM THERE'S OBVIOUSLY STILL MORE TO MAKE.
11:22:07AM WE NEED YOUR HELP, YOUR SUPPORT.
11:22:13AM COMING UP MOST IN VERY SHORTLY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU HAVE
11:22:17AM TO VOTE FOR OR AGAINST A DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
11:22:21AM AS I UNDERSTAND THAT, DESIGN-BUILD, IF YOU APPROVE IT, YOU
11:22:27AM EFFECTIVELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THE PROCESS THEREAFTER.
11:22:32AM IT PROCEEDS ON ITS OWN COURSE.
11:22:35AM WE'RE ASKING YOU NOT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED YOUR
11:22:40AM CONTINUED HELP AND SUPPORT AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR OWN ISSUES
11:22:44AM AND AS WE SEEK TO WORK WITH OTHER NEIGHBORING ASSOCIATIONS
11:22:49AM AND ALL TOGETHER TO WORK ON A PROJECT THAT REALLY CAN BE
11:22:55AM GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:55AM SO OUR PLEA TO YOU, AS IT COMES UP, VOTE FOR DESIGN WITH
11:23:01AM CONTINUED COMMUNITY INPUT SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN WORK OUT A

11:23:06AM SYSTEM THAT IS BEST FOR ALL.
11:23:08AM I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF FOUNTAIN AND AUDUBON.
11:23:17AM THE FIRST CORNER, THE BACK CORNER IS SWANN AND AUDUBON.
11:23:23AM THAT IS GROUND ZERO FOR FLOODING.
11:23:26AM BARBARA AND I ARE NOW IN AN AirBnB BUNGALOW AS OUR HOME IS
11:23:32AM BEING FUMIGATED AND ALL THE THINGS THEY HAVE TO DO.
11:23:36AM WE KNOW ABOUT FLOODING.
11:23:38AM MY PARENTS BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY IN 1953, AND I'VE SEEN IT
11:23:42AM ACROSS ALL THESE YEARS.
11:23:44AM WE DO KNOW ABOUT FLOODING.
11:23:47AM MILTON WAS THE WORST.
11:23:48AM NO WATER IN THE HOUSE BEFORE THEN, BEFORE THE LAST COUPLE OF
11:23:52AM WEEKS, BUT ABOUT AN INCH NOW.
11:23:54AM THAT WREAKS HAVOC.
11:23:56AM WE DO NEED HELP.
11:23:58AM I DO THINK THAT THE IDEA OF BOX CULVERTS ALONG COMMERCIAL
11:24:04AM AVENUES LEADING TO THE BAY IS A VERY GOOD ONE.
11:24:07AM I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT IT MAKES COMMON SENSE.
11:24:11AM BUT NOT IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE TREE-LINED STREETS AND
11:24:14AM THE OLDER HOMES WHERE YOU DESTROY THE AMBIENCE.
11:24:18AM YOU CUT OFF YOUR HAND IN THE PROCESS TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
11:24:21AM WE CAN HAVE BOTH.
11:24:25AM BOX CULVERTS IN THE AVENUES AND PIPES, LARGER CONCRETE PIPES
11:24:32AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:24:35AM BOX CULVERTS ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARES.

11:24:38AM THAT'S THE WAY WE THINK WE CAN GO.
11:24:41AM WE DO NEED YOUR HELP.
11:24:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:24:44AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:24:44AM FRANK FERNANDEZ.
11:24:47AM RUMELA DOSS, AND AMY BROWN.
11:24:52AM THAT'S HOW I READ IT.
11:24:54AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:24:55AM >> FRANK FERNANDEZ.
11:24:55AM GOOD MORNING, DISTINGUISHED CITY OF TAMPA COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:25:02AM I OWN THE BUSINESS ON THE CORNER OF SWANN AND ARMENIA.
11:25:07AM 2503 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
11:25:09AM ALSO OWN THE BUILDING DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT AT 609 SOUTH
11:25:12AM ARMENIA.
11:25:13AM I WOULD URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS RELIEF PROJECT.
11:25:19AM YOU'VE HEARD A LOT FROM PEOPLE FOR A LONG TIME.
11:25:23AM OUR BUILDING WAS SEVERELY AFFECTED BY CAUSING HUNDREDS OF
11:25:27AM THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGE.
11:25:29AM I OWN THREE BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THAT BUILDING,
11:25:32AM AND WE ARE STILL NOT UP AND RUNNING.
11:25:34AM THERE'S NO ONE IN THE BUILDING.
11:25:36AM HAD TO BE CLEARED OUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM.
11:25:39AM I HAVE MULTIPLE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT OPERATE OUT OF MY
11:25:43AM BUILDING.
11:25:44AM OTHER LAW FIRMS, ACCOUNTING FIRMS, OTHER PROFESSIONALS THAT

11:25:48AM HAVE BEEN DISPLACED.
11:25:50AM IT'S A PROBLEM.
11:25:56AM THE ISSUE IS THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THAT NO ONE WANTS TO
11:26:00AM GO THROUGH IT.
11:26:00AM I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO BE TROUBLED BY THE DESTRUCTION OF
11:26:04AM THE ROADS.
11:26:04AM I WILL I HAVE IN HYDE PARK JUST DOWN THE ROADWAY.
11:26:07AM BUT THE QUESTION FOR YOU ALL IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE.
11:26:13AM IS IT NECESSARY?
11:26:13AM THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION BEFORE YOU.
11:26:18AM EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT ISSUES, BUT REALLY THE ONLY
11:26:22AM QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS, IS IT NECESSARY?
11:26:24AM WE HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES OF ALL THE FLOODING THAT'S
11:26:27AM HAPPENED REPEATEDLY EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NOT HURRICANES
11:26:31AM APPROACHING US.
11:26:32AM OUR BUILDING, WHEN WE BUILT IT IN 2014 THROUGH 16 WAS CIVIL
11:26:39AM ENGINEERED TO AVOID FLOODING AND IT DIDN'T.
11:26:41AM SO IT'S DEFINITELY NECESSARY.
11:26:45AM YOU HAVE A MOBILITY STAFF WHO TOLD YOU IT'S NECESSARY.
11:26:48AM YOU HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS WHO HAVE GIVEN YOU REPORTS SAYING
11:26:51AM IT'S NECESSARY.
11:26:53AM AND YOU'VE KNOWN THESE THINGS FOR YEARS.
11:26:57AM YOU HAVE A FEW OWNERS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION
11:27:00AM TO IT.
11:27:00AM THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

11:27:01AM IT WILL AFFECT THEIR BUSINESSES BUT IN THE END IT WILL BE
11:27:04AM BETTER FOR THEIR BUSINESSES.
11:27:05AM THE ISSUE ALSO IS CIVIL LIABILITY FOR THE CITY.
11:27:10AM THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO
11:27:14AM HAVE BEEN DAMAGED, NOT THEORETICALLY DAMAGED BUT ACTUALLY
11:27:19AM DAMAGED, 768.28 COULD BRING CLAIMS AGAINST THE CITY.
11:27:25AM MULTIPLE CLAIMS.
11:27:26AM EVEN IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE'S CAR WHO HAS BEEN DAMAGED, THAT
11:27:31AM PERSON COULD BRING A CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY.
11:27:33AM SO WHILE YOU MAY HAVE THEORETICAL DAMAGES OF OTHER PROPERTY
11:27:37AM OWNERS OR OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS, THESE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY
11:27:41AM DAMAGED AND ACTUALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING CIVIL CLAIMS
11:27:46AM AGAINST THE CITY.
11:27:47AM IN ADDITION TO THE BILL TO FIX THE PROJECT, WHATEVER IT IS,
11:27:51AM 64 MILLION, YOU MAY HAVE THEIR CLAIMS STACKED ON TOP OF IT,
11:27:55AM PLUS THE CITY ATTORNEY FEES.
11:27:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:27:59AM >> THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
11:28:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RUMELA DOSS.
11:28:03AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:28:03AM AMY BROWN.
11:28:08AM AND THEN JANE SIMON.
11:28:14AM >> HI.
11:28:15AM GOOD MORNING.
11:28:15AM MY NAME IS RUMELA DOSS.

11:28:18AM I AM A HOMEOWNER IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:28:19AM I LIVE THERE WITH MY HUSBAND, MY FOUR AND ONE-YEAR-OLD BABY
11:28:23AM BOYS.
11:28:23AM A MEMBER OF THE CIVIC CLUB AND I ALSO SPEAK FOR A LOT OF THE
11:28:26AM FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN THAT DON'T HAVE TIME TO GET ON
11:28:29AM THE BOARD OF THE CIVIC CLUB.
11:28:30AM BUT THEY HAVE OPINIONS TOO.
11:28:32AM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS.
11:28:34AM I'M HERE TO IMPLORE YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE PUSH
11:28:38AM FORWARD THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
11:28:41AM I KNOW YOU HAVE BUSINESS OWNERS ASKING YOU TO DELAY.
11:28:44AM I'VE HEARD EVERYONE'S OPINIONS, WORRIED ABOUT TREES, THINGS
11:28:47AM LIKE THAT, BUT THE SAFETY OF OUR YOUNG CHILDREN COMES WAY
11:28:51AM ABOVE ALL OF THAT.
11:28:52AM PLEASE, DON'T MAKE US WADE THROUGH FLOODWATERS WHEN WE COME
11:28:57AM HOME FROM SCHOOL WITH OUR YOUNG CHILDREN BECAUSE OF AN
11:29:00AM AFTERNOON RAINSTORM.
11:29:02AM PUSH FORWARD THE PROJECT NOW, NOT WHEN THEY GO OFF TO
11:29:04AM COLLEGE AND WE HAVE A RELIEF PROGRAM COMING THEN, IF THEY
11:29:06AM CAN MAKE IT THAT FAR.
11:29:08AM LET'S GET TO THAT POINT WITH OUR CHILDREN BEING SAFE.
11:29:10AM THAT'S ALL I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
11:29:12AM THANK YOU.
11:29:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:29:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:29:15AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:29:15AM AMY.
11:29:17AM YES, MA'AM.
11:29:19AM JANE IS AFTER.
11:29:22AM AND THEN JOANIE CORNEIL.
11:29:28AM >> HI.
11:29:29AM AMY BROWN.
11:29:30AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US SHARE OUR
11:29:36AM FEEDBACK ON THE PARKLAND ESTATES FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT AND
11:29:41AM APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
11:29:42AM I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS SHORT.
11:29:43AM I LIVE IN PARKLAND.
11:29:44AM I AM AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE PARKLAND ESTATES CIVIC CLUB.
11:29:49AM BUT I DO SUPPORT THE DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT AND WOULD LIKE TO
11:29:54AM MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT AS SOON AS
11:29:58AM POSSIBLE AND LOVE TO SEE YOUR CONVERSATION FOR SWIFT ACTION.
11:30:02AM WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THE COMMUNICATION MENTIONED EARLIER,
11:30:04AM IT WAS ALL RETROACTIVE, KIND OF AFTER THE FACT.
11:30:07AM SO WE DID LEARN ABOUT -- THE PECC BOARD STANCE, BUT IT WAS
11:30:13AM RETROACTIVE.
11:30:14AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUT THAT I'M IN THE
11:30:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DID NOT FLOOD.
11:30:18AM MANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE, THEY ALL FLOODED, BUT I'M STILL IN
11:30:21AM SUPPORT OF TRYING TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:30:23AM WE PAY HIGH PROPERTY TAXES AND MOVE TO ZONE X FOR A REASON.

11:30:30AM SHOULDN'T BE HELD UP INDEFINITELY BY THE FEEDBACK ABOUT
11:30:33AM TREES IN FRONT OF HOUSES OR A COUPLE DOZEN BUSINESSES IN
11:30:37AM SOHO.
11:30:37AM IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT FLOODED THAT WANT A RESOLUTION
11:30:40AM NOW.
11:30:41AM I REPRESENT MANY PEOPLE THAT DID NOT FLOOD THAT STILL
11:30:44AM SUPPORT QUICK ACTION BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO
11:30:48AM PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE NEXT EVENT.
11:30:51AM LASTLY, I WORK FROM HOME.
11:30:53AM TOO MANY FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN HIT.
11:30:55AM MANY OF THE FOLKS THAT WORK FROM HOME WE REPRESENT SMALL AND
11:30:58AM LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT WERE AFFECTED BY THE DISRUPTION OF THE
11:31:02AM FLOODS AND WERE JEOPARDIZING THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE
11:31:06AM LOCAL ECONOMY.
11:31:07AM I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT I WOULD LIKE A SOLUTION AS
11:31:11AM SOON AS POSSIBLE.
11:31:11AM WE DO HAVE THE PLANS.
11:31:13AM THE ENGINEERED PLANS.
11:31:15AM PLEASE VOTE FOR IT ON NOVEMBER 21st.
11:31:18AM THANK YOU.
11:31:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:19AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:31:19AM YES, MA'AM, JANE.
11:31:23AM YOU ARE THE NEXT SPEAKER.
11:31:25AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:31:26AM >> JANE SIMON.
11:31:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:31:28AM GO AHEAD.
11:31:28AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OTHER CITIZENS
11:31:31AM OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:31:32AM MY NAME IS JANE SIMON.
11:31:34AM I LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES FOR 13 YEARS.
11:31:36AM I WAS A MEMBER OF THE CIVIC BOARD FOR 6 YEARS AND I BECAME
11:31:40AM PRESIDENT IN 2022.
11:31:42AM IN 2023, I WAS FORCED OUT BECAUSE I WAS IN SUPPORT OF THIS
11:31:46AM PROJECT.
11:31:47AM DURING THE YEARS THAT I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FLOODING
11:31:49AM HAS BEEN A MAJOR ISSUE WHERE ALL OF US WORRY ABOUT THE
11:31:52AM IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY.
11:31:54AM OUR KIDS, OUR CARS, OUR HOUSES.
11:31:57AM EVEN RUINED FEDEX TRUCKS.
11:32:00AM UNFORTUNATELY, THAT DRIVER WAS INJURED.
11:32:01AM THE FLOODING AFFECTS ALL OF US AND IT WILL RUIN SEVERAL
11:32:07AM TREES ALONG FOUNTAIN BOULEVARD.
11:32:08AM FOR WORK, I'M ACTUALLY A GRANTS ADMINISTRATOR AND I KNOW THE
11:32:12AM IMPORTANCE OF GRANT FUNDING.
11:32:13AM I KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH RESTRICTED DOLLARS.
11:32:16AM THESE DOLLARS WON'T BE AROUND FOREVER.
11:32:17AM IT WOULD BE A TRAGEDY TO LOSE THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT
11:32:21AM BECAUSE OF A FEW NEIGHBORS WHO AREN'T LOOKING AT ALL OF THE

11:32:24AM FACTS.
11:32:25AM MY NETWORK IS LARGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I KNOW AND
11:32:28AM REPRESENT SEVERAL FAMILIES WHO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT BECAUSE
11:32:30AM THE FLOOD MITIGATION IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
11:32:34AM WE CANNOT STRESS OVER THE DETAILS NOW.
11:32:35AM WE NEED TO LET THE ENGINEERS DO THEIR WORK AND NEED TO LET
11:32:39AM THIS PROJECT PROCEED.
11:32:40AM THANK YOU.
11:32:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:32:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:32:43AM JOANIE IS THE NEXT SPEAKER, FOLLOWED BY MR. ALBERT COOKE AND
11:32:50AM RICK LARSON.
11:32:51AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
11:32:52AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:32:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:32:54AM I'M JOANIE CORNEIL.
11:32:59AM I'VE HAD A BUSINESS ON HOWARD AVENUE FOR OVER 38 YEARS.
11:33:05AM I UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.
11:33:08AM I FEEL SUCH SYMPATHY FOR EVERYBODY IN TAMPA AND AROUND OUR
11:33:13AM STATE THAT HAS HAD SO MUCH DAMAGE.
11:33:15AM ADDRESSING THAT, I FEEL THAT THE PROBLEM WITH THE SOUTH
11:33:22AM HOWARD PROJECT IS THAT SOUTH HOWARD IS A TWO-LANE STREET AS
11:33:27AM WE ALL KNOW, AND CLOSING IT DOWN SECTION BY SECTION IS
11:33:35AM DETRIMENTAL TO THE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD BECAUSE OF THE
11:33:43AM STREET ACCESS FROM THE SIDE STREETS.

11:33:46AM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOU CLOSED DOWN HOWARD -- ACCESS TO
11:33:52AM HOWARD BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THOSE DELIVERY, SEMI TRAILER
11:33:57AM TRUCKS THAT NEED TO GET TO EVERYONE'S BUSINESSES TO DELIVER.
11:34:04AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS WILL NOT ALLOW THAT.
11:34:06AM THEY ARE NOT BIG ENOUGH.
11:34:10AM HAVING SAID THAT, ALSO, IT'S DETRIMENTAL TO EVERY BUSINESS
11:34:16AM ON HOWARD, BECAUSE ONCE HOWARD IS BLOCKED, CUSTOMERS ARE NOT
11:34:24AM GOING TO EVEN GO TO THAT AREA.
11:34:26AM THEY ARE GOING TO GO, OH, NO, I'M NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH
11:34:30AM THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC AND THEY GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:34:32AM I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES FOREVER
11:34:38AM BUT THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON HOWARD THAT HAVE HAD BUSINESSES
11:34:41AM FOREVER.
11:34:43AM I FEEL THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME WAY THAT THE ENGINEERS
11:34:48AM COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MOVE THIS TO -- AND I DON'T
11:34:53AM WANT TO GET SHOT FOR THIS -- BUT TO MacDILL, A FOUR-LANE
11:34:58AM STREET SO THAT ONLY TWO LANES WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED.
11:35:01AM I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT
11:35:04AM SERIOUSLY BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER SOLUTION.
11:35:11AM YES, IT WILL AFFECT TRAFFIC ON MacDILL, BUT IF THEY ONLY
11:35:15AM CLOSE TWO LANES AT A TIME, THERE WOULD STILL BE ACCESS TO
11:35:20AM EVERYBODY'S HOMES, TO THE BUSINESSES ON HOWARD.
11:35:26AM IT'S VERY DISTURBING WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CITY AND OUR
11:35:33AM COUNTY.
11:35:34AM PINELLAS COUNTY, AROUND THE ENTIRE STATE.

11:35:39AM I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR AREA,
11:35:44AM OUR PART OF TOWN TO REMEDY THIS AND THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.
11:35:52AM I THINK EVERYONE IS FOCUSED ON HOWARD AVENUE AND MAYBE THEY
11:35:55AM SHOULD LOOK ELSEWHERE.
11:35:57AM THANKS.
11:35:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:36:01AM NEXT UP IS MR. ALBERT COOKE.
11:36:06AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:36:07AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOLLOWED BY RICK LARSON AND DOROTHY
11:36:10AM BLAND.
11:36:10AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:36:12AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:36:13AM MY NAME IS ALBERT COOKE.
11:36:15AM I LIVE IN VM YBOR.
11:36:18AM TODAY I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU, I'M GOING TO COMMENT AS A
11:36:22AM MEMBER OF THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD AND CHAIRMAN OF THE NEWLY
11:36:25AM FORMED CHIEFS ADVISORY PANEL.
11:36:29AM TODAY YOU WILL VOTE ON THE TAMPA CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD CITY
11:36:34AM ORDINANCE.
11:36:36AM FIRST, A QUICK HISTORY.
11:36:37AM IN 2015, THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD WAS INFORMED TO ENHANCE
11:36:42AM TRUST BETWEEN THE TAMPA CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT AND COMMUNITY
11:36:45AM IT SERVES BY CREATING AN UNBIASED PANEL OF CITIZENS TO
11:36:49AM REVIEW COMPLETED DISCIPLINARY CASES AND ISSUES OF IMPORTANCE

11:36:53AM OR INTEREST TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:36:55AM THE REVIEW BOARD REPORTED ITS FINDINGS TO THE CHIEF OF
11:37:01AM POLICE AND WHEN APPROPRIATE MAY RECOMMEND POSSIBLE POLICY
11:37:05AM CHANGES.
11:37:05AM EARLIER THIS YEAR, FLORIDA STATE LEGISLATORS PASSED HOUSE
11:37:11AM BILL 601.
11:37:12AM THIS BILL INITIALLY -- ESSENTIALLY END CITIZEN REVIEW BOARDS
11:37:17AM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
11:37:18AM FORTUNATELY, TPD CHIEF LEE BERCAW UNDERSTANDS THE VALUE OF
11:37:23AM CITIZEN INPUT AND CREATED A NEW OVERSIGHT BOARD CALLED THE
11:37:27AM CHIEF'S ADVISORY PANEL.
11:37:28AM IN AN INTRODUCTORY LETTER TO THE PANEL, CHIEF BERCAW STATED
11:37:33AM THIS PANEL SERVES AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR INDEPENDENT REVIEW
11:37:36AM AND FEEDBACK ON TPD OPERATIONS, MEMBERS OF THIS PANEL WILL
11:37:41AM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIRECTLY EXAMINE AND PROVIDE
11:37:45AM INFORMED INSIGHT ON POLICE POLICY AND CONFIRM THAT IT ALIGNS
11:37:49AM WITH THE NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS OF THE COMMUNITY IT SERVES.
11:37:53AM THIS PANEL WILL FORCE TRANSPARENCY, STRENGTHEN POLICE
11:37:58AM COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIPS, AND ULTIMATELY HELP IN THE SHARED
11:38:01AM GOAL OF MAKING TAMPA SAFER.
11:38:03AM THE CHIEF ADVISORY PANEL CONSISTS OF SIX CITIZENS AND ONE
11:38:08AM RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.
11:38:10AM THE MEETINGS ARE ATTENDED BY THE CHIEF, HIS DEPUTIES AND
11:38:13AM SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:38:15AM BECAUSE CHIEF BERCAW ATTENDS THE MEETINGS, PANEL LEADERSHIP

11:38:20AM DOES NOT HAVE TO REPORT TO THE CHIEF.
11:38:23AM HE IS PRESENT AT THE MEETINGS, REDUCING ADMINISTRATIVE RED
11:38:26AM TAPE.
11:38:26AM WE WILL MEET BIMONTHLY AND THE PLAN TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS --
11:38:31AM PLAN TO HAVE OUR MEETINGS AT PUBLIC VENUES THROUGHOUT THE
11:38:34AM CITY, INCLUDING TPD DISTRICT OFFICES.
11:38:37AM THE CHIEF'S ADVISORY PANEL HAS ALREADY MET, ELECTED ITS
11:38:43AM LEADERSHIP AND HAS BEGUN WORKING ON ITS FIRST PROJECT.
11:38:46AM THIS IS NOT THE END OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.
11:38:49AM IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT FORMAT WITHIN THE GUIDELINES SET BY
11:38:53AM OUR STATE LEADERSHIP.
11:38:55AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU DO.
11:38:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:59AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RICK LARSON.
11:39:01AM DOROTHY BLAND, AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:39:05AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:39:06AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:39:07AM >> RICK LARSON.
11:39:08AM 807 SOUTH LAKEVIEW ROAD.
11:39:10AM I'VE LIVED IN PARKLAND ESTATES 22 YEARS.
11:39:12AM I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS.
11:39:15AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO -- NOTES THAT TOOK ME HOURS TO TYPE.
11:39:19AM I'M JUST GOING TO TALK.
11:39:20AM HURTS MY HEART TO HEAR MY NEIGHBORS SAY THEY ARE NOT BEING

11:39:23AM REPRESENTED BY OUR BOARD.
11:39:25AM IN APRIL, WE HAD OUR ANNUAL MEETING, AND THEY VOTED OUT THE
11:39:29AM OLD BOARD BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE AND PUT US IN.
11:39:31AM I REALLY WISH I HADN'T RUN BECAUSE THIS IS NOT FUN.
11:39:34AM WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELP.
11:39:37AM I THINK YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND.
11:39:39AM WE ARE ALL FOR STARTING THIS PROJECT YESTERDAY.
11:39:42AM WE JUST ASK FOR TWO THINGS.
11:39:44AM WE THINK THE DESIGN-BUILD TOGETHER IS DANGEROUS FOR US AS A
11:39:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:39:48AM WE WOULD LIKE YOUR PROTECTION.
11:39:49AM IF WE CAN HAVE A SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD, WE COULD HAVE
11:39:52AM COMMUNITY INPUT THAT ACTUALLY MATTERS.
11:39:54AM AND IF WE DIDN'T LIKE SOMETHING, WE COULD COME BACK AND ASK
11:39:57AM FOR HELP.
11:39:58AM CAN'T DO THAT IF YOU PUT THE PROJECT TOGETHER.
11:40:00AM WE'RE DOING THAT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT
11:40:03AM TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:40:05AM WE LOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:40:06AM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL, HISTORIC, TREE-LINED NEIGHBORHOOD,
11:40:09AM HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
11:40:10AM WHEN THEY PRESENTED THIS TO US, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT
11:40:14AM UNTIL MARCH.
11:40:15AM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TEN YEARS.
11:40:17AM WE KNEW NOTHING.

11:40:18AM SO IN MARCH, I START DIGGING AND LOOKING, THERE ARE THREE
11:40:21AM PLANNED ROUTES.
11:40:22AM TWO OF THEM GO THROUGH PARKLAND.
11:40:24AM ONE OF THEM IS THE MOST OBVIOUS, WHICH GOES HALFWAY UP
11:40:27AM HOWARD PAST THE THAI RESTAURANT, COMES BACK TO BRISTOL AND
11:40:32AM BACK UP LAKEVIEW.
11:40:33AM IT MAKES NO SENSE.
11:40:35AM FIVE TURNS, HALFWAY UP HOWARD.
11:40:37AM THEY PRESENTED THIS TO THE BUSINESSES AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE
11:40:40AM GOING TO BURY YOUR ELECTRICAL WIRES.
11:40:43AM WE'RE GOING TO WIDEN THE SIDEWALKS.
11:40:45AM WE'LL DO NEW LANDSCAPING.
11:40:46AM WE'LL SLOW THE TRAFFIC.
11:40:48AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
11:40:48AM THEY ARE ONLY DOING HALF OF HOWARD.
11:40:51AM WHY NOT GO ALL THE WAY TO SWANN AND DOWN TO PARKLAND
11:40:54AM ESTATES?
11:40:54AM THAT'S THE ISSUE.
11:40:56AM THIS IS A REGIONAL COMMUNITY-BASED PROBLEM.
11:40:58AM AND THEY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE IT BY DESTROYING THE
11:41:01AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:41:01AM MAKES NO SENSE TO ASK US TO DO THAT.
11:41:05AM I'M HERE TODAY, THOUGH, TO SAY EVEN IF THEY STARTED TODAY, I
11:41:08AM KNOW THIS IS A THREE-YEAR PROJECT AT LEAST, JUST BY THEIR
11:41:12AM OWN NUMBERS.

11:41:12AM SO I LOOKED INTO THIS.
11:41:13AM I'VE BEEN READING.
11:41:14AM I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
11:41:15AM ALL OF THE WATER FOR PARKLAND ESTATES IS BEING CREATED FROM
11:41:18AM THE NORTH OF US.
11:41:19AM PALMA CEIA PINES.
11:41:21AM PEOPLE THAT FLOODED, ALL THAT IS MEMORIAL HOSPITAL JUST DID
11:41:25AM AN EXPANSION, ALL THESE TOWN HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT ON
11:41:30AM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, TWO AND FOUR TOWN HOUSES, NOTHING BUT
11:41:33AM CONCRETE UP THERE.
11:41:34AM AND THE ROADS ARE ALL DESIGNED, AUDUBON AND ARMENIA, ALL
11:41:38AM COME RIGHT INTO THE MOUTH OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:41:40AM THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS DID THAT THEY ARE ASKING US TO
11:41:43AM TRUST.
11:41:44AM IN THEIR OWN REPORT, YOU CAN READ THAT IT SAYS THE STREETS
11:41:48AM ARE MILLED WRONG.
11:41:49AM THEY GOT PAVED AND REPAVED AND THEY NEVER WERE MILLED
11:41:52AM CORRECTLY.
11:41:53AM SO THEIR OWN SEWER DRAINS UP IN PALMA CEIA DON'T WORK.
11:41:58AM SO THAT WATER IS ON THE SURFACE FLOWING RIGHT TO THE MOUTH
11:42:02AM OF A KNOWN FLOODED AREA.
11:42:05AM THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
11:42:06AM SO MUCH OF THIS COULD BE CHANGED TODAY. THAT SHOULD HAVE
11:42:09AM BEEN CHANGED BEFORE.
11:42:11AM IT'S IN THE REPORT.

11:42:12AM THAT COULD BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY.
11:42:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:14AM >> THANK YOU, GUYS.
11:42:14AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOROTHY BLAND IS THE NEXT SPEAKER
11:42:21AM FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:42:24AM AND THEN POYNOR.
11:42:26AM YES, MA'AM.
11:42:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:42:29AM >> IS THERE A MICROPHONE?
11:42:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT'S HIDDEN IN THE HARDWARE THERE.
11:42:34AM IT WILL AMPLIFY AND PICK EVERYTHING UP.
11:42:37AM >> DEEDEE BLAND.
11:42:38AM MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN THE 33629 ZIP CODE AND OWN THREE
11:42:43AM LONG-TERM RENTAL RESIDENCES ALSO IN 33629.
11:42:49AM QUITE FRANKLY, THE PECC BOARD'S POLITICS THAT ARE TRYING TO
11:42:54AM PROTECT THE AMBIENCE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE VERY TROUBLING
11:42:58AM TO ME.
11:42:58AM AS A PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, I HAVE SERIOUS
11:43:02AM CONCERNS ABOUT THE CHRONIC FLOODING THAT PLAGUES SMALL
11:43:05AM BUSINESSES AND NEIGHBORS IN PARKLAND ESTATES, PALMA CEIA
11:43:08AM PINES AND OTHERS.
11:43:09AM IT IS MERELY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THAT FLOODING PERMEATES
11:43:14AM MORE TAMPA NEIGHBORHOODS IF THE PROPOSED FLOOD RELIEF
11:43:19AM PROJECT DOES NOT PROCEED.

11:43:20AM THE FLOODING IN PARKLAND ESTATES ON SEPTEMBER 4 AND AGAIN
11:43:24AM DURING HURRICANE MILTON, WAS PREVENTABLE.
11:43:29AM BECAUSE HIGH-PROFILE BUSINESS OWNERS ON SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE
11:43:33AM AND SOME NON-FLOODED RESIDENTS IN PARKLAND ESTATES SUCCEEDED
11:43:36AM IN BLOCKING CITY COUNCIL FROM DOING THEIR JOBS BY IMPROVING
11:43:42AM THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE, NUMEROUS FAMILIES HAVE LOST SO
11:43:45AM MUCH.
11:43:46AM THIS FLOODING SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTABLE.
11:43:49AM PLEASE DON'T CONTINUE TO BE COMPLICIT IN FUTURE PREVENTABLE
11:43:53AM FLOOD DAMAGE AND DISTRESS.
11:43:56AM PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSED FLOODWATER RELIEF PROJECT.
11:43:59AM THIS FLOODING PROBLEM WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY ON ITS OWN.
11:44:03AM WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU TO TAKE ACTION AND PROTECT THE CITY OF
11:44:06AM TAMPA RESIDENTS.
11:44:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
11:44:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:44:10AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, POYNOR, MENTESNOT.
11:44:16AM >> HI.
11:44:17AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:44:19AM MY HOUSE IS AT 17 FEET.
11:44:21AM IF WHAT EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT THEIR HOUSES ARE AT 21 FEET,
11:44:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO COMPARE MY EXPERIENCE TO THEIRS.
11:44:28AM MY STREET WAS A RIVER, BUT IT WAS A VERY FAST-MOVING RIVER
11:44:33AM THAT DRAINED VERY EFFECTIVELY.
11:44:35AM WE HAD NO INKLING OF ANY FLOODING BECAUSE OF THAT.

11:44:42AM IF THEY ARE AT 21 FEET AND EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING, THERE
11:44:44AM IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE STORMWATER SYSTEM.
11:44:47AM BECAUSE THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT 17 FEET
11:44:49AM WORKED WONDERFULLY.
11:44:50AM SO THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
11:44:52AM THE PROBLEM IS YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
11:44:55AM YOU CAN'T THINK YOU'RE FIXING IT.
11:44:57AM YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
11:44:59AM $250 MILLION WAS SPENT -- WAS BUDGETED FOR STORMWATER.
11:45:04AM THERE WAS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON OUR BILLS WITH THE
11:45:06AM BONDING.
11:45:07AM PROBABLY 500 MILLION.
11:45:08AM A GOOD BIT OF THAT IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR MANHATTAN AND
11:45:12AM THEY DID THAT WORK.
11:45:13AM YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN I DROVE DOWN MANHATTAN AFTER THE
11:45:16AM STORMS, PEOPLE'S MATTRESSES AND BELONGINGS WERE AT THE
11:45:20AM STREET BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WORK.
11:45:21AM DID IT HELP?
11:45:22AM YES HELPED.
11:45:23AM REDUCE SOME OF THE LIGHT FLOODING, FLOODING WE EXPERIENCE
11:45:25AM ALL THE TIME?
11:45:26AM YES.
11:45:26AM DID IT HELP WITH HELENE AND MILTON?
11:45:29AM NO, IT DID NOT.
11:45:30AM THOSE PEOPLE'S HOUSES FLOODED ANYWAY AFTER THE PROJECT

11:45:34AM SUPPOSED TO CORRECT IT WAS DONE.
11:45:36AM MOST IMPORTANT THING EVERYONE KNOWS AND AGREES IT'S A
11:45:38AM PROBLEM BUT YOU'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY FIX IT.
11:45:41AM THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY IN
11:45:43AM PALMA CEIA PINES.
11:45:45AM RIGHT HERE, THE CITY'S STORMWATER ENGINEER SAYS OUR PIPES
11:45:50AM FOR THIS PROJECT WILL NOT EXTEND FURTHER NORTH THAN PARKLAND
11:45:54AM ESTATES.
11:45:54AM THEY'VE GOT DOCUMENTS SAYING THIS PROJECT IS STILL GOING TO
11:45:57AM HAVE FLOODING, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED IN MANHATTAN.
11:46:00AM WE STILL HAVE FLOODING.
11:46:01AM THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IS APPROVE THIS PROJECT AS IS AND
11:46:05AM THEN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN IT IS FINISHED AND TWO YEARS
11:46:08AM AFTER THAT WHEN THEY REALIZE IT'S NOT FIXED, THEN TWO MORE
11:46:11AM YEARS OF FIGURING OUT HOW TO FIX IT AND FIVE OR SIX MORE
11:46:14AM YEARS OF DOING THE OTHER FIX.
11:46:16AM IT WILL DELAY THE SOLUTION.
11:46:18AM A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHOSE HOUSES FLOODED WILL STILL FLOOD
11:46:22AM AFTER THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THIS PROJECT ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH.
11:46:24AM IF YOU HAVE TO SPEND MORE MONEY, SPEND MORE MONEY.
11:46:26AM BUT FIX THE PROBLEM.
11:46:28AM FIX IT FOR PALMA CEIA PINES.
11:46:30AM FIX IT SO THEIR HOUSES DON'T FLOOD ANYMORE.
11:46:32AM I THINK THIS IS A BAD PLAN, NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
11:46:36AM NO BID DESIGN-BUILD BAD IDEA.

11:46:38AM THERE'S GOT TO BE OTHER OPTIONS.
11:46:40AM GOT TO BE BETTER OPTIONS THAT WILL REALLY FIX THE PROBLEM.
11:46:43AM QUICK COMMENT ON THE TREES.
11:46:46AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THE
11:46:49AM AESTHETICS OF THE TREE, THINK OF THE MONEY.
11:46:52AM TREES SAVE MONEY.
11:46:53AM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR IN STORMWATER AND FLOODING
11:46:56AM DAMAGE IS PREVENTED BY THE TREES.
11:46:58AM MATURE LIVE OAK CAPTURES OVER 35 THOUSAND GALLONS OF WATER
11:47:04AM WHEN WE HAVE AN EVENT LIKE THIS.
11:47:06AM SO ALL WATER THEY HAD IN THEIR HOUSE, IF THOSE TREES HAD NOT
11:47:09AM BEEN THERE, THEY WOULD HAVE HAD MORE WATER.
11:47:12AM BUT YOU DON'T SEE THAT.
11:47:13AM YOU DON'T HAVE THIS GIANT RAIN GAUGE THAT SAYS, OH, LOOK AT
11:47:17AM ALL THE WATER THE TREES PREVENTED FROM GOING IN THEIR HOUSE.
11:47:20AM ELIMINATING THE TREES IS A BAD IDEA.
11:47:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:47:24AM POYNOR, MENTESNOT, STEVE MICHELINI.
11:47:28AM GOOD MORNING.
11:47:30AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:47:36AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:47:38AM I NEED TO TAKE AND ZOOM OUT.
11:47:43AM WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU IS A COPY OF THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE
11:47:45AM PLAN.
11:47:46AM PAGE 248.

11:47:47AM IT SAYS THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LIMITING PUBLIC
11:47:51AM EXPENDITURES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
11:47:54AM HAZARD UNLESS IT CAN DEMONSTRATE.
11:47:57AM AND THEN I HAVE A LITTLE BOX AROUND IT.
11:48:00AM ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE HARDENING OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:48:02AM BUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THIS COUNCIL APPROVED $26 MILLION TO BE
11:48:06AM SPENT ON A RIVERWALK.
11:48:07AM IT VIOLATES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:48:10AM IT'S IN VIOLATION OF THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THIS
11:48:14AM LANGUAGE IS IN THE NEXT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:48:16AM THAT $26 MILLION SHOULD BE SPENT ON THESE PROJECTS.
11:48:19AM I GOT BAD NEWS FOR THESE FOLKS HERE.
11:48:22AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS, BUT THEY ARE DOING A
11:48:24AM PROJECT IN THE SOUTH PENINSULA.
11:48:30AM THIS IS OUR PROJECT IN THE SOUTH PENINSULA.
11:48:34AM THE MacDILL 48.
11:48:36AM LOOK, IT WAS APPROVED THE SAME YEAR AS THESE FOLKS' PROJECT.
11:48:43AM I GOT AN INVITATION TO THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR NOVEMBER 12.
11:48:47AM BUT THEIR PROJECT LOOKS LIKE THIS.
11:48:50AM I KEEP ASKING YOU ALL TO LOOK AT THIS LITTLE THING.
11:48:54AM BUT I CAN'T FIGURE OUT, I'M LIKE, WOW, THIS IS A NEW
11:48:57AM PROJECT.
11:48:57AM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD ABOUT IT.
11:48:59AM IT'S ONLY BEING TALKED ABOUT NOW.
11:49:03AM IT'S KIND OF -- UP.

11:49:05AM I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE STORMWATER
11:49:08AM ASSESSMENTS AND I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I WILL SAY THIS
11:49:12AM AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, IF I'M WRONG, LET THE BUDGET
11:49:17AM PEOPLE, LET REVENUE AND FINANCE COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT,
11:49:20AM BUT THIS WAS THE BIG MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT OF OUR
11:49:24AM STORMWATER ASSESSMENTS AND 78% OF IT WAS SPENT ON PERSONNEL.
11:49:29AM THEY WEREN'T LAYING IT IN FRONT OF THESE PEOPLE'S HOUSES
11:49:33AM KEEPING WATER OUT.
11:49:35AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
11:50:01AM IT DOES, BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO DO IT.
11:50:03AM WE HAVE PROBLEMS, HUGE PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY
11:50:07AM THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
11:50:08AM ACCORDING TO -- ON THE 17th OF OCTOBER, THERE WERE 6306
11:50:17AM HOUSES THAT WERE DESTROYED AT LEAST TO SOME DEGREE.
11:50:20AM 6300.
11:50:21AM THAT IS A LOT OF FRICKIN' PEOPLE.
11:50:27AM I'M AMAZED WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE CITY
11:50:30AM COMING IN HERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
11:50:32AM I'M AMAZED THAT THOSE FOLKS AREN'T HERE.
11:50:34AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:50:34AM BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE AT WORK AND THESE PEOPLE HAD TO GO
11:50:38AM TO WORK TODAY, TOO.
11:50:40AM YOU'VE BEEN OUT AND TALKED TO THEM.
11:50:41AM YOU'VE MET WITH THEM.
11:50:43AM DO THE RIGHT THING.

11:50:43AM IT'S TIME TO RESCIND THAT CONTRACT AND DO THE RIGHT THING
11:50:47AM WITH THAT MONEY AND FIX PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
11:50:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MENTESNOT, STEVE MICHELINI, VICTOR
11:50:55AM DEMAIO.
11:50:55AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
11:50:58AM >> MENTESNOT, MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
11:51:02AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:51:07AM WANT TO SAY UHURU, MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
11:51:11AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
11:51:14AM FREEDOM.
11:51:14AM I WANT TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE PEOPLE IN
11:51:18AM PALESTINE.
11:51:22AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
11:51:28AM BEYOND A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE, I
11:51:32AM WANT TO HAVE A VICTORY STATEMENT FOR KAMALA HARRIS.
11:51:39AM SHE WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE BECAUSE ANYBODY WHO HAD
11:51:44AM 107 DAYS TO PREPARE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND STILL RECEIVE
11:51:49AM MILLIONS OF VOTES, VERY COURAGEOUS AND VERY COMMENDABLE.
11:51:56AM ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TEACH MY KIDS, ALL OF MY KIDS,
11:52:01AM FROM THE OLDEST TO THE YOUNGEST, DON'T DRINK, DON'T SMOKE,
11:52:08AM DON'T GAMBLE, DON'T BE DISHONEST, DON'T LIE, AND ALWAYS TRY
11:52:16AM TO BE HONORABLE.
11:52:20AM I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO OFF COURSE.
11:52:24AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BET RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
11:52:31AM ALTHOUGH TEACH MY KIDS, DON'T GAMBLE, NO MATTER WHAT, THAT

11:52:34AM IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY,
11:52:37AM GAMBLING.
11:52:37AM NOT POLICE VIOLENCE, NOT UNEMPLOYMENT, NOT POVERTY, NOT
11:52:43AM MISEDUCATION OR DE-EDUCATION.
11:52:46AM GAMBLING, NOT BELIEVING IN GOD AND ALL THE STUPIDNESS THAT
11:52:49AM GOES WITH IT, GAMBLING IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM INSIDE THE
11:52:53AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT OF RESTRAINT TO
11:52:58AM STAY AWAY FROM IT.
11:52:59AM YOU CAN WIN THIS WIN THAT, DO THIS, DO THAT, GET RICH QUICK,
11:53:03AM ALL KIND OF GET-RICH-QUICK SCHEMES.
11:53:06AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE A BET RIGHT NOW.
11:53:13AM GO OUTSIDE OF MY WAY OF THINKING AND MY BELIEFS AND MAKE A
11:53:16AM BET RIGHT NOW.
11:53:17AM A BET IF IT FLOODS AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM, A BET THEY'LL
11:53:23AM HAVE IT FIXED BY TOMORROW.
11:53:24AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:53:25AM IF IT FLOOD AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM TONIGHT, THAT FLOODING
11:53:30AM PROBLEM WOULD BE FIXED TOMORROW.
11:53:32AM AND IF YOU PULL OLD VIDEOS, YOU WOULD SEE FOR 40 YEARS I'VE
11:53:39AM BEEN COMPLAINING, FLOODING ON BAYSHORE, FLOODING IN SOUTH
11:53:43AM TAMPA.
11:53:44AM FLOODING AT HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY, EXCESSIVE FLOODING.
11:53:48AM NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.
11:53:50AM THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE TO BE MORE SENSITIVE TO THE PEOPLE'S
11:53:55AM NEEDS.

11:53:56AM AND THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
11:53:59AM THAT'S WHY THE PEOPLE ELECT YOU TO DO THESE THINGS.
11:54:02AM LIKE THE PEOPLE SAY, THE RIVERWALK AND OTHER THINGS, ALL
11:54:04AM THESE BLUE LIGHTS PUTTING ON THE RIVER, IT'S TIME FOR THAT
11:54:08AM TO STOP.
11:54:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:13AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:54:13AM GOOD MORNING, MR. STEVE MICHELINI, MR. VICTOR DEMAIO,
11:54:20AM MS. SUZANNE FERNANDEZ.
11:54:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:54:25AM STEVE MICHELINI.
11:54:26AM I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL LAST NIGHT.
11:54:31AM THE ISSUE HERE, WE'RE PLAYING THE BLAME GAME.
11:54:35AM THE PEOPLE IN PARKLAND ARE BLAMING THE BUSINESSES FOR
11:54:38AM STOPPING THIS PROJECT OR BECAUSE THEY CAUSED THIS PROJECT.
11:54:42AM EVERY NEW PROJECT, EVERY SINGLE NEW PROJECT HAS TO MEET
11:54:45AM STORMWATER CODES.
11:54:46AM WHEN A PROJECT COMES TO YOU, WE'VE ALWAYS NOTED YOU CANNOT
11:54:51AM WAIVE STORMWATER REQUIREMENTS.
11:54:52AM THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR THAT.
11:54:53AM NEW PROJECTS HAVE TO COME IN, APPROXIMATELY 16-INCH DRAINAGE
11:55:01AM PIPES.
11:55:01AM THEY CONNECT TO THE CITY SYSTEM, WHICH IS A HUNDRED YEARS
11:55:04AM OLD, AND THEY ARE 8-INCH PIPES.

11:55:07AM SO YOU HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WATER TRYING TO GET THROUGH
11:55:12AM FROM 16 INCHES TO 8 INCHES.
11:55:14AM ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES, PEOPLE CONTINUE TO PUT TRASH AND
11:55:21AM DEBRIS IN FRONT OF STORMWATER INLETS.
11:55:23AM I SEND OUT PROBABLY A DOZEN E-MAILS OVER THE LAST WEEK OR
11:55:28AM SO, DON'T PUT TRASH OUT THERE.
11:55:31AM DON'T PUT YOUR TREES AND LIMBS OUT THERE NEXT TO THE CURB
11:55:34AM AND NEXT TO YOUR STORMWATER.
11:55:35AM THEY KEEP DOING IT.
11:55:37AM SOUTH HOWARD IS VERY NARROW.
11:55:40AM THERE IS NO ROOM.
11:55:42AM WE ASKED THE CITY TO CONSIDER ONE LANE SHUT DOWN, THEY SAID
11:55:46AM NO.
11:55:46AM THEY CAN'T DO IT.
11:55:47AM YOU HAVE TO SHUT DOWN THE ENTIRE STREET.
11:55:50AM THAT DOESN'T AFFECT JUST THAT BLOCK.
11:55:52AM IT AFFECTS THE BLOCK AHEAD OF IT.
11:55:54AM IT AFFECTS THE BLOCKS TWO BLOCKS BEHIND IT.
11:55:58AM YOU CAN'T GET PURVEYORS THROUGH.
11:56:00AM YOU CAN'T GET SOLID WASTE THROUGH.
11:56:02AM YOU CAN'T GET AMBULANCES THROUGH, FIRE TRUCKS, NOTHING, AND
11:56:06AM THERE IS NO WALK AROUND BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PARALLEL
11:56:09AM STREETS THAT SERVICE THE AREA.
11:56:10AM YOU CAN SEE BASICALLY THE SOHO OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIRES THE
11:56:17AM BUILDINGS TO BE PUSHED UP TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY LINE.

11:56:20AM THERE ISN'T ANY ROOM.
11:56:22AM SO IT'S NOT JUST A MINOR INCONVENIENCE.
11:56:25AM IT IS A DEATH KNELL TO THE BUSINESSES.
11:56:30AM THEY CANNOT SURVIVE.
11:56:31AM DURING THE STORM WHEN THEY WERE SHUT OFF FOR ELECTRICITY,
11:56:34AM SHUT OFF FOR SIX OR SEVEN DAYS, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES LOST
11:56:38AM 80% OF THE INCOME.
11:56:40AM WE TALKED TO TECO, AND I KNOW TECO IS INVOLVED IN THIS AS
11:56:43AM WELL.
11:56:43AM THEY'LL RUN THE LINES UNDERGROUND ON THE STREET SIDE.
11:56:48AM THE CONNECTION FEES ARE $300,000 PER BUSINESS OR MORE.
11:56:53AM WHEN YOU HAVE A SYSTEM AND A STORMWATER SYSTEM THAT RELIES
11:57:00AM ON GRAVITY SYSTEM TRYING TO GET IT TO THE BAY, WHAT HAPPENS
11:57:04AM WITH THE SURGE?
11:57:04AM YOUR PIPES FILL UP.
11:57:06AM THEY CAN'T GO OUT TO THE BAY.
11:57:07AM THEY CAN'T GO ANYWHERE.
11:57:09AM THE MAINTENANCE, YOU HAVE STORMWATER INLETS THAT ARE UPHILL
11:57:12AM FROM BASINS.
11:57:14AM THAT'S TRUE IN PARKLAND ESTATES.
11:57:15AM THEY ARE UPHILL FROM WHERE THE WATER IS.
11:57:18AM THE SAME THING IS TRUE IN NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
11:57:24AM SERIOUS ATTENTION HAS TO BE GIVEN TO ALL OF THIS.
11:57:27AM MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, RECONSTRUCTION, ADDING INLETS THAT
11:57:31AM ACTUALLY WORK WHERE THE WATER GOES.

11:57:33AM THANK YOU.
11:57:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:57:36AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:57:36AM VICTOR DEMAIO, SUZANNE FERNANDEZ AND JARROD DYER.
11:57:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:57:47AM VICTOR DEMAIO.
11:57:48AM MY OFFICE IS 1205 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, SUITE 103.
11:57:54AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING BERN'S STEAK HOUSE, EPICUREAN HOTEL
11:58:01AM AND HAVEN.
11:58:02AM WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF REASONS TO OPPOSE THIS PROJECT.
11:58:04AM THOSE ARE THE HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES THAT BERN'S EMPLOYS,
11:58:07AM EPICUREAN EMPLOYS AND HAVEN AS WELL.
11:58:12AM I THOUGHT IT WAS THREE YEARS.
11:58:14AM LAST REPORT, IT IS A FOUR-YEAR PROJECT.
11:58:17AM THIS WOULD DESTROY OUR BUSINESS.
11:58:19AM BERN'S HAS BEEN AROUND ABOUT 70 YEARS.
11:58:21AM PEOPLE COME HERE TO TAMPA FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO COME TO
11:58:25AM BERN'S ESTABLISHING HOUSE TO HAVE DINNER.
11:58:27AM THEY STAY AT THE EPICUREAN, HAVE DINNER AT BERN'S.
11:58:31AM ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE SO FAMOUS, WE HAVE THE LARGEST
11:58:34AM PRIVATELY HELD WINE COLLECTION IN THE WORLD.
11:58:36AM THIS IS NOT FLORIDA, U.S., THE ENTIRE WORLD.
11:58:38AM NO ONE HAS A LARGER WINE COLLECTION.
11:58:40AM WE HAVE OVER A MILLION BOTTLES OF WINE.
11:58:43AM A LOT OF THAT WINE IS STORED IN A BUILDING YOU SEE WHEN YOU

11:58:46AM COME INTO BERN'S THAT'S INCHES AWAY FROM THIS PROPOSED
11:58:49AM PROJECT.
11:58:49AM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DON'T REALIZE IS WHEN WE BUILT THE
11:58:54AM EPICUREAN ACROSS THE STREET, WITH HE HAD TO PUMP WATER FOR
11:58:57AM MONTHS.
11:58:57AM WHEN YOU START DIGGING THAT HOLE TO PUT THE 30-FOOT CULVERT,
11:59:03AM THIS ISN'T A LITTLE PIPE.
11:59:05AM IT IS A PIPE WE LITERALLY COULD WALK THROUGH AND STAND UP.
11:59:07AM IT'S GOING TO FILL IN WITH WATER.
11:59:10AM WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE BUILDING INCHES AWAY THAT IS
11:59:13AM 120 YEARS OLD IF IT FALLS INTO THAT HOLE.
11:59:16AM DOWN THE STREET, BAYSHORE ROYALE HOTEL.
11:59:20AM THEIR RESTAURANT HAS BEEN CONDEMNED.
11:59:22AM EVERYONE IN THE BUILDING IS FREAKING OUT, WITHOUT THE HOLE
11:59:26AM BEING DUG, IT'S IN SERIOUS TROUBLE RIGHT NOW.
11:59:29AM THAT'S JUST A BLOCK FROM BAYSHORE.
11:59:31AM LIKE I SAID BY THE COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY, IF YOU BUILD THIS,
11:59:35AM SPEND $70 MILLION ON THIS NO BID CONTRACT, AND THAT WATER IS
11:59:39AM HEADING DOWN TO BAYSHORE AND HIGH TIDE, WHERE IS THE WATER
11:59:42AM GOING TO GO.
11:59:42AM IT'S GOING TO COME BACK UP.
11:59:44AM THERE'S GOT TO BE A LITTLE MORE THOUGHT ON THIS.
11:59:46AM ONE OF THE LADIES HERE THAT SPOKE, SHE GAVE AN ALTERNATIVE,
11:59:51AM WHY NOT GO DOWN MacDILL.
11:59:53AM HOWARD, AS YOU KNOW, IS TWO WAY ROAD.

12:00:00PM EPICUREAN, CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY, CAN'T GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT
12:00:03PM OF THERE.
12:00:04PM CONTRACTS WITH LARGEST AIRLINES IN THE WORLD, EVERY VISITING
12:00:07PM HOCKEY TEAM THAT COMES TO TAMPA STAYS AT THE EPICUREAN
12:00:11PM HOTEL.
12:00:12PM WE WOULD LOSE ALL THAT BUSINESS.
12:00:14PM WEDDINGS BOOKED UP NOW FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
12:00:16PM WHAT WILL WE TELL THOSE PEOPLE?
12:00:18PM I'M BEGGING YOU FOR AN ALTERNATIVE.
12:00:20PM WE CAN PUT A MAN ON THE ROOM, YOU CAN SET A PIPE DOWN
12:00:24PM MacDILL AS SOON AS YOU CAN, HOWARD.
12:00:26PM I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COUNCIL DEMAND THAT THE ENGINEERS COME
12:00:30PM OUT WITH ALTERNATIVE PLANS AND STUDY THIS A LITTLE BIT
12:00:33PM HARDER.
12:00:33PM I TALKED TO TWO MAYORS, BY THE WAY, THAT TOLD ME THEY HAD
12:00:36PM THIS PROJECT ON THEIR DESKS YEARS AGO AND THEY TURNED IT
12:00:40PM DOWN BECAUSE THEY DID NOT WANT TO DESTROY ALL THE BUSINESSES
12:00:44PM ON HOWARD.
12:00:44PM HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN, THEY TOLD HER
12:00:47PM 15, 20 MINUTES.
12:00:49PM YOU HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
12:00:50PM WE FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND ESTATES AND --
12:00:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:00:55PM >> WE'RE SITTING HERE WILLING TO HELP AND LISTEN TO WHAT
12:00:58PM EVERYBODY HAS TO SAY.

12:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SUZANNE FERNANDEZ, JARROD DYER,
12:01:01PM ANNELIESE MEIER.
12:01:04PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:01:05PM I'M SUZANNE FERNANDEZ.
12:01:06PM I'VE OWNED PROPERTY IN THE PALMA CEIA PINES AREA FOR OVER 20
12:01:12PM YEARS.
12:01:13PM I PROVIDE HOUSING FOR OVER 30 FAMILIES.
12:01:18PM I THINK I'M A GREAT LANDLORD, PERSONALLY.
12:01:20PM BUT OUT OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THE RECENT FLOODING OF MILTON,
12:01:24PM I'VE GOT 14 RESIDENTS THAT ARE HOMELESS.
12:01:27PM THIS IS A FLOOD ZONE X, NON-EVACUATION ZONE.
12:01:32PM AND EVERYTHING THEY HAVE IS DESTROYED.
12:01:34PM I SPENT OVER SIX FIGURES TO DATE AND MAY BE HALFWAY THROUGH
12:01:39PM PUTTING THEIR RESIDENCE BACK TOGETHER FOR THEM.
12:01:42PM THESE PEOPLE HAD NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
12:01:44PM I HAD NO FLOOD INSURANCE.
12:01:46PM SO WHAT SCARES THE BEJESUS OUT OF ME IS YOU GUYS KEEP
12:01:51PM KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
12:01:53PM YOU ARE NOT STEPPING UP TO THE PLATE AND MAKING A REALLY
12:01:55PM HARD DECISION ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
12:01:58PM UNTIL YOU'VE BEEN FLOODED AND PUT UP WITH THE MESS OR
12:02:01PM LISTENED TO THE SAD STORIES OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS AND
12:02:03PM HAVE LOST EVERYTHING, YOU GOT TO GET YOUR PRIORITIES
12:02:07PM STRAIGHT ON THIS.
12:02:08PM AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO.

12:02:11PM BECAUSE IN THESE 20 YEARS, I'VE NEVER HAD FLOODING LIKE
12:02:15PM THIS.
12:02:15PM NINE YEARS AGO IN 2015, THERE WAS A FLOODING EVENT AT HABANA
12:02:19PM AND HORATIO.
12:02:21PM YOU ALL HAD NINE YEARS TO ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM AND NOTHING
12:02:25PM HAS TAKEN PLACE.
12:02:27PM THIS SUMMER, YOU WERE NOTIFIED SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE THE
12:02:29PM WATER WAS NOW AFTER A SMALL RAINSTORM, ACCUMULATING IN THE
12:02:34PM YARDS AND COMING UP THE BUILDING, UP ON THE SIDE OF THE
12:02:37PM BUILDING.
12:02:37PM AND IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF TIME UNTIL SOMETHING HIT THE
12:02:42PM TIPPING POINT AND THE WATER WAS GOING TO BE INSIDE.
12:02:44PM IT SHOULDN'T COME AS A SURPRISE TO YOU.
12:02:46PM BUT WHAT I AM DISAPPOINTED IN IS YOU HAVE NOT BROUGHT IT
12:02:49PM UPON YOURSELVES TO MAKE THE REAL HARD DECISION TO PROCEED
12:02:53PM WITH TAKING CARE OF THE FLOODING PROBLEMS IN OUR
12:02:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:02:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:59PM [ APPLAUSE ]
12:02:59PM JARROD DYER.
12:03:02PM ANNELIESE MEIER.
12:03:03PM JACKSON.
12:03:07PM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
12:03:09PM >> JARROD DYER.
12:03:10PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

12:03:12PM I REPRESENT ONE OF THE BUSINESSES ON SOUTH HOWARD.
12:03:19PM OF COURSE, WE HAVE SYMPATHY FOR THE SITUATION FACED BY THE
12:03:22PM RESIDENTS OF THE FLOODED AREAS.
12:03:24PM ALL THEIR STORIES ARE JUST HORRIBLE.
12:03:26PM I CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE.
12:03:29PM DISRUPTION IS AN INSUFFICIENT WORD TO DESCRIBE WHAT THEY
12:03:32PM HAVE EXPERIENCED.
12:03:33PM AND ALSO WHAT THE BUSINESSES WOULD FACE IF THE SOUTH HOWARD
12:03:36PM FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT MOVES FORWARD IN ITS CURRENT STATE.
12:03:40PM LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS TO DATE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE
12:03:43PM RESIDENTS DON'T WANT THE CULVERTS TO GO THROUGH THEIR
12:03:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF DISRUPTION, BUT THEY ARE FINE WITH
12:03:48PM PUSHING THAT ONTO ANOTHER AREA OF THE CITY WHICH WOULD NOT
12:03:52PM ONLY AFFECT THE BUSINESSES ALONG HOWARD AVENUE CORRIDOR BUT
12:03:55PM ALL OF THE RESIDENTS AND ALL OF THE STREETS THAT FEED INTO
12:03:57PM THAT.
12:03:58PM HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC FROM VENDORS
12:04:04PM TRYING TO GET TO THE RESTAURANT, YOU CAN'T TAKE A SEMITRUCK
12:04:07PM DOWN THOSE STREETS.
12:04:09PM AND WE'VE HEARD SUGGESTIONS FROM THE CITY THAT WE SHOULD ASK
12:04:11PM OUR VENDORS TO USE SMALLER TRUCKS.
12:04:14PM THERE WAS ALSO A SUGGESTION FROM MOBILITY THAT THEY WOULD
12:04:16PM GET GOLF CARTS TO FERRY CUSTOMERS TO THE BUSINESSES AND TO
12:04:23PM HELP DELIVERIES.
12:04:24PM THAT'S JUST COMPLETELY IMPLAUSIBLE AND IMPOSSIBLE.

12:04:28PM THE ISSUE FOR US BUSINESSES ISN'T THAT WE'RE BEING
12:04:30PM INCONVENIENCED OR THAT WE'RE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE HOMES
12:04:32PM AND BUSINESSES IN THE FLOODED AREAS, AS ONE OF THE TV
12:04:38PM STORIES MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT SOMEONE PLAYED, THE PROJECT
12:04:42PM WOULD REDUCE FLOODING ON SOUTH HOWARD, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
12:04:46PM FLOODING ON SOUTH HOWARD.
12:04:47PM WHAT HAPPENS IS WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF ALL OF THE WORK, ALL OF
12:04:50PM THE DISRUPTION.
12:04:52PM WE HAVEN'T SEEN TALKED ABOUT THE STAGING OF THE EQUIPMENT TO
12:04:54PM DO THIS KIND OF PROJECT.
12:04:55PM WHERE DO YOU PUT IT HAS MACHINES?
12:04:57PM DON'T DRIVE THEM AWAY AND PUT THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
12:04:59PM THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:05:01PM WE BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE HARDSHIP BUT NO UP SIDE.
12:05:04PM THE SOUTH HOWARD BUSINESSES, OF COURSE, ARE SYMPATHETIC TO
12:05:08PM WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PARKLAND ESTATES AND PALMA CEIA PINES.
12:05:12PM BUT WE'LL SUPPORT ANY EFFORTS BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SUPPORT
12:05:17PM A PROJECT THAT WOULD LIKELY PUT US OUT OF BUSINESS.
12:05:19PM THAT IS THE REALITY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
12:05:22PM BEEN THERE NEARLY 40 YEARS.
12:05:23PM GOT THROUGH THE 2008 RECESSION.
12:05:26PM GOT THROUGH COVID, BUT COULDN'T SURVIVE A FOUR-YEAR
12:05:28PM DISRUPTION OF TRAFFIC ON HOWARD AVENUE.
12:05:30PM CUSTOMERS SEE IT AS DON'T WANT TO GO ON THAT WHOLE SIDE OF
12:05:36PM TOWN AND WOULD AFFECT EVERYONE THERE.

12:05:39PM OH, THE FOUR BLOCK SECTION OF WHERE MY RESTAURANT IS
12:05:43PM ACCESSIBLE NOW.
12:05:44PM THEY GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, HOWARD AVENUE IS A MESS, I DON'T
12:05:46PM EVEN WANT TO DEAL WITH IT.
12:05:48PM SOMEBODY WHO COMES EVERY WEEK, THEY MAY KNOW WHAT'S GOING
12:05:51PM ON.
12:05:52PM PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
12:05:54PM PEOPLE WHO LIVE OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD DON'T KNOW.
12:05:58PM COME DOWN ONCE A MONTH, TWICE A MONTH, EVERY TIME, THEY HAVE
12:06:01PM TO TAKE A DIFFERENT DETOUR, THEY'LL STOP COMING.
12:06:04PM THAT MEANS WE'LL LOSE OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T LIVE
12:06:07PM WITHOUT US MAKING MONEY.
12:06:09PM HYPOTHETICALLY WE CAN REOPEN, WHERE ARE THOSE EMPLOYEES
12:06:13PM GONE?
12:06:13PM WE LOST ALL OF THEM.
12:06:14PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:06:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANNELIESE MEIER.
12:06:17PM VANESHA JACKSON.
12:06:20PM DAVID ADAMS WHO WAS HERE EARLIER.
12:06:22PM I WAS TOLD HE LEFT.
12:06:23PM SIMMY CAMPBELL AND RYAN HAYES.
12:06:27PM THOSE ARE THE REMAINING SPEAKERS.
12:06:29PM HERE YOU GO.
12:07:27PM THIS IS FOR YOU.
12:07:28PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

12:07:29PM YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR THREE MINUTES.
12:07:31PM >> ANNELIESE MEIER.
12:07:32PM GOOD MORNING, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
12:07:34PM I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HAD A LOT OF SLEEPLESS NIGHTS RECENTLY.
12:07:38PM AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
12:07:40PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING PROJECT.
12:07:45PM CITY COUNCIL ASKED STAFF TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT ROUTES AND NOT
12:07:48PM TEAR APART A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:07:50PM APPARENTLY THE CITY STAFF IGNORED YOU WITH THE REPORT COMING
12:07:54PM LATER TODAY.
12:07:55PM THIS PROJECT IS DESIGN-BUILD.
12:07:58PM THIS IS BASICALLY AN OPEN CHECKBOOK BY THE CITY TO THE
12:08:02PM CONTRACTOR.
12:08:03PM LOOK NO FURTHER THAN TO AGENDA ITEMS 29 AND 30 TO SEE I AM
12:08:08PM CORRECT.
12:08:08PM THAT'S TODAY'S AGENDA.
12:08:09PM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WRITTEN TO CONFUSE THE PUBLIC, CONFUSE
12:08:14PM YOU.
12:08:14PM HAS NOT BEEN TRANSPARENT.
12:08:16PM AND MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT FULLY.
12:08:19PM THIS PROJECT ONLY MAKES MONEY FOR THE FIRM AWARDED THE
12:08:22PM PROJECT.
12:08:22PM GET THE CHECKBOOK READY.
12:08:25PM YOUR PACKET SHOWS THE SIGN-IN SHEET FROM THE PREBID
12:08:29PM CONFERENCE.

12:08:30PM SINCE WHEN ARE $65 MILLION PROJECTS NON-MANDATORY TO ATTEND?
12:08:33PM THIS MEANS STAFF MEMBERS ARE PRIVATELY TALKING TO FIRMS WHO
12:08:37PM ARE BIDDING.
12:08:38PM PLEASE NOTE THE FIRM THAT IS TO BE AWARDED THIS PROJECT DID
12:08:41PM NOT ATTEND THE CONFERENCE.
12:08:43PM YOU'LL ALSO SEE MY NAME AS THE FIRST NAME ON THERE.
12:08:47PM DO WE HAVE TO ASK FOR PUBLIC RECORDS OF STAFF PHONE CALLS
12:08:51PM NOW.
12:08:52PM WE HAVE SOMEBODY HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO IS VERY GOOD AT
12:08:54PM THAT.
12:08:55PM THIS PACKET ALSO INCLUDES THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT
12:08:59PM REPORT FROM FISCAL YEAR '24.
12:09:02PM THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT REPORT IN YOUR PACKET.
12:09:04PM THERE IS NO LINE ITEM FOR ANY BOX CULVERT.
12:09:07PM THIS PROJECT IS FULL OF BOX CULVERTS.
12:09:11PM THE CITY WEBSITE CLEARLY STATES NUMEROUS CULVERTS ARE OVER
12:09:15PM 75 YEARS OLD AND NEED MAINTENANCE, YET THE BUDGET THIS YEAR
12:09:19PM HAS NOTHING IN IT FOR MAINTENANCE.
12:09:22PM LOOK AT THE PUMP LINE ITEM.
12:09:24PM IT STATES PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROVIDED TO ALL 13
12:09:28PM STORMWATER PUMP STATIONS.
12:09:31PM THAT'S SAYING THEY DID THIS.
12:09:32PM WE KNOW EVERY ONE OF OUR PUMP STATIONS FAILED IN THESE LAST
12:09:36PM STORMS.
12:09:37PM NO MAINTENANCE WAS DONE.

12:09:40PM CLEARLY, WE ARE BEING LIED TO.
12:09:42PM THERE ARE COMPLETED STORMWATER PROJECTS ON THE CITY WEBSITE
12:09:44PM WHICH HAVE FAILED HORRIBLY EVEN BEFORE THE HURRICANES.
12:09:48PM I HAVE PROVIDED ONE OF THEM IN YOUR PACKET WHICH JUST
12:09:50PM HAPPENS TO BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.
12:09:54PM AND IT ONLY ADDED TO THE MASSIVE FLOODING IN MY
12:09:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:09:57PM THESE FLOODWATERS ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE NORTH,
12:10:01PM WHICH IS PALMA CEIA PINES.
12:10:03PM THAT ISSUE IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED WITH THIS PROJECT.
12:10:06PM A SOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS THE CITY BALLPARK
12:10:09PM BETWEEN THE OLD WINN DIXIE AND THE CROSSTOWN.
12:10:12PM THIS IS A VERY LARGE AREA THAT COULD BE USED FOR WATER
12:10:15PM STORAGE AND THE PARK BUILT BACK ON TOP.
12:10:17PM THIS LINE COULD GO DOWN SWANN BOULEVARD.
12:10:20PM THE EXPRESSWAY AUTHORITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR
12:10:24PM WATER RUNOFF WHEN THEY EXPAND TO THREE LANES.
12:10:26PM THERE'S PLENTY OF EASEMENT ALONG THE CROSSTOWN FOR THIS
12:10:28PM PROJECT TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BAY.
12:10:31PM SOME OF THE CURRENT STORMWATER DRAINS ALREADY GO TO THE
12:10:33PM CROSSTOWN.
12:10:35PM I DON'T HAVE THE STORMWATER MAP, BUT YOU CLEARLY CAN SEE
12:10:37PM WHERE THE BALLPARK IS AND IT'S IN THE ASSESSMENT AREA.
12:10:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:10:42PM >> THANK YOU.

12:10:42PM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
12:10:43PM [ APPLAUSE ]
12:10:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BENESHA JACKSON.
12:10:49PM SIMMY CAMPBELL.
12:10:54PM AND WE WILL CLOSE IT OUT WITH MR. RYAN HAYES FROM CAIRO AND
12:11:01PM FRIENDS.
12:11:01PM GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:11:03PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:11:04PM >> I'M SIMMY CAMPBELL.
12:11:05PM I WILL I HAVE IN PARKLAND ESTATES ON THE CORNER OF FOUNTAIN
12:11:09PM AND AUDUBON.
12:11:10PM I'VE LIVED THERE 29 YEARS.
12:11:14PM IN THOSE 29 YEARS WITH HEAVY RAINSTORMS, ALWAYS FLOODS,
12:11:18PM ALWAYS MULTIPLE CARS, STALLED OUT IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, IN
12:11:28PM MY HOUSE UNTIL THE WATER RECEDES.
12:11:30PM IT'S CONTINUED IN FREQUENCY TO GET WORSE.
12:11:36PM I KNOW THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT SO MANY THINGS THAT'S INVOLVED,
12:11:43PM BUT WITH THE RECENT IMPACT OF MILTON AND MY HOUSE BEING
12:11:46PM COMPLETELY DESTROYED, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE THE
12:11:51PM IMPACT IT'S HAVING ON THEIR HOMES NOW WHERE SO MUCH OF WHAT
12:11:55PM WAS UNDERNEATH THE HOUSE IS JUST WET, ROTTED WOOD, MOLD.
12:12:02PM IT REACHES FAR BEYOND WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
12:12:07PM ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT A SOLUTION.
12:12:10PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SOLUTION IS, BUT --
12:12:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

12:12:16PM MR. HAYES.
12:12:18PM COME ON UP.
12:12:20PM YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:12:22PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
12:12:23PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:12:24PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:25PM RYAN HAYES.
12:12:27PM RESERVE AN ADDITIONAL 20 SECONDS.
12:12:28PM I HAVE A VIDEO TWO MINUTES AND 12 SECONDS.
12:12:31PM NO.
12:12:31PM OKAY.
12:12:32PM IS THAT ENOUGH?
12:12:34PM IS THAT A NO?
12:12:36PM I SAW YOUR FACIAL EXPRESSION.
12:12:43PM >> WE'VE HAD THREE MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY.
12:12:53PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:12:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, CAN YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON
12:13:30PM THE THING?
12:13:33PM >> THE NEXT SEGMENT TALKS ABOUT OUR COMPLEMENTARY THERAPY
12:14:42PM SERVICES WITH OUR TWO THERAPY DOGS.
12:14:44PM I'VE BEEN COMING HERE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS TRYING TO
12:14:48PM EXTEND A WAY OF ANY TYPE OF INNOVATING, CREATIVE WAYS THAT
12:14:52PM POSSIBLY CAIRO AND FRIENDS COULD IMPLEMENT WITH THE CITY.
12:14:57PM I HAVE NINE QUESTIONS.
12:14:57PM I APOLOGIZE IF THEY MIGHT SEEM STRIKING.

12:15:00PM I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE
12:15:05PM CITY'S PERSPECTIVES.
12:15:07PM I'M GOING TO SEND AN E-MAIL AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN
12:15:09PM E-MAIL ME.
12:15:10PM CAN THE CITY -- CAN THE COUNCIL CITY MEMBERS PLEASE EXPLAIN
12:15:13PM THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF A 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT
12:15:18PM ORGANIZATION?
12:15:18PM DO THE CURRENT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS CURRENTLY SUPPORT A
12:15:21PM 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT DELIVERS POSITIVE AND
12:15:24PM MEASURABLE OUTCOMES OUTSIDE OF A RELIGIOUS ENTITY?
12:15:28PM IF SO, WHAT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION?
12:15:31PM CAN YOU RECALL THE LAST TIME THAT AN INDIVIDUAL ON THE
12:15:33PM RECORD HAS STATED THAT THEY ARE A PART OF THE IMPAIRED
12:15:37PM COMMUNITY, BESIDES MYSELF AND ACCOMPANYING MY SERVICE DOG
12:15:40PM CAIRO.
12:15:41PM DO YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE AGE AND THE ETHNICITY OF A PRESIDENT
12:15:46PM FOR A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION IN THE U.S.
12:15:49PM DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE AN ACTIVE PILOT OR INCUBATION
12:15:53PM PROGRAM THAT HELPS AND ASSISTS WITH LOCAL NONPROFIT
12:15:56PM ORGANIZATIONS?
12:15:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:15:57PM CAN YOU E-MAIL US ALL THOSE QUESTIONS?
12:16:03PM >> YES, SIR.
12:16:03PM LAST QUESTION, WHAT DO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ASK WHEN
12:16:06PM THEY WERE RUNNING FOR THEIR CAMPAIGN TO HOLD THEIR CURRENT

12:16:09PM SEATS?
12:16:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:16:11PM >> THANK YOU.
12:16:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:16:11PM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:16:13PM I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA.
12:16:17PM SORRY.
12:16:24PM WE HAVE AN ITEM 4.
12:16:25PM CITY CLERK.
12:16:26PM SIMONE SAVINO IS HERE.
12:16:30PM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS OUR CITY CLERK AND KICKS US OFF.
12:16:37PM DOES SHE NEED TO BE HERE, MS. HARRIS?
12:16:39PM SIMONE SAVINO, YOU ARE EXPRESSING AN INTEREST TO BEING
12:16:43PM APPOINTED TO A POSITION ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
12:16:46PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PRESENTATION EXPRESSING
12:16:49PM YOUR INTEREST.
12:16:49PM I KNOW THAT YOU ARE A FORMER ATTORNEY HERE WITH THE CITY OF
12:16:52PM TAMPA.
12:16:53PM SO YOU'RE NO STRANGER HERE.
12:16:55PM GO AHEAD.
12:16:55PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:16:57PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO PRESENT.
12:16:58PM YOU ARE THE ONLY APPLICANT FOR THIS.
12:17:01PM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
12:17:02PM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.

12:17:04PM MY NAME IS SIMONE SAVINO.
12:17:07PM I AM AN ATTORNEY AND BEFORE YOU TODAY BECAUSE I'M REQUESTING
12:17:09PM YOUR APPROVAL FOR APPOINTMENT TO THE TAMPA VARIANCE REVIEW
12:17:13PM BOARD.
12:17:15PM I FEEL AS IF I AM UNIQUELY SITUATED TO SERVE ON THE TAMPA
12:17:21PM VRB IN THE ATTORNEY POSITION, BECAUSE, AS YOU STATED, I AM A
12:17:27PM PRIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:17:29PM I SERVED AS THE ATTORNEY FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WHILE
12:17:34PM I WAS AN EMPLOYEE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:17:35PM I UNDERSTAND THE CODE.
12:17:40PM I UNDERSTAND THE STATUTES, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THE BOARD IS
12:17:43PM SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION PROCEDURALLY.
12:17:47PM CURRENTLY, I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY WORKING IN THE PRIVATE
12:17:51PM SECTOR WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
12:17:53PM I ACTUALLY PREPARE AND HANDLE APPLICATIONS FOR VARIANCE
12:18:00PM REVIEW BOARDS IN OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT JURISDICTIONS
12:18:04PM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
12:18:04PM I NOW PREPARE THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS IN MY CURRENT JOB,
12:18:12PM AND I FEEL AS IF RETURNING TO THE CITY I'M BEYOND MY TWO
12:18:17PM YEARS OF DISTANCE.
12:18:18PM YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE ABOUT A TWO-YEAR HIATUS WHEN
12:18:21PM LEAVING THE CITY ATTORNEY AND TAKING ON A ROLE WITH THE CITY
12:18:24PM OR ANYWHERE WORKING WITH THE CITY.
12:18:27PM I FEEL LIKE THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE MY EXPERIENCE
12:18:31PM WELL.

12:18:31PM I WILL BE ABLE TO USE MY LAND USE BACKGROUND TO SERVE THE
12:18:37PM COMMUNITY.
12:18:37PM AND IF APPOINTED, I LOOK FORWARD TO FULFILLING THIS CIVIC
12:18:41PM DUTY.
12:18:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:18:42PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:18:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM
12:18:48PM ANY CASE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU THAT IS FROM YOUR LAW OFFICE
12:18:53PM IN ENTIRETY?
12:18:55PM >> YES.
12:18:55PM I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT WOULD TAKE.
12:18:58PM THERE IS A SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF SCREENING THAT GOES ON, YOU
12:19:01PM KNOW, IF I WASN'T WORKING ON SOMETHING, I REALLY WOULD
12:19:04PM PROBABLY NOT HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE.
12:19:05PM BUT, YES, I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO WHAT IT TAKES TO SCREEN
12:19:11PM MYSELF.
12:19:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST
12:19:14PM CHOICE TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM ANYTHING FROM YOUR OFFICE
12:19:18PM JUST PERIOD, JUST FOR THAT -- THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST
12:19:22PM CONCERN.
12:19:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAD THE SAME CONCERN, CONSIDERING YOU
12:19:26PM SAID WHO YOU WORK FOR AND THEY COME HERE OFTEN.
12:19:30PM AND THEY ARE VERY CONNECTED.
12:19:32PM TO AVOID ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AS COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
12:19:36PM SAID, RECUSE YOURSELF FROM ANYTHING THAT HAS YOUR FIRM'S

12:19:39PM NAME ON IT, WHETHER YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE OR NOT, BECAUSE WE
12:19:42PM NEED A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
12:19:43PM >> SURE.
12:19:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:44PM ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
12:19:45PM SPECIAL MOTION TO APPROVE.
12:19:48PM >> SECOND.
12:19:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE IS THE SOLE APPLICANT, CORRECT?
12:19:51PM YES.
12:19:52PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:19:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:19:55PM IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS?
12:19:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:19:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY.
12:20:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I PREPARED THE RESOLUTION, IF THE MOTION
12:20:05PM COULD BE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:20:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:20:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:20:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:10PM AYE.
12:20:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:20:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:14PM >> THANK YOU.
12:20:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE BOARDS AND
12:20:18PM APPOINTMENTS.

12:20:19PM WE GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
12:20:21PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, YOU ASKED FOR NUMBER 8 TO BE A
12:20:24PM SEPARATE VOTE.
12:20:24PM DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT NOW OR UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
12:20:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST PULLING IT BECAUSE I CANNOT -- I'M
12:20:32PM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR ANY SORT OF FACIAL RECOGNITION
12:20:35PM SOFTWARE.
12:20:36PM IT'S NO AT PROVEN.
12:20:37PM A.I. REALLY CONCERNS ME.
12:20:39PM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARRESTED AND CONVICTED FOR THINGS
12:20:42PM THAT WEREN'T ACTUALLY THEM.
12:20:44PM I DON'T HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL WITH THIS.
12:20:46PM I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO VOTE NO.
12:20:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS IS YOUR
12:20:50PM COMMITTEE, SIR.
12:20:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME DO 5 THROUGH 7 AND 9 THROUGH 15.
12:20:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:20:59PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:20:59PM AYE.
12:21:00PM SEPARATE VOTE ON 8.
12:21:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 8.
12:21:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:21:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:21:06PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:21:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.

12:21:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:21:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:21:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:21:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:21:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:21:21PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTING
12:21:25PM NO --
12:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANISCALCO IS A NO.
12:21:26PM >>THE CLERK: I'M SORRY.
12:21:27PM AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
12:21:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
12:21:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TALKING ABOUT IT AFTER THE VOTE.
12:21:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M STILL SAYING NO, BUT I'M GLAD SHE
12:21:38PM BROUGHT THIS UP.
12:21:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF YOU SAY THAT, I'LL SAY THIS.
12:21:41PM I SPOKE TO CHIEF BERCAW ABOUT IT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS $27,000,
12:21:46PM IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT THE WAY THAT WE USE IT AND THE
12:21:49PM TRAINED STAFF THAT DOES USE IT IS THE REASON WHY I AM
12:21:54PM SUPPORTING IT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
12:21:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU HAVE 16 THROUGH 28.
12:22:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:22:05PM I MOVE ITEMS 16 THROUGH 28 FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
12:22:09PM AFFAIRS.

12:22:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:22:11PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:22:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:22:13PM AYE.
12:22:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION BEFORE -- WELL, NO, I
12:22:20PM MEAN, I JUST -- I ASKED THIS AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN
12:22:23PM ANSWER, WHY 19, 20, 21, AND 22 ARE POST-SPECIAL EVENT
12:22:29PM PERMITS.
12:22:31PM >> IS IT BECAUSE OF THE STORM?
12:22:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER.
12:22:34PM I WANT TO PUT THAT FORWARD TO SAY I NEVER GOT AN ANSWER WHY
12:22:37PM WE ALLOWED THESE TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT PROPER PERMITS.
12:22:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE HAPPENED ACTUALLY YESTERDAY.
12:22:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
12:22:45PM I WOULD STILL LIKE TO KNOW AN ANSWER.
12:22:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON THE ITEMS 19, 20, 21 AND 22, THEY
12:22:53PM HAVE ALREADY OCCURRED.
12:22:55PM WAS IT BECAUSE OF THE CANCELLATION FROM THE STORM OR
12:22:58PM POSTPONEMENT?
12:22:59PM DO YOU KNOW THE REASON FOR THIS?
12:23:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO NOT PERSONALLY KNOW THE REASON FOR
12:23:03PM THAT.
12:23:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHY DON'T WE JUST HOLD THOSE -- SEPARATE
12:23:09PM THEM AND HOLD THEM UNTIL ADMIN REPORT LATER.
12:23:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ALREADY VOTED.

12:23:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DIDN'T VOTE.
12:23:15PM I DIDN'T SAY YES BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET YOUR ATTENTION.
12:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECONSIDER THEN?
12:23:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, WE
12:23:24PM DID CANCEL TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
12:23:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I JUST WANT AN ANSWER.
12:23:30PM I'M NOT SAYING I'LL VOTE NO.
12:23:32PM I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY.
12:23:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY
12:23:36PM SPEAK, BUT, YOU KNOW.
12:23:37PM THAT'S JUST ME.
12:23:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:23:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO 16 THROUGH 18.
12:23:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S MY MOTION.
12:23:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS SAYING 16 THROUGH 18 AND THEN 23
12:23:56PM TO 28, WE APPROVE THEM NOW.
12:23:58PM BUT 19, 20, 21 AND 22 WE HOLD UNTIL ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
12:24:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THESE EVENTS HAVE
12:24:06PM ALREADY OCCURRED, FOR THE RECORD.
12:24:08PM WHY CAN'T WE JUST MOVE ALL OF THEM AND THEN ASK FOR AN
12:24:13PM EXPLANATION FROM STAFF BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAPPENED?
12:24:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE
12:24:21PM HURRICANE, IT'S DISRESPECTFUL TO CITY COUNCIL.
12:24:24PM AS SAID EARLIER, HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE.
12:24:28PM IT'S WORTH GIVING THEM A CHANCE TO SAY WHATEVER THEY ARE

12:24:33PM GOING TO SAY.
12:24:33PM WE MAY APPROVE IT ANYWAY.
12:24:35PM LET THEM HAVE A CHANCE TO ANSWER.
12:24:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:24:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE,
12:24:41PM COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:24:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE THAT WE JUST ACCEPT ALL OF THE
12:24:44PM COMMITTEE REPORTS AND THEN ALLOW STAFF TO ADDRESS THE FACT
12:24:47PM THAT WE CANCELED TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS WHICH IS WHY THIS
12:24:50PM WAS NOT APPROVED.
12:24:52PM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TOO MUCH ABOUT THIS FOR
12:24:55PM A ROCK THE VOTE CAMPAIGN FOR A VOTE THAT TOOK PLACE TWO DAYS
12:24:59PM AGO.
12:25:03PM THE ALZHEIMER'S WALK.
12:25:05PM IT'S COMMON SENSE IN A SENSE.
12:25:06PM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
12:25:07PM IT WAS A WALK FOR ALZHEIMER'S AND THE ROCK THE VOTE ON
12:25:13PM HARRIS STREET.
12:25:13PM AND THEN TAMPA -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
12:25:16PM TWO ARE ALREADY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
12:25:18PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD GO THROUGH A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES
12:25:20PM FOR SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW THAT WE WOULD APPROVE ANYWAY.
12:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:25:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T SEE IT AS STAFF BEING RESPECTFUL.
12:25:29PM WE HAD TWO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS CANCELED BECAUSE OF

12:25:32PM HURRICANE HELENE AND HURRICANE MILTON.
12:25:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION STILL STANDS --
12:25:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE ALL OF THESE.
12:25:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I CONCUR WITH WHAT
12:25:44PM YOU'RE SAYING AS FAR AS COMMON SENSE BUT I ALSO THINK IT IS
12:25:48PM KIND OF WEIRD FOR US TAKING LEGISLATIVE ACTION ON FOUR ITEMS
12:25:51PM THAT ALREADY OCCURRED.
12:25:53PM I WOULD ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT AND SAY LET'S JUST HOLD
12:25:56PM KNOWING WE'LL HAVE EXPLANATION, HOLD 19 THROUGH 22 TO MAKE
12:26:01PM IT A CLEAN OPERATION.
12:26:02PM WE CAN ASK STAFF.
12:26:03PM I'M SURE THIS WILL BE NO DRAMA.
12:26:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S DRAMA NOW.
12:26:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
12:26:09PM MOVE IT AND BE DONE.
12:26:11PM MOVE EVERYTHING BUT 19 THROUGH 22.
12:26:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THE MOTION BEFORE YOU -- WHO IS
12:26:18PM THE SECOND?
12:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER
12:26:21PM HENDERSON TO MOVE ALL ITEMS.
12:26:22PM COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
12:26:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT ANYONE.
12:26:27PM I MEAN, LOOK I'M FINE WITH HOLDING IT SO LONG AS WE DON'T
12:26:32PM TAKE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES ON THIS THING.
12:26:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 100%.

12:26:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FINE WITH HOLDING.
12:26:39PM LET'S NOT STRETCH A SINGLE INTO A HOME RUN.
12:26:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOME RUN TO A SINGLE.
12:26:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO AMEND STRIKING 19 THROUGH 22 TO
12:26:53PM HOLD FOR STAFF COMMENTARY --
12:26:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE --
12:26:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A SUBSTITUTE.
12:26:58PM MOTION TO AMEND.
12:26:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMENDMENT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
12:27:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:03PM AYE.
12:27:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
12:27:05PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:27:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW THAT MOTION.
12:27:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK I INCORPORATED IT ALL IN THE
12:27:14PM AMENDMENT.
12:27:14PM AMENDED BY APPROVING EVERYTHING BUT 19 THROUGH 22 AND
12:27:21PM HOLDING FOUR ITEMS FOR STAFF.
12:27:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE AMENDED MOTION IS NOW ON THE FLOOR.
12:27:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE THE AMENDED MOTION.
12:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
12:27:30PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:27:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:27:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:27:34PM AYE ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:37PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:27:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:27:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEMS 29 AND 30 AND 32 THROUGH 37.
12:27:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:27:50PM HURTAK.
12:27:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:27:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:52PM AYE.
12:27:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:54PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:27:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FINANCE COMMITTEE 38 THROUGH 41.
12:27:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:28:01PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:04PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:28:05PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE --
12:28:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 42 THROUGH 46.
12:28:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:28:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:14PM AYE.
12:28:15PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 47 THROUGH 54.
12:28:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND

12:28:21PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:28:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:23PM AYE.
12:28:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:28:24PM 55 AND 56 NEED TO BE SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING, FEBRUARY 6,
12:28:31PM 2025, AT 1:30 AND NOVEMBER 21, 2024, AT 5:01 P.M.
12:28:36PM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
12:28:40PM 33602.
12:28:41PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:42PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:28:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE?
12:28:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:28:46PM WE ARE NOW IN RECESS UNTIL 2.
12:28:50PM 2 P.M. TODAY.
12:28:52PM [LUNCH RECESS]

02:08:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
02:08:05PM COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
02:08:06PM ROLL CALL.
02:08:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
02:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
02:08:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
02:08:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
02:08:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
02:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
02:08:15PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:08:17PM MAY I GET A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, ALL OF THEM.
02:08:20PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:08:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:08:23PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:08:25PM OPPOSED?
02:08:27PM ALL RIGHT, WAS HE MENTIONED EARLIER WE WILL GO TO ITEM 36
02:08:31PM AND 64.
02:08:33PM WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE AIR FORCE BASE -- YES, MA'AM, START
02:08:37PM WITH ITEM NUMBER 63.
02:08:38PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:08:40PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD AFTERNOON, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
02:08:44PM DEPARTMENT.
02:08:44PM THIS IS THE SECOND READING -- SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE
02:08:47PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE PINEWOOD DEVELOPMENT.
02:08:49PM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVISED BASED ON
02:08:54PM DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND MacDILL AIR FORCE
02:08:58PM BASE.
02:08:58PM THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE DEVELOPER, AND MISS FEELEY
02:09:02PM WILL GO INTO THIS IN MORE DETAIL.
02:09:04PM BUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REVISED TO SUBSTITUTE
02:09:08PM THE SITE PLAN FOR WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
02:09:10PM THIS TAKES THE -- SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN THE PARKING AREA AND
02:09:14PM SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN WHAT IS NOW THE GREENWAY AND TRAIL
02:09:17PM HEAD.
02:09:17PM IT TAKES THAT OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE.
02:09:20PM SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE REVISED A SITE PLAN.
02:09:24PM AND WE HAVE ALSO PROVIDED THAT -- THAT BECAUSE -- BECAUSE
02:09:31PM THESE REVISIONS, WE NOW NEED TO RESURVEY WHAT WOULD BE THE
02:09:35PM GREENWAY PARCEL AND THE PARK PARCEL.
02:09:39PM DOES NOT AFFECT THE OVERALL BOUNDARY OF THE CITY PARCEL BUT
02:09:43PM AFFECTS THAT DIVISION NOW.
02:09:44PM SO WE PROVIDED THAT THE DEVELOP WILL OBTAIN SURVEYS AND
02:09:49PM LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS THOSE TWO PARCELS AND WE WILL SUBSTITUTE
02:09:53PM THAT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:09:54PM AND THE DEVELOPER AND MISS FEELEY ARE HERE.
02:09:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM
02:10:02PM ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
02:10:05PM WHEN THIS MATTER LEFT OFF, THE DIRECTION WAS FOR THE
02:10:09PM DEVELOPER TO MEET WITH MacDILL TO TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF
02:10:13PM THE MATTERS THAT WERE RAISED IN RELATION TO THE CLEAR ZONE
02:10:16PM AND MacDILL'S DESIRE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
02:10:21PM THAT MEETING JUST HAPPENED THIS WEEK.
02:10:22PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT MEETING AFTER THEY AGREED
02:10:26PM TO THE CHANGES OUT IN THE FIELD YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
02:10:29PM SOME WHAT WENT INTO SIRE WENT IN YESTERDAY.
02:10:33PM AND I AM JUST HERE TO SAY IF THERE IS AN ISSUES WITH THAT OR
02:10:37PM ANYBODY DOESN'T FEEL THERE IS ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW IT, IT
02:10:40PM WOULD BE AT THE PRESSURE OF COUNCIL TO THAN AGAIN, BUT I AM
02:10:44PM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TRUE C YET AND LET HIM GO OVER WHAT
02:10:50PM THE CHANGES WERE AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND PLEASURE OF
02:10:56PM COUNCIL AFTER THAT PRESENTATION.
02:10:57PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, TRUETT GARDNER, PLEASED TO BE WITH MY
02:11:04PM CLIENT, BRIAN FUNK AND THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THE BASE.
02:11:06PM AS ABBYE ALLUDED TO, WE MET WITH THEM OCTOBER 28 ON BASE, AND
02:11:13PM PLEASED TO INTRODUCE A COMPROMISE -- NOT TO PUT WORDS THIS
02:11:17PM THEIR MOUTH THAT WE ARE HAPPY WITH, THAT THEY ARE HAPPY
02:11:20PM WITH.
02:11:20PM IF WE GO TO THE ELMO AND RUN THROUGH IN THE FROM OF TIME.
02:11:24PM WHAT WE DISCOVERED THROUGH OUR COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM THAT
02:11:29PM WERE SPIRITED AND POSITIVE, WHAT THE BIG ISSUES WERE AND
02:11:32PM WHAT THE RESOLUTIONS ARE FOR EACH ONE.
02:11:34PM FIRST, THEY WANTED THE DESIGN TO BE MORE OF A GREENWAY,
02:11:39PM TRAIL HEAD AND LESS OF A PARK.
02:11:41PM THE PADS HAVE BEEN CHANGED WHERE THEY ARE RUNNING DIRECTLY
02:11:44PM FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
02:11:47PM NORTHEAST CORNER TO SOUTHWEST CORNER.
02:11:49PM SOME THAT WAS THE CHANGE THERE.
02:11:51PM SECONDLY, FULL RECALL, THERE WAS A LARGE CONTIGUOUS SPACE.
02:11:56PM THEY WANTED TO MINIMIZE THE ABILITY FOR LARGE GATHERING.
02:12:00PM SO BY REDOING THE TRAIL THIS WAY, THAT BIFURCATES THAT
02:12:04PM SPACE.
02:12:04PM SO THAT WAS A BIG CHANGE TOO.
02:12:06PM CHANGE THREE.
02:12:10PM THEY WANTED THE ACCESS ON MARCUM WHICH ALIGNED -- IF YOU
02:12:15PM LOOK ON THE PURPLE SIDE, PREVIOUSLY ALIGNED STRAIGHT WITH
02:12:18PM THE INGRESS, EGRESS POINT ON PINEWOOD DOWN IN MARCUM.
02:12:23PM THEY WANTED THAT AS FAR WEST AS POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE THEIR
02:12:26PM EFFECT ON THE CLEAR SCENE WHERE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS SLID
02:12:29PM OVER.
02:12:29PM NOT THE OPTIMAL TRAFFIC FLOW FOR MY CLIENT, BUT IT IS
02:12:33PM SOMETHING THAT HE CAN LIVE WITH AND WANTED TO COMPROMISE
02:12:37PM FOR.
02:12:37PM THIRD, THEY WANTED A REDUCTION IN PARKING AND AS MUCH
02:12:41PM PARKING REMOVED OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE IF POSSIBLE.
02:12:44PM THAT IS THE REDESIGN NOW.
02:12:46PM IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE, IT WAS JUST A STRAIGHT NORTH-SOUTH
02:12:49PM LINE WHERE GREEN BECOMES PURPLE.
02:12:55PM AND THE BOOT, ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE AND LESS PARKING.
02:13:00PM FROM THE CITY ELSE STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING YOU SEE -- I WILL
02:13:03PM CALL THAT ORANGE -- ARE CITY SPACES.
02:13:06PM SO THEY LOST -- THE CITY LOST A COUPLE OF SPACES WHICH THEY
02:13:09PM CAN LIVE WITH.
02:13:10PM MR. FUNK LOST THE MOST AMOUNT OF SPACES, BUT HE IS FINE WITH
02:13:14PM THAT AS WELL.
02:13:14PM SO THOSE WERE THE BIG COMPROMISES.
02:13:16PM THE OPEN ITEMS THAT I WILL JUST SAY WILL BE TABLED FOR
02:13:21PM ANOTHER TIME AND WE TALKED TO THE BASE ABOUT THIS AND THEY
02:13:24PM CAN OPINE ON THIS AS WELL ARE BENCHES.
02:13:26PM IDEALLY HAVING THOSE OUT OF THE CLEAR ZONE.
02:13:30PM WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME SORT OF SEATING IF SOMEBODY
02:13:33PM GETS A PEBBLE IN THEIR SHOE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
02:13:36PM AND ALSO SOME SORT OF LIGHTING.
02:13:38PM THEY HAD CONCERN OF LIGHTING AND PLANES, BUT THE CITY AND
02:13:41PM MR. FUNK ALSO WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT IS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT
02:13:44PM FOR PEOPLE USING THE GREENWAY AND TRAILHEAD.
02:13:48PM SOME WE AGREED TO FIND SOME SORT OF SOLUTION THAT WE FEEL
02:13:52PM CONFIDENT WE WILL IN THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS
02:13:56PM SET UP NOT THE FINAL DESIGN AND SO THERE IS TIME FOR THAT.
02:13:59PM PLEASED TO BRING THAT IN FRONT OF YOU.
02:14:01PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
02:14:03PM AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE BASE HERE AS WELL.
02:14:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:14:08PM A REPRESENTATIVE HERE FROM THE AIR FORCE BASE.
02:14:10PM SIR, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP.
02:14:12PM STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:13PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, TONY RODRIGUEZ THE PORTFOLIO OPTIMIZATION
02:14:16PM MANAGER WITH THE SQUADRON AT MacDILL AIR FORCE
02:14:21PM BASE.
02:14:21PM WE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
02:14:24PM THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE AND THEY ADJUSTED
02:14:27PM THEIR SITE PLAN ACCORDINGLY AND WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS WITH
02:14:30PM THIS CURRENT SITE PLAN.
02:14:35PM >> THANK YOU.
02:14:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
02:14:38PM THIS ITEM?
02:14:46PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:14:47PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
02:14:50PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN THESE PLANS.
02:14:52PM NICE TO THEY SHARED IT.
02:14:54PM EVERYBODY HERE HAT MY E-MAIL.
02:14:57PM I AM GOOD WITH THE REDUCTION IN PARKING.
02:14:59PM I THINK IT IS RUDE TO LEAVE THE NEIGHBORS OUT, BUT OTHER
02:15:02PM THAN THAT, I DO APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE MADE AN AMENDMENT TO
02:15:05PM THE PROCESS.
02:15:05PM AND IT IS COMING FORWARD THAT EVERYBODY WILL GET
02:15:08PM NOTIFICATION FOR THESE KIND OF DEALS GOING FORWARD AND IT IS
02:15:14PM VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU APPRECIATE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
02:15:16PM MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND MAKING SURE THAT NEIGHBORHOODS
02:15:19PM WILL BE NOTIFIED FROM NOW ON I AM GOOD WITH THE REDUCTION OF
02:15:24PM PARKING.
02:15:24PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE NORTH AND SOUTH PARKING GONE BECAUSE
02:15:27PM IT WAS -- WE DIDN'T LIKE IT TO START WITH.
02:15:29PM AND WE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE MORE TREES.
02:15:31PM THANK YOU.
02:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:15:37PM [INAUDIBLE]
02:15:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- FOR WHAT HE HAS DONE TO MAKE SURE BOTH
02:15:41PM SIDES ARE NOT HAPPY AND KIND OF MAKES THEM HAPPY AND DOWN
02:15:44PM THE MIDDLE WHEN YOU MAKE BOTH SIDES UNHAPPY, GUESS WHAT,
02:15:48PM THINGS GET DONE.
02:15:48PM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
02:15:50PM AND I KNOW IT WILL BE A NICE PROBABLY FOR THE CITY AROUND
02:15:53PM CERTAINLY FOR THE DEVELOPER AND MacDILL AIR FORCE BASE.
02:15:56PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:15:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY REBUTTAL?
02:16:00PM >> TRUETT GARDNER.
02:16:04PM MISS POYNOR, WE DID NOT LEAVE HER OUT.
02:16:08PM THAT MEETING GETS SENT TO CIVIL ENGINEERS, LANDSCAPE
02:16:12PM ARCHITECTS.
02:16:13PM SO NOT AN INTENTION TO LEAVE HER OUT.
02:16:15PM THINGS WERE JUST HAPPENING THAT QUICKLY.
02:16:18PM I THINK WE GOT THE FINAL VERSION YESTERDAY AT THIS POINT.
02:16:21PM AND THEN THAT WAS -- YOU KNOW, SUBMITTED TO THE SMILE AND
02:16:24PM EVERYTHING ELSE.
02:16:24PM I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
02:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:16:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN LIGHT OF OF HURRICANES, I THINK YOU
02:16:32PM DID GOOD AND I AM GLAD YOU ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
02:16:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTION CLOSE.
02:16:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:16:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD LIKE TO MOVE.
02:16:44PM THE SUBSTITUTE.
02:16:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
02:16:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:16:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:16:54PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:16:55PM OPPOSED?
02:16:56PM ITEM NUMBER 64.
02:16:58PM NOTHING TO ADD, CORRECT?
02:17:02PM A MOTION TO 64, SECOND FROM -- DON'T NEED TO CLOSE -- A
02:17:08PM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 64.
02:17:10PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:17:11PM SECONDED -- SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
02:17:14PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION.
02:17:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:17:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:17:18PM OPPOSED?
02:17:19PM ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:17:21PM LET'S SEE.
02:17:27PM WHERE ARE WE AT NOW.
02:17:28PM WE MOVED TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:17:32PM THESE ARE NONQUASI-JUDICIAL FOR THE FIRST VIEW.
02:17:35PM ITEM 57, WE HAVE A SECOND READING HERE.
02:17:40PM MR.MASSEY.
02:17:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, SIR, MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:17:46PM SECOND READING FOR ORDINANCES PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL
02:17:48PM OFFICIALLY RENAMING THE BRICKYARD PLAZA BETWEEN THIS
02:17:52PM BUILDING AND -- AND THE MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AFTER
02:17:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:17:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHARLIE MIRANDA HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
02:18:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE TO ABSTAIN.
02:18:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON
02:18:08PM ITEM 57.
02:18:09PM A MOTION FROM CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:18:11PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:18:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:18:13PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:18:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: DO IT.
02:18:21PM DO IT.
02:18:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:18:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S SEE HERE.
02:18:29PM I HEARBY MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENT BY SECOND READING AND
02:18:33PM ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, THE
02:18:38PM NAMING OF THE BRICK PLAZA AND COURTYARD BETWEEN OLD CITY
02:18:41PM HALL AND TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING AS CHARLIE MIRANDA
02:18:45PM PLAZA IN HONOR OF COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA IN HIS ALMOST
02:18:49PM 30 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND CITIZENS AS
02:18:52PM MEMBERS OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY LEADER PROVIDING
02:18:55PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:18:56PM OH, DEAR LORD.
02:19:04PM I SHOULD KNOW WHAT THAT IS AS OF OCTOBER 23, 2024.
02:19:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOTION.
02:19:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:19:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ABSTAINED ALREADY.
02:19:14PM I VOTE NO.
02:19:15PM [LAUGHTER]
02:19:22PM STILL PASSES.
02:19:22PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
02:19:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:19:27PM ITEM NUMBER 58.
02:19:29PM YES, MA'AM.
02:19:29PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:19:31PM >>MARCY HAMILTON: MARCY HAMILTON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:19:33PM ON ITEM 58, A SECOND READING TO ENACT A PURCHASING ORDINANCE
02:19:41PM EXCEPTION 2-286 FOR ANY CONTRACT FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OR
02:19:46PM ANY OTHER PURCHASES OVER $5 MILLION.
02:19:49PM THIS WAS A MOTION THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT BY CITY
02:19:52PM COUNCIL.
02:19:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:19:55PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
02:19:57PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
02:19:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:20:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:20:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:20:04PM ANY OPPOSED?
02:20:05PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MIND READING 58.
02:20:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR -- LET ME PASS TO MR. CARLSON,
02:20:11PM HIS ORIGINAL MOTION.
02:20:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:20:14PM 58.
02:20:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE NUMBER E-2024-8-CH 2.
02:20:25PM ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
02:20:28PM AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION
02:20:33PM 3, PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY ENACTING SECTION 22-286, THREE
02:20:38PM BID REQUIREMENT FOR THE -- FOR PURCHASE -- SORRY FOR
02:20:42PM CONTRACTS FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR OTHER PURCHASES
02:20:45PM EXCEEDING $5 MILLION PROCEED WILLING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
02:20:48PM ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT THEREWITH.
02:20:52PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:20:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
02:20:58PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:21:01PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:21:05PM ITEM NUMBER 59.
02:21:08PM >>MARCY HAMILTON: MARCY HAMILTON, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:21:12PM THIS WAS ANOTHER MOTION PRESENTED BY COUNCIL.
02:21:14PM THIS IS PURCHASING ORDINANCE TO ENACT 287 OF COOPERATIVE
02:21:22PM PURCHASES BETTER KNOWN AS PIGGYBACKS THAT YOU REQUESTED WE
02:21:25PM PROVIDE BACKGROUND INFORMATION REGARDING WHY WE WANT TO USE
02:21:29PM THE PIGGYBACK.
02:21:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:21:35PM NO?
02:21:36PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 59.
02:21:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE.
02:21:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:21:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON.
02:21:45PM WOULD YOU MIND READING 59?
02:21:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2024-8 CHAPTER 22,
02:21:59PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
02:22:01PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ARTICLE V, DIVISION 3,
02:22:06PM PURCHASES AND CONTRACTS BY ENACTING SECTION 2-287 WITH USE
02:22:12PM OF OTHER COOPERATIVE CONTRACTS AND PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
02:22:17PM ORDINANCES AND ALL ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND
02:22:21PM PROVIDE WILLING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:22:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:22:25PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:22:26PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:22:32PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:22:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 60.
02:22:36PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:22:38PM >>McLANE EVANS: McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:22:45PM THE FIRST OF TWO SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING OF BROWNFIELD
02:22:49PM LOCATED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 230 EAST HILLSBOROUGH
02:22:55PM AVENUE.
02:22:56PM THE AREA PROPOSED OF BROWNFIELD IS LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA AND
02:23:00PM APPROXIMATELY 13.24 ACRES IN SIZE.
02:23:02PM THE PROPERTY OWNER RICHMOND HILLS LIMITED HAS REQUESTED THIS
02:23:08PM DESIGNATION AND PLANS TO REDEVELOP INTO 356 AFFORDABLE
02:23:12PM HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE TO HOUSEHOLDS EARNING 120% OR LESS
02:23:16PM OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
02:23:18PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS A FINANCIAL PARTNER IN THIS PROJECT
02:23:21PM CONTRIBUTING $12 MILLION IN FURTHERANCE OF THIS EFFORT TO
02:23:25PM MAKE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE.
02:23:27PM DETAILS OF THIS DESIGNATION ARE IN ANSWER TITLED STAFF
02:23:34PM REPORT OF BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW
02:23:38PM BOTH IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ONLINE THROUGH ON-BASE.
02:23:40PM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH
02:23:45PM SCHEDULED NOVEMBER 21, 2024 AT 5:01 OR SOON HAD THEREAFTER.
02:23:51PM COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO PASS THE RESOLUTION OF IT
02:23:56PM FOR USE IN THE BROWNFIELD AREA.
02:23:58PM THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE REMOTELY IF YOU HAVE ANY
02:24:01PM QUESTIONS.
02:24:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:24:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE FUN LAND PROPERTY?
02:24:06PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:24:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE DRIVE BY THERE ALL THE TIME.
02:24:11PM THAT SUCKER IS GOING.
02:24:13PM MY QUESTION IS WHY ARE WE DOING IT NOW BEFORE THE
02:24:15PM CONSTRUCTION BEGAN?
02:24:20PM >> IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE?
02:24:24PM THE STATUTE DOES ALLOW FOR -- AS LONG AS THEY ARE DESIGNATED
02:24:28PM BY THE END OF THE YEAR, THEY CAN APPLY FOR EVERYTHING.
02:24:31PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT McLANE JUST SAID.
02:24:35PM MY UNDERSTANDING -- WHO IS ON LINE, KENNY -- BRETT?
02:24:40PM >> BRETT.
02:24:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WHAT THEY DO IS ONCE THEY GET THEIR
02:24:44PM DESIGNATION, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A CREDIT THROUGH OTHER
02:24:49PM FINANCING AND WHY THEY ARE DOING IT NOW.
02:24:50PM THEY HAVE DONE THE WORK IT REMEDIATE THE SITE.
02:24:54PM WHEN I SAW -- THE REPORT COME ACROSS TOO, THAT IS WHEN I
02:24:57PM REACHED OUT TO McLANE AND I SAID REMEMBER WE ARE INVESTING
02:25:01PM -- THIS IS THE FUN LAND PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT THAT
02:25:04PM THE IN THE REPORT TOO.
02:25:05PM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE NORMALLY YOU WOULDN'T SEE ME ON A
02:25:08PM BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION.
02:25:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT.
02:25:14PM THEY KNOW THE FUN LAND SITE.
02:25:16PM I DON'T WANT ANYBODY --
02:25:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE IMPRESSION.
02:25:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVEN THE SLIGHTEST IMPRESSION WE ARE DOING
02:25:22PM ANYTHING THAT WOULD IMPACT FOLKS TO ARE GOING TO LIVE IN
02:25:25PM THIS PROPERTY.
02:25:25PM THANK YOU.
02:25:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:25:29PM ANYBODY -- DO YOU NEED TO ADD ANYTHING, BRETT?
02:25:35PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:25:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
02:25:40PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON I'M FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW FIRM 2100
02:25:46PM IN CORAL GABLES.
02:25:47PM AND REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
02:25:50PM I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:25:53PM CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST AND FOR THE CITY'S SUPPORT OF
02:25:55PM THIS PROJECT.
02:25:56PM AND AS MENTIONED THIS DESIGNATION WILL HELP THE APPLICANT
02:26:01PM RECOUP COSTS WITH EXCAVATING AND COMPOSING CONTAMINATED SOIL
02:26:08PM FROM HISTORICAL USERS OF THE SITE.
02:26:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:26:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A BROWNFIELD
02:26:15PM IS.
02:26:15PM SOMEBODY WHO HEARS DOUSE THIS THEY MAY THINK YOU NOW TURN IT
02:26:21PM INTO A BROWNFIELD.
02:26:21PM YOU SAID THIS BEFORE AND CAN YOU STATE AGAIN -- I WILL PUT
02:26:26PM WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
02:26:27PM THE PURPOSE FOR GETTING REBATES OR GRANTS RELATED TO
02:26:30PM CLEANING UP.
02:26:31PM AND THEY ALREADY CLEANED IT UP.
02:26:33PM >> CORRECT, McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:26:37PM A STATUE REFERENCED TO AS THE BROWNFIELD ACT.
02:26:42PM PARTIES -- THE NONCONTAMINATING PARTY.
02:26:46PM IF YOU CONTAMINATED IT, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
02:26:50PM IF YOU COME UNTIL AND WANT TO DEVELOP A SITE AND PREVIOUS
02:26:53PM CONTAMINATION AND YOU PAID TO CLEAN IT UP, YOU CAN APPLY FOR
02:26:56PM A BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION WHICH IS THE VERY FIRST STEP IN
02:27:00PM ENTERING INTO THE BROWNFIELD PROGRAM.
02:27:02PM ONLY PART OF THE MUNICIPALITY -- AND THE CITY OF TAMPA,
02:27:07PM SIMPLY THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS OF SAYING, YES, THEY MEET
02:27:10PM THE CRITERIA TO BE CATEGORIZED AS A BROWNFIELD, SO,
02:27:14PM THEREFORE, WE BRING FORTH THE APPLICATION FOR COUNCIL'S
02:27:18PM CONSIDERATION WHETHER OR NOT TO DESIGNATE IT.
02:27:20PM AFTER THAT, THE APPLICANT AND DEVELOPER GO BACK TO THE STATE
02:27:23PM TO MOVE FORWARD ON WHAT THE PLAN IS AND WHAT THEY WILL DO
02:27:26PM AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
02:27:27PM IN THIS CASE, THE DEVELOPER LIKELY DID THAT AHEAD OF TIME
02:27:30PM BEFORE THE DESIGNATION WHICH IS ALLOWED.
02:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:27:35PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 60?
02:27:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:27:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:27:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:27:47PM AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM NOVEMBER 21, 2024
02:27:53PM AT 5:01 P.M.
02:27:54PM 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
02:28:00PM UNITED STATES.
02:28:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:28:03PM HENDERSON NORTH AMERICA.
02:28:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR IT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION AFTER
02:28:14PM PUBLIC HEARING AND BREAK, WE HAD A NOTICE ISSUE ON ITEM 61
02:28:19PM AND 62.
02:28:19PM I GOT TWO MOTIONS TO CURE THOSE.
02:28:22PM I MOVE TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING -- THIS IS FOR ITEM 16.
02:28:25PM I MOVE TO HAVE SET A PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT
02:28:30PM 10:30 A.M. OR SOON THEREAFTER IN CITY COUNCIL'S CHAMBER 315
02:28:37PM E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062 BROWNFIELD
02:28:43PM PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 376 FLORIDA STATUTE FOR PROPERTY
02:28:48PM GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE EAST YBOR AREA WITH 0.51 ACRES IN
02:28:54PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:28:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:28:58PM MR. SHELBY, I KNOW THERE IS A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE.
02:29:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO NOTE.
02:29:03PM IS THIS ISSUE RESOLVED THEN?
02:29:05PM I WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS MOTION.
02:29:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY.
02:29:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW THE BACKGROUND OF IT.
02:29:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL BRIEF YOU.
02:29:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THE GENTLEMAN WANT TO COME UP AND
02:29:16PM SPEAK?
02:29:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
02:29:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
02:29:22PM WE NEED TO GET YOU AT THE FRONT WITH THE MICROPHONE.
02:29:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN.
02:29:29PM I WILL FIND OUT WHAT'S WHAT.
02:29:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS RESCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
02:29:34PM >> MATTHEW RADDACK -- JUST INFORMED AND THAT THE REAL
02:29:39PM MEETING WOULD BE DECEMBER 5, SO I CAN MAKE MY COMMENTS THEN
02:29:43PM IF I HAVE ANY MORE, CORRECT?
02:29:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
02:29:45PM I WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS A MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO SET THE
02:29:49PM PUBLIC HEARING BUT STILL REQUIRES IT TO BE NOTICED AGAIN, IS
02:29:52PM THAT CORRECT?
02:29:52PM THIS IS NOT A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
02:29:54PM SO THIS GENTLEMAN BEING WITHIN 00 FEET SHOULD BE RECEIVING
02:29:58PM -- NO?
02:30:00PM MAYBE I NEED -- SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED THAT THE
02:30:02PM PUBLIC MIGHT WANT TO KNOW.
02:30:04PM >>McLANE EVANS: McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
02:30:07PM SO THERE WAS CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:30:10PM HE BELIEVE HE MUST HAVE BEEN REFERENCING CITY AND WILL USE
02:30:14PM NOTICING REQUIREMENTS.
02:30:15PM THE BROWNFIELD ACTS STATUTORY PROCESS THROUGH CHAPTER 166 OF
02:30:21PM FLORIDA STATUTES.
02:30:22PM NO INDIVIDUAL MAILER AS PART OF THAT NOTICE.
02:30:25PM THE REASON 62 AND 63 WERE MISNOTICED PUBLISHED ON NOVEMBER 1
02:30:32PM AND IT NEEDS TO BE PUBLISHED AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE
02:30:35PM FIRST MEETING AND THE INTENT WAS TODAY TO BE THE FIRST
02:30:38PM MEETING AND WE ONLY NOTICE IT SIX DAYS IN ADVANCE.
02:30:42PM AT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD LIKE THE ALREADY
02:30:46PM ANNOUNCED AND NOTICE EVENING NOVEMBER 1 AT 5:01 P.M. OR SOON
02:30:53PM THEREFORE TO BE THE FIRST MEETING NOW.
02:30:57PM AND THE SECOND MEETING WILL BE THE DAYTIME MEETING THAT
02:31:01PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN JUST MADE THE MOTION FOR IF COUNCIL
02:31:08PM AGREES DECEMBER 5 AT 10:30 A.M.
02:31:12PM TODAY IS NOT A HEARING.
02:31:14PM >> THIS IS JUST SETTING IT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:31:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM CONFUSED FIRST MEETING IS NOT THE 5th
02:31:26PM BUT 1st?
02:31:28PM >> CORRECT, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED AND NOTICED TODAY
02:31:32PM AND NOVEMBER 21.
02:31:33PM THE STATUTE REQUIRES HEARINGS, ONE NIGHTTIME, ONE DAYTIME.
02:31:41PM WE WILL KEEP THE 21st.
02:31:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST SO THE PUBLIC -- THE GENTLEMAN KNOWS.
02:31:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN ONE LAST THING.
02:31:47PM DOES THE -- DOES THE DECEMBER 5 DATE NEED TO BE RETEASED OR
02:31:52PM NO?
02:31:53PM >> THE DECEMBER 5th DATE WILL NEED TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE
02:31:57PM PAPER BUT NO MAILERS WILL BE AGAIN BECAUSE NOT PART OF THE
02:32:00PM BROWNFIELD'S NOTIFICATION PROCESS.
02:32:04PM IT IS THE SIGNAGE ON THE PROPERTY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE
02:32:09PM BECAUSE ALREADY OWNED PROPERTY ON-SITE OR CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.
02:32:13PM IN AUGUST, THERE WAS A PUBLIC MEETING.
02:32:15PM SO -- BUT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, THERE NEEDS TO BE TWO
02:32:19PM HEARINGS, THE 1 SOCIAL SECURITY OF NOVEMBER WILL BE THE
02:32:21PM FIRST AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES DECEMBER 5th WILL BE THE
02:32:27PM SECOND.
02:32:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T REMEMBER YOUR NAME.
02:32:31PM ARE YOU COMFORT WHAT THE BROWNFIELD DESIGNATION IS AND STAFF
02:32:35PM IS ABLE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT WITH YOU?
02:32:38PM >> YES, SIR.
02:32:38PM THAT WILL GIVE ME A LITTLE BELT MORE TIME TO LEARN ABOUT IT.
02:32:43PM I APPRECIATE IT.
02:32:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:32:46PM OPPOSED.
02:32:46PM ITEM 26, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:32:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM 26, SAME ISSUE.
02:32:51PM TO CURE ITEM 26, MOVE A PUBLIC HEARING DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT
02:32:56PM 10:30 OR SOON THEREAFTER AT CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
02:33:00PM THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062 FOR PROPOSED DESIGNATION
02:33:08PM FOR REHAB TAILINGS FLORIDA STATUTE FOR PROPERTY GENERALLY
02:33:12PM LOCATED 813 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE 0.49 ACRES IN THE CITY OF
02:33:19PM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
02:33:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:33:21PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS THE MOTION.
02:33:23PM SECOND BE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:33:25PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:33:26PM OPPOSED?
02:33:27PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:33:27PM WE HAVE THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:33:30PM WE MOVED TO OPEN THEM AND REQUEST TO WITHDRAW 55 AND 56.
02:33:34PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
02:33:35PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:33:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:33:39PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:33:40PM OPPOSED?
02:33:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 56 AND 66?
02:33:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:33:44PM ITEM NUMBER 67.
02:33:46PM A FIRST READING, YES, MA'AM.
02:33:48PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
02:33:51PM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
02:33:53PM ITEM NUMBER 67 IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
02:33:57PM READING TO REPEAL CODE SECTION 18-8, WHICH IS REGARDING THE
02:34:02PM CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
02:34:03PM ON JUNE 6, 2024, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT GAVE A PRESENTATION ON
02:34:08PM HOUSE BILL 601 THAT IMPACTS THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
02:34:13PM AFTER THE PRESENTATION, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A MOTION FOR
02:34:16PM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE AN ORDER REPEALING CODE
02:34:21PM SECTION 18-8 THAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
02:34:24PM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED PUBLIC COMMENT
02:34:28PM BE FROM MR. ALBERT COOK, WHO IS THE CHAIR OF THE NEWLY
02:34:31PM ENACTED CHIEFS ADVISORY COUNCIL FROM CHIEF BERCAW.
02:34:39PM WE HAVE ALSO HERE WITH ME MIKE SCHMID, THE LEGAL ADVISOR FOR
02:34:45PM THAT COUNCIL IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
02:34:46PM BUT THE UPDATED INFORMATION WITH HOW THE CITY HAS REACTED AS
02:34:50PM -- IN REGARDS TO AND RESULT OF HOUSE BILL 061.
02:34:55PM I WOULD ASK THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON
02:34:58PM FIRST READING.
02:34:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:35:02PM MR. SCHMID, ANYTHING YOU NEED TO ADD?
02:35:07PM NO.
02:35:07PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 57?
02:35:11PM A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:35:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:35:16PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:35:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CLOSE IT.
02:35:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:35:24PM READ ITEM 67.
02:35:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL.
02:35:26PM I MOVE FILE NUMBER E 2024-8, CHAPTER EVERY 18 ORDINANCE OF
02:35:35PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, REPEALING THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE
02:35:40PM OF ORDINANCES SECTION 18-8, CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD FOR THE
02:35:43PM CITY FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT PROVIDING FOR
02:35:45PM SEVERABILITY.
02:35:46PM PROCEEDING FOR APPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
02:35:49PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:35:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND
02:35:55PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:35:56PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:35:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS CLEARLY STATED EVEN BY THE PERSON WHO
02:36:05PM SPONSORED THE BILL, NO BOARDS WOULD HAVE TO BE CLOSED.
02:36:07PM WE ARE NOT CLOSING BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, BUT BECAUSE WE WANT
02:36:11PM TO.
02:36:11PM THIS IS MY OPINION AND WHAT I READ FOUND OUT.
02:36:15PM I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO CLOSE IT.
02:36:18PM IF YOU CHOOSE TO, IT IS ON YOU.
02:36:20PM I AM VOTING NO.
02:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:36:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: INITIALLY I SUPPORTED IT AND I AM GOING TO
02:36:27PM VOTE AGAINST IT BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH THE LEGAL OPINIONS.
02:36:29PM I GOTTEN SEVERAL LEGAL OPINIONS AND IT APPEARS WE DO NOT
02:36:35PM NEED TO VOTE ON DO THIS.
02:36:37PM FOR THE PUBLIC THERE ARE MOST LIKELY WILL BE REPEALED AND
02:36:40PM WON'T BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
02:36:42PM I WAS AN ACTIVIST IN 2015 WHEN BIKING WHILE BLACK CAME OUT.
02:36:46PM AND WHAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME 22 CIVIL RIGHTS GROUP CAME
02:36:52PM TOGETHER AND PROTESTED THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION FOR
02:36:56PM ESSENTIALLY RACIST POLICIES INSIDE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:36:59PM THAT POLICY AND THE SUBSEQUENT ONE THAT THE TAMPA BAY TIMES
02:37:04PM RENTING WHILE BLACK RESULTED IN THE UNITED STATES JUSTICE
02:37:08PM DEPARTMENT CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION.
02:37:09PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE RENTING WHILE BLACK INVESTIGATION BY
02:37:12PM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS STILL GOING ON.
02:37:18PM THE CRB -- FOR ANY OF THE ACTIVISTS -- THE CRB WAS NOT MEANT
02:37:24PM TO POLICE THE POLICE, IT IS MEANT AS A REACTION TO CONTROL
02:37:29PM AN ADMINISTRATION THAT CREATED RACIST POLICIES.
02:37:31PM SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT
02:37:35PM WILL PREVENT FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS FROM DOING THAT.
02:37:38PM WE WILL NOT HAVE RACIST POLICIES IN THE CITY.
02:37:41PM A BEG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ENFORCING THE LAW.
02:37:43PM WE NEED TO STAND BEHIND OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
02:37:45PM AND WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS, BUT WE SHOULD NOT CREATE
02:37:50PM POLICIES THAT INTENTIONALLY DISCRIMINATE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF
02:37:54PM THEIR RACE.
02:37:54PM THANK YOU.
02:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:38:00PM YOUR MICROPHONE.
02:38:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR CLARITY OF MY OWN MIND.
02:38:12PM NO ONE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO DO THIS.
02:38:15PM IT WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOMEBODY IN TALLAHASSEE, THAT'S
02:38:19PM CORRECT?
02:38:20PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MADE THESE BOARDS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO THE
02:38:25PM STATE OF FLORIDA.
02:38:26PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE HELPFUL TO MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH
02:38:30PM THE COMMUNITY WITH THE NEW WAY OF DOING IT WITHOUT IT BEING
02:38:33PM A LAW.
02:38:34PM >> CORRECT.
02:38:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
02:38:36PM I WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD.
02:38:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:38:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN CONCEPT WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DID WITH
02:38:42PM THE COMPROMISE OF CREATING THIS REVIEW BOARD WAS THE RIGHT
02:38:46PM THING AT THAT TIME.
02:38:48PM IT IS A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
02:38:49PM NOT A CITY OF TAMPA ISSUE.
02:38:50PM IT IS A TALLAHASSEE ISSUE.
02:38:53PM WE NEED TO TEAL WITH.
02:38:54PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING THAT ON THE ADVICE OF OUR LEGAL
02:38:58PM COUNSEL.
02:38:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:39:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:39:02PM THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO.
02:39:03PM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE PASSED ON THE SECOND TRY A BILL OF
02:39:09PM RIGHTS WHICH IS THE ONLY CIVIL RIGHTS BILLS THAT WAS PASSED,
02:39:12PM VOTED DOWN BY COUNCIL.
02:39:13PM BROUGHT BACK AND WE SUPPORTED IT.
02:39:15PM THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN TO DO ENHANCE RIGHTS.
02:39:18PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS PASSED WHEN WE COULD DO THIS.
02:39:21PM AS I SAID BEFORE, IF I WAS IN TALLAHASSEE FOR A STATE
02:39:25PM REPRESENTATIVE.
02:39:26PM I WOULD HAVE VOTED NO.
02:39:27PM I THINK THIS IS AWFUL.
02:39:29PM LOCAL COMMUNITIES HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO CERTAIN THINGS
02:39:32PM WITHIN PARAMETERS AND I THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CRB WAS
02:39:36PM SOMETHING THAT WORKED FOR EVERYBODY, POLICE OFFICERS, THE
02:39:39PM COMMUNITY, ETC., BECAUSE YOU NEED FUNCTIONS THAT PROMOTE
02:39:43PM COMMUNITY POLICING THAT PROMOTE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
02:39:45PM THAT PROMOTE SOME LEVEL OF DIALOGUE AND ENGAGEMENT.
02:39:49PM I THINK THAT IS GOOD FOR COPS.
02:39:51PM THAT IS GOOD FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
02:39:53PM I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
02:39:55PM THERE WERE NUMEROUS PROPOSALS TOLL ADD ON TOP THIS
02:39:58PM COMMITTEE.
02:39:58PM SOME I VOTED FOR.
02:39:59PM LIKE THE ATTORNEY.
02:40:00PM SOME I VOTED AGAINST LIKE SUBPOENA POWER.
02:40:03PM I TRIED TO TAKE ONE THING AT A TIME.
02:40:05PM BUT SUPPORTING THE OVERALL THING.
02:40:07PM HAD THIS COME UP IN TALLAHASSEE, I THINK THAT ALL OF US
02:40:11PM WOULD VERY LIKELY VOTED AGAINST THAT BILL NOT JUST FOR WHAT
02:40:17PM TAMPA HAS, BUT WHAT WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE I THINK IN
02:40:20PM COMMUNITIES.
02:40:20PM THE WAY I SEE THIS, OUR HANDS ARE TIED, AS I INTERPRET IT
02:40:25PM AND SPEAKING WITH COUNSEL.
02:40:27PM JUST MY OPINION.
02:40:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:40:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:40:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:40:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
02:40:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:40:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:40:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:40:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:40:43PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTE
02:40:46PM NOTHING.
02:40:47PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION DECEMBER 5, 2024 AT 10 A.M.
02:40:51PM AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3062.
02:41:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THAT.
02:41:02PM ANYTHING THAT I PULLED THAT WITH AS GOING TO COME FIRST
02:41:05PM UNDER STAFF REPORT?
02:41:06PM WE TOOK CARE OF NUMBER 8 -- THAT'S RIGHT, 19-22, THE EVENT
02:41:13PM PERMITS.
02:41:13PM ANYBODY HERE FOR 19-22.
02:41:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THOUGHT MR. BRODY WAS GOING TO BE HERE.
02:41:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S GIVE HIM A MOMENT.
02:41:31PM HE MIGHT POP IN.
02:41:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE CAN GO BACK.
02:41:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING UNDER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE OR
02:41:38PM DID THE CHIEF OF STAFF COVER THAT ALREADY THIS MORNING?
02:41:41PM YOU ARE GOOD?
02:41:42PM ITEM NUMBER 69, $6.5 MILLION.
02:41:45PM MR. BAIRD SENT A MEMO WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
02:41:52PM ANYONE HERE FROM STAFF FOR ITEM 69.
02:41:54PM ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED FOR STAFF?
02:41:57PM CAN I GET A MOTION --
02:41:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO ACCEPT -- MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:42:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:42:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:42:07PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:42:08PM ITEM NUMBER 70 IS $6 MILLION.
02:42:11PM MR. BAIRD, I SAW HIM ON.
02:42:15PM DO WE NEED MR. BAIRD FOR ANYTHING?
02:42:18PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:42:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:42:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:42:22PM ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE ANOTHER CONTRACT, $14.3
02:42:26PM MILLION.
02:42:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION.
02:42:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:42:31PM SECONDED FROM VIERA.
02:42:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:42:33PM ALL RIGHT.
02:42:34PM MR. BHIDE WILL PRESENT ON 7 AND -- SORRY, BEFORE -- JUST
02:42:43PM REAL QUICK.
02:42:43PM WILL BRODY, 19-23.
02:42:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CARL BRODY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:42:52PM I JUST WANTED TO COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS THE SPECIAL EVENTS
02:42:56PM ORDINANCE.
02:42:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:42:59PM >> SPECIFICALLY WHAT OCCURRED ON THIS SITUATION IS THAT THE
02:43:06PM ITEMS 19, 20, 21 AND 22 WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY CITY
02:43:15PM COUNCIL BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE HURRICANES --
02:43:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE OUT OF BREATH.
02:43:20PM >> I AM OUT OF BREATH.
02:43:21PM I RAN UP HERE --
02:43:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TECHNOLOGY --
02:43:30PM >> YES, SO THOSE WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK AT A PREVIOUS
02:43:34PM MEETING.
02:43:35PM AND BECAUSE OF HURRICANES THE STATES HAD TO CHANGE THAT'S
02:43:42PM WHY THIS WITH AS BROUGHT BACK TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE DATE
02:43:46PM CHANGES.
02:43:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THESE DATES HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED?
02:43:49PM WHY DO WE HAVE TO ACT ON THEM?
02:43:51PM SO WHY DO WE HAVE TO ACTON?
02:43:53PM >> I THINK THAT IT WAS PROVIDED AS COURTESY, BECAUSE UNDER
02:44:02PM THE ORDINANCE, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE ANY SPECIAL
02:44:05PM EVENTS.
02:44:05PM SINCE IT WAS ALREADY APPROVED TECHNICALLY, HE DIDN'T HAVE TO
02:44:14PM BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
02:44:15PM BUT AS A MATTER JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT DATES HAVE
02:44:18PM CHANGED, HE BROUGHT IT BACK.
02:44:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL RIGHT.
02:44:21PM VERY GOOD.
02:44:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:44:23PM MR. MULKEY, ANYTHING TO ADD?
02:44:29PM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, TONY MULKEY, PARKS
02:44:33PM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
02:44:34PM I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE DETAIL THAT THE ONLY ONE OF THESE
02:44:37PM EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS THE
02:44:40PM ALZHEIMER'S WALK AND THAT HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON I
02:44:48PM THINK IT WAS AUGUST 22 THAT ONE WAS APPROVED BE COUNCIL.
02:44:51PM SO THIS IS BRINGING IT BACK SO OUR FILES WERE KIND OF
02:44:57PM COMPLAINT AND CURED WITH THE CODE.
02:44:58PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
02:45:00PM OTHERS WERE EVENT DETAILS THE THIRD THURSDAY ONE IS ACTUALLY
02:45:08PM FOR A FULL QUARTER OF THREE EVENTS.
02:45:11PM SO THAT -- THAT DOES HAVE FUTURE EVENTS N THERE.
02:45:15PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT GOT IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
02:45:18PM THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANES.
02:45:21PM THOSE EVENTS STILL HAVE SOME DATES TAKING PLACE IN NOVEMBER
02:45:25PM AND DECEMBER.
02:45:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
02:45:29PM I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION.
02:45:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:45:33PM DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THOSE ITEMS.
02:45:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOVE 19-22.
02:45:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:45:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:45:44PM OPPOSED?
02:45:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BRODY.
02:45:47PM WE GO TO 72 AND 73.
02:45:54PM ASK COUNCIL TO LET MR. BHIDE TO FINISH HIS PRESENTATION.
02:45:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW WOULD WE NOT LET HIM FINISH?
02:46:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
02:46:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I RECOGNIZE US.
02:46:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, GO THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION
02:46:11PM AND WE WILL HOLD QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, NO INTERRUPTIONS
02:46:15PM UNTIL YOU ARE FINISHED.
02:46:17PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
02:46:20PM VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
02:46:22PM HERE TO ADDRESS ITEMS 72 AND 73.
02:46:25PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT WAS SENT BY ME TO COUNCIL A LITTLE
02:46:29PM LATHE, BUT IT IS ON THE FILE SO YOU HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY
02:46:36PM THIS MORNING.
02:46:36PM THIS PROJECT IS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROCESS.
02:46:42PM THAT IS WHAT THESE TWO MOTIONS ARE ABOUT.
02:46:45PM HE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND HOW THIS CAME ABOUT
02:46:48PM WITH THIS PROJECT.
02:46:49PM I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR CLARIFICATION.
02:46:51PM WHAT OUR GOALS ARE WITH THIS PROJECT, HOW THE CONTRACTOR WAS
02:46:57PM SELECTED, AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS
02:47:00PM PUT OUT THERE.
02:47:00PM INVALID CONCERNS, I WOULD SAY.
02:47:05PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES THE WATER SHED
02:47:10PM THAT IS ENCLOSED BY PALMA CEIA VINES, PARKWOOD ESTATES,
02:47:19PM BAYSHORE GARDEN -- YEAH, BAYSHORE GARDEN AND ONE OTHER
02:47:23PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:47:24PM THIS WAS DOCUMENTED IN THE ORIGINAL STUDY BY JMP.
02:47:33PM AND ON PEND ONE, IT KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE WATERSHED IS.
02:47:39PM YEAH, SURE.
02:47:40PM SO I AM GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS REPORT FOR A SECOND FIRST
02:47:51PM WE HAVE KNOWN THAT THIS AREA OR THIS WATER HEAD IN AN
02:47:55PM INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM AND A OUTFALL SYSTEM FOR AT
02:47:59PM LEAST MORE THAN TWO DECADES.
02:48:01PM WE KNOW THIS AREA HAS INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE.
02:48:04PM THE CHALLENGE HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN RESOURCES WHICH WAS
02:48:11PM ADDRESSED IN 2016 BY THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
02:48:14PM THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR BEING THE CRITICAL VOTE ON THAT.
02:48:18PM AND THAT CREATED THE RESOURCES FOR THIS PROJECT.
02:48:21PM WE STUDIED THIS FOR THE LAST NINE YEARS, THE STORMWATER AND
02:48:26PM ENGINEERING TEAM AND WE HAVE A VERY PROFICIENT TEAM THAT HAS
02:48:30PM LOOKED AT VARIOUS OPTIONS THROUGH TWO CONSULTANT AND INHOUSE
02:48:37PM STUDIES.
02:48:38PM WE HAVE DEWBERRY DO WORK AND JMT.
02:48:45PM IN 2022, WELL JMT LOOK AT ALL THESE STUDIES WITH THE GOAL OF
02:48:52PM FEASIBLE AND REALISTIC ALTERNATIVES FOR PROJECTS.
02:48:55PM PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS.
02:49:02PM WE LOOKED AT 19 ROUTE OPTIONS I WILL BRING THIS PICTURE HERE
02:49:11PM JUST TO GIVE COUNCIL AN IDEA.
02:49:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
02:49:31PM >>VIK BHIDE: AND BAYSHORE IS DOWN HERE.
02:49:34PM SO THIS STUDY HAS RECEIVED CAREFUL STUDY CONSIDERATION.
02:49:40PM THIS ENTIRE ASSESSMENT AND REVIEW.
02:49:43PM IN JUNE OF 2022, THIS PROJECT FIRST AND IN -- IN THE
02:49:51PM QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE SUBMIT TO COUNCIL THAT HIGHLIGHTS
02:49:58PM ALL OF OUR MAJOR PROJECTS.
02:50:00PM AND THAT LISTED AS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS.
02:50:04PM IT HIGHLIGHTS SMALLER PROJECTS, SECTION TWO OF THAT
02:50:07PM QUARTERLY REPORT AND I KNOW THERE IS DISCUSSION ABOUT IT
02:50:10PM EARLIER TODAY BREAKS DOWN HOW MUCH WE HAVE COLLECT IN
02:50:17PM SERVICE AND IMPROVEMENT.
02:50:19PM THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONFUSION AND QUESTION OF WHAT IS THE
02:50:23PM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SERVICE AND THE IMPROVEMENT
02:50:25PM ASSESSMENT.
02:50:26PM I WILL REITERATE, THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT PAYS FOR LARGE
02:50:31PM CAPITAL PROJECTS LIKE THE ONE RIGHT NOW.
02:50:33PM THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT IS TWO THINGS.
02:50:37PM ONE IS THE STORMWATER OPERATIONS DIVISION.
02:50:41PM THE TEAM THAT GOES THERE BEFORE THE STORM, AFTER THE STORM,
02:50:45PM AND DOES SOME PORTION OF MAINTENANCE.
02:50:47PM OTHER PORTION OF MAITENANCE IS DONE BY CONTRACTORS.
02:50:50PM ALL OF OUR PRODUCTION WORK IS DOCUMENTED ON
02:50:58PM TAMPA.GOV/METRICS UNDER MOBILITY AND STORMWATER OPERATIONS.
02:51:01PM AND METRICS.
02:51:05PM IN ADDITION TO THAT I RECEIVE WEEKLY METRICS FROM OUR
02:51:09PM STORMWATER OPERATIONS TEAM.
02:51:10PM AGAIN A BACK GROUND ON ALL OF THAT.
02:51:12PM SO, AGAIN, WE HAVE KNOWN ABOUT THIS FOR DECADES.
02:51:17PM WE PLAN DIFFERENT ROUTES.
02:51:19PM WE PRESENTED FEASIBLE REALISTIC ALTERNATIVE OF LEVERAGING
02:51:28PM SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE THIS IS HOW THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING
02:51:33PM RELIEF PROJECT CAME ABOUT.
02:51:34PM REASON -- THE MAIN THREE REASONS FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD ROUTE.
02:51:38PM ONE IS, THERE IS A BOX PUT IN 40 OR 50 YEARS BACK UNDER
02:51:44PM THE CSX TRACKS.
02:51:46PM THIS IS CRITICAL, BECAUSE CSX COORDINATION AS MANY OF YOU
02:51:50PM KNOW CAN DELAY ANY PROJECT BY SEVERAL YEARS.
02:51:53PM IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
02:51:55PM AND THAT IS A FACTOR.
02:51:57PM THE OTHER PART OF THIS -- BECAUSE THIS IS A GRAVITY SYSTEM,
02:52:01PM THE OUTFALL GOES OUT TO BAYSHORE.
02:52:04PM THERE IS AN EXISTING BOX AT HOWARD AND BAYSHORE.
02:52:08PM SO LEVERAGING THESE TWO ASSETS AND THEN LEVERAGING A LINEAR
02:52:13PM PATH WHICH IS A SECOND PIECE OF IT BECAUSE IT IS A GRAVITY
02:52:16PM SYSTEM AND YOU DON'T WANT A LOT OF 90-DEGREE TURNS.
02:52:20PM A LINEAR PATH TO CONVEY WATER DOWN TO THE OUTFALL WAS THE
02:52:26PM OTHER REASONS THIS WAS SELECTED.
02:52:31PM THE THIRD REASON HAS TO DO WITH COST AND VIABILITY.
02:52:34PM AND THERE ARE MANY FACTORS ARE RELATED TO VIABILITY, BUT
02:52:37PM WHEN IT COMES TO COST WITH STORMWATER PROJECTS, EN BOX
02:52:41PM CULVERT PROJECTS.
02:52:42PM AND I WILL TOUCH UP ON WHY PONDS ARE IN THE FEASIBLE AND
02:52:46PM OTHER OPTIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TODAY IS SIMPLY THE
02:52:50PM DISTANCE OF THE PROJECT.
02:52:51PM THE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT DRIVES THE COST BECAUSE OF THE
02:52:55PM SIZE OF THE BOX.
02:52:56PM SO MacDILL WAS MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY.
02:53:01PM A PROJECT ALONG MacDILL TO IMPACT THIS BASIN BOOK 50% LONGER
02:53:07PM IN LENGTH.
02:53:07PM PLUS IT CON FACILITATES THE DESIGN BECAUSE THE BOX MAY HAVE
02:53:12PM TO BE LARGER.
02:53:13PM WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, BECAUSE THAT IS A FUNCTION OF
02:53:16PM DESIGN.
02:53:16PM BECAUSE IT COLLECTS OTHER DRAINAGE BASINS ALONG THE WAY.
02:53:19PM THE SAME WITH SWANN GOING OUT TO BAYSHORE, ABOUT 30% LARGER.
02:53:26PM SO SOUTH HOWARD OR ADJACENT ROUTES WERE THE MOST VIABLE.
02:53:31PM SO THAT IS ABOUT THE ROUTE AS I MENTIONED THE PROJECT WAS
02:53:38PM DEFINED IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT OF 2022 AND IN 2023, WE
02:53:45PM SELECTED THE DESIGN-BUILD TEAM FOR THIS PROBABLY.
02:53:50PM THIS WAS DONE USING THE CCNA METHOD.
02:53:55PM HOW WE SELECT ALL DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACTS.
02:53:58PM IT IS THE PROPER METHOD FOR LARGE PROJECTS.
02:54:01PM THIS IS A PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
02:54:04PM WE SELECTED KIMMINS FOR THE PROJECT WITH ATKINS REALIS AND
02:54:11PM SLEW OF SUB CONSULTANTS.
02:54:15PM SIM KIMMINS HAS A STELLAR TRACK RECORD.
02:54:20PM THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING THE MacDILL 48 LOWER
02:54:25PM PENINSULA PROJECT.
02:54:25PM THIS PROJECT WON THE ASC, AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CIVIL ENGINEER
02:54:30PM AWARDS AT THIS YEAR'S ANNUAL MEETING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
02:54:35PM SO IT IS AN AWARD-WINNING PROJECT.
02:54:38PM THIS PROJECT, ALONG WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE
02:54:42PM SINCE 2016 AND THE IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT.
02:54:45PM SO I AM TALKING OF CYPRESS STREET.
02:54:47PM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
02:54:50PM UPPER PENINSULA BY DALE MABRY AND HENDERSON.
02:54:55PM ALL OF THESE PROJECTS THROUGH THE TWO STORMS THAT WE JUST
02:54:58PM HAD THROUGH THE RECORD WETTEST SEPTEMBER TO DATE PERFORMED
02:55:08PM VERY WELL.
02:55:08PM DRAINAGE SYSTEM IN THESE PROJECT AREAS WORK WELL.
02:55:12PM WE KNOW THESE PROJECTS WORK WELL.
02:55:14PM NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WILL NOT DELIVER THE
02:55:17PM OUTCOME THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WHATEVER THOSE OUTCOMES,
02:55:21PM THE OUTCOMES ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS ARE TO
02:55:27PM BUILD THE LARGEST POSSIBLE STORMWATER SYSTEM TO MITIGATE
02:55:33PM FLOODING WITHIN THIS BASIN.
02:55:34PM WE HAVE MODELLED THE BOX FOR 100-YEAR EVENT AND ALL THE
02:55:40PM OTHER SUB SYSTEMS WILL BE MODELLED FOR THE LARGEST CAPACITY.
02:55:47PM BASED ON OUR MODELLING SO FAR, EVENTS LIKE WE HAVE SEEN
02:55:51PM RECENTLY WILL COST STREET FLOODING AND WOULD HAVE MITIGATED
02:55:56PM A MAJORITY.
02:55:59PM AND THIS IS PACED ON MODELING AFTER THE STORM KNOWING THE
02:56:03PM ORIGINAL MODELING WITH THE -- OUR EXPERIENCE WITH OTHER
02:56:08PM STORMWATER PROJECTS THAT ARE SIMILAR TO THIS.
02:56:10PM I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT -- ABOUT OUTREACH AND
02:56:20PM SOME OF THE RESOURCES WHERE YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION ON THIS
02:56:23PM PROJECT.
02:56:23PM SO WE HAVE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF PRELIMINARY OUTREACH ON
02:56:33PM THIS PROJECT.
02:56:34PM THERE WAS CONCERN OF US NOT HAVING DOING ENOUGH OUTREACH AND
02:56:38PM BEFORE A RFQ WAS RELEASED, WE MET WITH KEY MEMBERS,
02:56:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS.
02:56:42PM AND MET WITH THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE.
02:56:50PM THIS PROJECTS LIKE THESE WILL BE IMPACTFUL AND PROJECTS LIKE
02:56:58PM THESE GENERATIONAL PROJECTS.
02:57:00PM AND SET FORTH INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE NEXT 50 TO 70 2023-2024
02:57:09PM QUESTION GOT 100-YEAR-OLD INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY TODAY.
02:57:12PM AND ENGINEER SPEAK, THE WARRANTY IS 50 YEARS I GUESS BUT
02:57:18PM THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL LAST A LONG TIME CONSIDERS SEA
02:57:22PM LEVEL RISE.
02:57:23PM WE WILL HAVE TO CONSIDER SEA LEVEL RISE AND WHEN WE GET INTO
02:57:31PM THE DESIGN PHASE OF THIS CONTRACT, IT WILL CONSIDER THE
02:57:34PM LATEST AVAILABLE DATA IN LIGHT OF OUR RESILIENCE CHALLENGES
02:57:47PM BUT THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT IS VARIED.
02:57:49PM $11 MILLION COMMITTED BY THEA AND COMMITTING $11 MILLION AS
02:58:00PM THEY DO THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY PROJECT, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO
02:58:04PM SOME MITIGATION, SO THERE IS SOME -- SOME VALUE FOR BOTH
02:58:09PM ENTITY IN THIS PARTNERSHIP.
02:58:10PM SO WE ARE BENEFITTING FROM THAT.
02:58:12PM AS IS THEA I WOULD SAY.
02:58:17PM FDEP THROUGH THEIR RESILIENT FLORIDA PROGRAM AWARDED THE
02:58:22PM CITY A $10 MILLION GRANT THAT COUNCIL GRACIOUSLY APPROVED
02:58:26PM EARLIER THIS YEAR.
02:58:28PM THIS WAS A COMPETITIVE GRANT AND COME WITH VERY CLEAR
02:58:33PM GUIDELINES AND A REVIEW PROCESS.
02:58:35PM THIS MONEY COULD HAVE GONE ANYWHERE AND SAW THE VALUE IN
02:58:39PM INVESTING IN THIS PROJECT FOR THE ANTICIPATED OUTCOMES.
02:58:43PM I SON-IN-LAW SAY THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL SET OF EYES THAT
02:58:47PM VALIDATE THIS APPROACH.
02:58:48PM AND THIS PROJECT.
02:58:50PM I WOULD LIKE TO NOW HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS THAT THE COMMUNITY
02:58:58PM HAD MENTIONED RELATIVE TO JUST VARIOUS CONCERNS.
02:59:01PM SO I THINK THE ISSUE OF SURGE WAS BROUGHT UP.
02:59:07PM THAT THEY PUT IN A BOX CULVERT WITH AN OUTFALL.
02:59:10PM THEN THAT BECOMES SUSCEPTIBLE TO SURGE AS THE WATER SURGES
02:59:15PM UP THE BOX.
02:59:15PM WHICH IS A GOOD POINT.
02:59:18PM WHICH IS A VALID POINT WHAT I WILL ADD TO THAT ABSENT A BOX,
02:59:23PM THE WATER IS STILL COMING IN.
02:59:25PM BUT NOW YOU HAVE A BOX TO STORE SOME OF THAT WATER AND SOME
02:59:28PM OF IT MAY COME OUT WHERE YOU HAVE INLETS.
02:59:31PM THAT HAPPENS.
02:59:32PM WE SEE THAT IN VERY LOW-LYING AREAS RIGHT NOW.
02:59:35PM WITH DAYLIGHT FLOODING EVENT DURING KING TIDES THIS WILL
02:59:49PM CONTINUE WHICH IS WHY WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THIS.
02:59:52PM THE GULF WATER HAVE SET A RECORD YEAR UPON YEAR, THE WARMER
03:00:04PM THE GULF WATERS, THE STRONGER THE STORMS WE WILL HAVE.
03:00:09PM THIS DOES NOT CHANGE.
03:00:10PM WE NEED INFRASTRUCTURE IN A HURRY.
03:00:12PM GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE THE FUND.
03:00:19PM USUALLY OUR CHALLENGE IS WE DON'T HAVE THE FUND AND DON'T
03:00:22PM HAVE A DEFINED PROJECT.
03:00:23PM THE GOOD NEWS IS WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT THE COMMUNITY
03:00:25PM TRUSTS THAT HAS A GREAT TRACK RECORD OF DELIVERING PROJECTS.
03:00:30PM AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE THIS PROJECT AS FAST AS
03:00:36PM POSSIBLE.
03:00:36PM ON THAT NOTE, I KNOW OTHER OPTIONS ARE REPRESENTED
03:00:42PM POTENTIALLY GETTING THIS WORK DONE EVEN SOONER.
03:00:45PM WE HAVE REVIEWED SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS PUT FORTH, AND WE DO
03:00:50PM NOT FEEL THAT THEY ARE FEASIBLE GIVEN THE POLICY FRAMEWORK
03:00:55PM THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WITHIN THE CITY, BE IT EMERGENCY
03:00:59PM POWERS, BE IT THE REQUIREMENT FOR CONTRACTING.
03:01:02PM WE HAVE HEARD ABOUT DESIGN-BUILD VERSUS DESIGN BID BILL
03:01:08PM BUILD.
03:01:08PM LET ME TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
03:01:10PM THIS -- THIS METHOD -- PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD OFFERS EVERY
03:01:16PM OPPORTUNITY THAT DESIGN BID BILL OFFERS.
03:01:19PM MEANING OF THAT WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE DESIGN TASK.
03:01:24PM THATCH DESIGN TASK IS GOING TO INCLUDE AN UNPRECEDENTED
03:01:32PM AMOUNT OF RESOURCES FOR OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
03:01:35PM AT EVERY LEVEL, CONCEPT, 30%, 60%, 90% DESIGN.
03:01:41PM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DESIGN TO GET THE INPUTS.
03:01:45PM A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS WE HEARD AND CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS
03:01:48PM ABOUT THIS PROJECT ARE RELATIVE TO THE DESIGN.
03:01:52PM THEY ARE NOT RELATIVE TO PLANNING.
03:01:54PM AND THAT IS SOME OF THE MESSAGING WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET
03:01:57PM OUT THERE.
03:01:57PM SOME GETTING THAT DESIGN STARTED WILL ACTUALLY START
03:02:03PM ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS.
03:02:04PM ONCE DESIGN IS COMPLETE AS IT GOES WITH ALL THE DESIGN-BUILD
03:02:08PM PROJECTS, COUNCIL WILL HAVE A SECOND STAB OF IMPROVING
03:02:14PM THE GMP, OR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THIS.
03:02:16PM SO IN THAT SENSE, IT IS SIMILAR TO DESIGN BID BUILD.
03:02:20PM THE KEY DIFFERENCES IS WITH THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD ARE
03:02:24PM THE FOLLOWING, ONE IS A ACCOUNTABILITY.
03:02:27PM WE HAVE ONE PARTY THAT IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ENTIRE
03:02:31PM PROCESS.
03:02:31PM THAT REALLY HELPS.
03:02:33PM THE SECOND IS SCHEDULE.
03:02:35PM PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILDS ARE ACTUALLY FASTER.
03:02:39PM AND THE REASON THEY ARE FASTER IS AS SUBSTANTIAL DESIGN IS
03:02:44PM BEING COMPLETED, THE BUILDER THAT IS TYPICALLY THE CLIENT
03:02:49PM KNOWS WHAT EQUIPMENT TO ORDER.
03:02:50PM LEAD TIMES ARE SHORTER.
03:02:52PM STARTS WORKING ON MEANS AND METHODS OF CONSTRUCTION.
03:02:56PM AND THAT ALLOWS FOR THOSE SCHEDULES TO BE COMPRESSED A
03:02:59PM LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
03:03:00PM AND THE THIRD IS COST FOR LARGE PROJECTS.
03:03:04PM PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD IS TYPICALLY THE PREFERRED METHOD
03:03:08PM BECAUSE WE CAN BE A LOWER COST.
03:03:11PM SO THERE WILL BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
03:03:14PM PUBLIC WILL GET A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN BEFORE THIS GOES TO
03:03:17PM CONSTRUCTION, BUT THE BUILDER WILL HAVE MUCH BETTER
03:03:24PM INFORMATION IN ADVANCE TO STAGE THE CONSTRUCTION, TO
03:03:26PM MINIMIZE IMPACTS AND THERE WILL BE IMPACTS, AND TO PLAN THE
03:03:30PM PROBABLY -- THE OVERALL PROJECT BETTER.
03:03:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ANOTHER POINT OR ADVANTAGE ABOUT
03:03:37PM THIS DURING THAT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
03:03:39PM THE COMMUNITY HALLS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO
03:03:45PM THE DESIGN BUILDER.
03:03:47PM WHAT PARAMETERS THEY WANT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
03:03:51PM DO THEY WANT TO WORK THROUGH WEEKENDS.
03:03:53PM DO WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH NIGHTS SO THAT IMPACT SCHEDULE.
03:03:58PM THESE FLEXIBILITIES ARE AVAILABLE IN THE CONTRACT.
03:04:00PM WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE, WHAT
03:04:04PM WE HAVE PROVIDED IN TERMS OF ANTICIPATED SCOPE IS TO
03:04:08PM MINIMIZE THE IMPACT OF DISRUPTION TO BUSINESSES ALONG HOWARD
03:04:13PM AVENUE.
03:04:13PM AND WE HAVE SHARED THE BEST AVAILABLE INFORMATION THAT WE
03:04:17PM HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONTRACTOR WITH US WHEN WE MET WITH
03:04:22PM THE BUSINESS ALLIANCE OR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
03:04:23PM FINALLY, I WANT TO CLOSE WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION.
03:04:31PM SO AS THE MEMO STATES IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS -- WELL, BEFORE
03:04:40PM I GET TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST SHARE OUR STAFF ARE
03:04:46PM DRIVEN BY PUBLIC SERVICE.
03:04:47PM WE HAVE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TEAM AT THE STORMWATER
03:04:54PM ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
03:04:54PM WE HAVE 1 ENGINEERS AND TECHNICIANS.
03:04:58PM THIS IS THE LARGER TEAM THAN MOST LARGE CONSULTING TERMS IN
03:05:03PM OUR STORMWATER DEPARTMENT.
03:05:05PM WE HAVE A DESIGN ENGINEER THAT WAS A CONSULTANT FOR DECADES
03:05:10PM BEFORE DECIDING HE WANTED TO GO INTO PUBLIC SERVICE.
03:05:13PM HE IS OUR CHIEF DESIGN ENGINEER NOW.
03:05:15PM WE HAVE A STORMWATER MAJOR THAT WORKED FOR S.W.F.W.M.D.
03:05:22PM HER SPECIALTY IS WATER SHED MANAGEMENT.
03:05:26PM SHE IS LEADING OUR WATER SHED.
03:05:29PM OUR STAFF COMES FROM A PLACE OF PUBLIC SERVICE TO DELIVER
03:05:32PM THE BEST POSSIBLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:05:33PM AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT -- IS TO ACHIEVE THE
03:05:38PM FASTEST AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BRING FLOODING RELIEF TO
03:05:44PM PARKLAND HE IS STATES, PALMA CEIA PIPES AND ASSOCIATED
03:05:47PM DRAINAGE BASIN, WE ASK THAT ON NOVEMBER 21, WE WILL BRING TO
03:05:52PM YOU IT A DESIGN TASK THAT INCLUDES PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT FOR THE
03:05:56PM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
03:05:59PM THAT IS THE WAY TO GET THE PROJECT STARTED.
03:06:01PM WE ASK THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THAT TASK AND PUT US AND KIMMINS
03:06:07PM TO WORK TOWARD THIS PROJECT.
03:06:08PM AT THIS POINT, I WILL TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:06:11PM >> COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAS HIS MICROPHONE ON FIRST.
03:06:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU PUT THE PROBABLY MAP THAT YOU HAVE
03:06:20PM BACK ON?
03:06:30PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE ROUTE MAP?
03:06:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES PLEASE.
03:06:34PM I WANT TO SAY THAT WHAT HAPPENED IS, CORRECT ME IF I'M
03:06:37PM WRONG, THERE ISN'T -- THERE HAVEN'T BEEN AN ROUTE DECIDED UPON
03:06:41PM YET.
03:06:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: A FINAL ROUTE HAS NOT BEEN SELECTED.
03:06:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEHOW IN THE PUBLIC INFORMATION, THERE
03:06:49PM WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT A FINAL ROUTE HAD BEEN DETERMINED AND
03:06:52PM THAT SET OFF A FIRESTORM THAT -- THAT THIS WAS ALREADY SET
03:06:56PM IN STONE AND SO PEOPLE STARTED GETTING, YOU KNOW, UPSET,
03:06:59PM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS ALREADY DECIDED.
03:07:03PM SO WE ARE NOT THERE?
03:07:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
03:07:06PM LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
03:07:07PM THIS IS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
03:07:10PM IT IS ON THE BASIS THAT SOUTH HOWARD IS THE MOST VIABLE AND
03:07:17PM FEASIBLE ROUTE.
03:07:18PM HOW THIS PROJECT CONNECTS TO SOUTH HOWARD IS STILL OPEN.
03:07:24PM THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
03:07:26PM AND THAT DESIGN PROCESS WILL FIRST CONSIDER HOW DO WE MOVE
03:07:31PM WATER BEST, WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS BOTH TO TREES, TO
03:07:35PM BUSINESSES, TO RESIDENCES, ALL OF THAT.
03:07:37PM THAT IS A FUNCTION AND FLEXIBILITY AVAILABLE TO THE
03:07:40PM DESIGNERS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
03:07:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND INITIALLY AS THIS WAS CONCEIVED
03:07:46PM BETWEEN THEA AND, YOU KNOW, EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE
03:07:50PM OUTFALL.
03:07:51PM THIS MOSTLY WAS -- HAD TO DO WITH SOUTH OF SWANN AND -- BUT
03:07:56PM NOW WE ARE EXPANDING THE CONCEPT BECAUSE OF CONCERNS BETWEEN
03:08:02PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND SWANN AND FRESH WATER.
03:08:05PM THIS IS AN EXPANDED SCOPE?
03:08:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
03:08:12PM NOT AN EXPANDED SCOPE BUT DOESN'T PRECLUDE ANYTHING NORTH OF
03:08:17PM SWANN.
03:08:17PM THIS IS PART OF ONE WATER SHED.
03:08:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO GET TO THAT.
03:08:21PM KEEP IN YOUR HAND BECAUSE I STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
03:08:26PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
03:08:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS
03:08:29PM PART OF THE MISCONCEPTION AS WELL.
03:08:31PM BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE LIVE IN FLORIDA WITH A
03:08:34PM CAPITAL F, THAT PEOPLE THINK OF FLOODING DURING THESE STORMS
03:08:37PM AS STORM SURGE TYPE OF FLOODING AND FLOOD ZONES AND WHATNOT.
03:08:41PM THIS AREA AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY THAT EXPERIENCE THIS
03:08:44PM FLOODING ARE BASINS.
03:08:45PM AND IT IS ME UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WATER SHED BASIN
03:08:48PM NATURALLY POOLS WATER.
03:08:51PM THE ONLY WAY TO GET WATER OUT OF THIS BASIN IS BY MAN-MADE
03:08:56PM WAYS OF GETTING IT OUT.
03:08:57PM WITHOUT MAN-MADE INTERVENTION BASICALLY A BOWL.
03:09:02PM IF I LOOK AT THE TOP GRAPHICAL MAP, IT IS A BOWL.
03:09:10PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT IS A SYSTEM THAT THE HIGHEST POINT IS PALMA
03:09:13PM CEIA PINES.
03:09:13PM HIGHER POINT BEYOND THAT KENNEDY AS WELL.
03:09:16PM THEN PARKLAND ESTATES AND KIND OF FLOWS DOWN.
03:09:20PM YOU SEE THAT ON HOWARD AVENUE.
03:09:21PM IN ESSENCE BY UPGRADING THE SYSTEM AT PARKLAND HE IS SKATES,
03:09:26PM AND ON SOUTH, IT DIRECTLY IMPACTS AND BENEFITS PALMA CEIA
03:09:32PM PINES AS WELL THROUGH THE EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS
03:09:35PM THE 36-INCH PIPE DOWN AUDUBON.
03:09:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT IF YOU DON'T MIND.
03:09:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD.
03:09:44PM >>VIK BHIDE: AS PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS, THE GOAL IS TO
03:09:48PM IMPACT THE WATER SHED AND TO BENEFIT THE WATER SHED.
03:09:51PM IF THE ANALYSIS FINDS THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE THAT 36-INCH
03:09:55PM PIPE IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE FROM PALMA CEIA TO BAYSHORE, THAT
03:10:04PM IS PART OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROCESS.
03:10:11PM OUR EXISTING ISSUES ARE.
03:10:18PM AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ON YOUR MAP.
03:10:22PM SO I CAN SEE -- I CAN READ IT BETTER NOW.
03:10:24PM AND MUST HAVE BEEN.
03:10:25PM I SEE SWANN AVENUE.
03:10:33PM POINT OUT HOWARD.
03:10:36PM LET'S GO NORTH.
03:10:37PM WE HAVE TWO MAJOR RETENTION PONDS.
03:10:40PM ONE WAS CREATED RELATIVELY RECENTLY OFF OF TAMPA NEA.
03:10:45PM AND THE OTHER ONE OF MEMORIAL HOSPITAL.
03:10:48PM WHAT PURPOSES TO THOSE TWO BEG RETENTION PONDS SERVE AND ARE
03:10:51PM THEY ACTUALLY SERVING THE INTENDED PURPOSE?
03:10:54PM ARE THEY FUNCTIONAL AND FUNCTIONING THE WAY THEY ANTICIPATED
03:10:58PM BEING FUNCTIONAL THE WAY THEY WERE INSTRUCTED.
03:11:01PM >> PART OF A INSUFFICIENT DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
03:11:06PM WHAT IS UNIQUE OF THE AMI POND, FOR EXAMPLE.
03:11:09PM GRAVITY WISE, THE AUDUBON PIPE IS AN OVERFLOW TO THAT POND
03:11:14PM THAT FLOWS DOWN TO PARKLAND ESTATES AND SWANN AND AUDUBON IS
03:11:19PM KIND OF THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL WHERE THE WATER COLLECTS.
03:11:22PM THE PUMP ACTUALLY FEEDS AND PUMPS WEST TO THE CLEVELAND
03:11:32PM BASIN.
03:11:33PM OF DEVELOPING THE WATERSHED MASTER PLAN WE FEEL PRETTY GOOD
03:11:41PM NAT CLEVELAND BASIN IS AMONG THE HIGHER SCORING PROJECTS.
03:11:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE IS THE OUTFLOW OF THE CLEVELAND
03:11:54PM BASIN.
03:11:56PM >>VIK BHIDE: EAST PARK.
03:11:57PM CLARK, SWANN AND ALL OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE SEE FLOODING,
03:12:01PM SIMILAR ISSUES.
03:12:02PM THAT IS A 1950s SYSTEM.
03:12:04PM ALL OF THESE ARE INSUFFICIENT SYSTEMS RELATIVE TO WHEN THEY
03:12:08PM WERE BUILT AND HOW THEY FUNCTION.
03:12:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, SO -- OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I MADE THE
03:12:14PM MOTION OF THE BRISTOL MOTION AND I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE
03:12:19PM CONCERNS AND SPOKE WITH THE MAYOR OF SOME OF THESE THINGS.
03:12:22PM I CAN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS NOT UNDER ROUTE
03:12:26PM CONSIDERATION OF USING THAT WIDE CORRIDOR ON SWANN.
03:12:30PM IF WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE WATER IF IT IS COMING FROM THE
03:12:33PM HIGHER TO LOWER, YOU HAVE THIS BROAD SWANN AVENUE WHICH BY
03:12:37PM THE WAY SELF-INTEREST, I LIVE ON SWANN.
03:12:39PM IT WOULD BE AN IMPACT ON ME TO HAVE TO HAVE THIS
03:12:44PM INCONVENIENCED ON SWANN.
03:12:45PM BUT -- WHY -- WHY WASN'T -- WHY IS IT NOT BEING CONSIDERED
03:12:50PM AT LEAST TO HAVE THAT ROUTE AS A CONSIDERATION OF SWANN TO
03:12:53PM HOWARD.
03:12:53PM SO WE HAVE THAT ENTIRE SECTION OF HOWARD ON THE NORTH
03:12:56PM SECTION OF HOWARD IS NOT ON THE CONSIDERATION MAP.
03:13:04PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION AND HAS TO DO WITH
03:13:07PM THREE THINGS.
03:13:07PM ONE IS IMPACT.
03:13:08PM THE OTHER IS EXISTING UTILITIES.
03:13:11PM AND THE THIRD IS RELATIVE TO THE OTHER TWO ROUTES.
03:13:15PM WHAT -- AGAIN, BACK TO IMPACT, BASICALLY HOW DOES THE
03:13:21PM HYDROLOGY WORK OUT THERE.
03:13:23PM BECAUSE IT IS FURTHER NORTH.
03:13:24PM SO SWANN IS PART OF THE THREE ROUTES THAT WE ARE GOING TO
03:13:28PM LOOK AT SWANN, BRISTOL OR MORRISON.
03:13:37PM IF IT TURNS THAT SWANN IS THE ROUTE TO BE COLLECTED, THE
03:13:40PM CHALLENGE WITH SWANN BECAUSE IT HAS OTHER UTILITIES ALREADY
03:13:44PM UNDER SWANN AVENUE, WE WILL STILL NEED A FULL CLOSURE.
03:13:48PM WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO LEAVE ANY LANES OPEN.
03:13:51PM AND SO -- AND THIS IS WITHOUT THE DESIGN HAVING STARTED YET.
03:13:55PM BUT -- BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL CLOSURE OF
03:14:00PM ARMENIA, HOWARD AND SWANN AT THE SAME TIME.
03:14:02PM AND -- AND AN ACCURATE POINT WAS MADE EARLIER TODAY.
03:14:05PM SOUTH OF SWANN, WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT GRID BETWEEN MacDILL,
03:14:11PM BAYSHORE GOING NORTH ALL THE WAY BACK TO PLATT OR SWANN.
03:14:15PM AND SO THAT COULD CREATE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS NOT TO MENTION
03:14:20PM A SCHOOL OUT THERE AND THE GREEK CHURCH AS WELL AND IMPACTS
03:14:23PM FOR EVERYONE.
03:14:24PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE SAYING, LET'S GO THROUGH THE DESIGN
03:14:27PM PROCESS.
03:14:27PM LET'S GO THROUGH ENGAGEMENT AND LET THE FACTS SPEAK FOR
03:14:31PM THEMSELVES AS PART OF THE PROCESS.
03:14:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEEMS LIKE THE GAP ON HOWARD AS FAR AS NOT
03:14:36PM HAVING THE GRID IS BETWEEN BRISTOL AND THAT ONE BLOCK SOUTH
03:14:39PM OF BRISTOL WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD WAY TO GET AROUND
03:14:42PM THAT ONE BLOCK.
03:14:42PM THAT IS AN OBSTACLE.
03:14:44PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT AN OBSTACLE.
03:14:53PM NORTH OF AUDUBON NORTH AND SOUTH OF SWANN.
03:14:56PM THE PIPE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE.
03:14:59PM AND THE PIPE IS, THERE.
03:15:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS PROJECT EXPANDING THE DIAMETER OF THE
03:15:04PM PIPE FROM THE ANTIQUATED COLLECTION SYSTEM IN NORTH OF
03:15:09PM SWANN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING OR
03:15:12PM ASKING THE CONTRACTOR LOOK AT FOR STORMWATER RELIEF IN THAT
03:15:16PM AREA BETWEEN SWANN AND KENNEDY?
03:15:22PM >>VIK BHIDE: BETWEEN SWANN AND KENNEDY, WE WILL TAKE A LOOK
03:15:25PM AT IT.
03:15:26PM AND THE FUNCTION OF THE DESIGN AGAIN.
03:15:28PM IF THE AUDUBON PIPE IS NOT SUFFICIENT NORTH OF SWANN,
03:15:35PM UPGRADES WILL BE SUGGESTED TO THAT 36-INCH PIPE.
03:15:39PM THE SYSTEM PUMPS OUT WEST AND YOU CAN'T DREDGE THESE PONDS
03:15:43PM ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE WATER TABLE.
03:15:45PM AND THEN ON THAT SAME NOTE, ALSO A MENTION ABOUT BALL PARK.
03:15:49PM AND WE CAN BUILD A POND THERE AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
03:15:51PM FOR THE WATER SHED IN THE FLOOD AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT,
03:15:55PM WE -- WE WOULD REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF REAL ESTATE TO
03:15:59PM CREATE A VIABLE STORAGE POND.
03:16:01PM AND THAT STILL HASN'T OVERFLOW CHALLENGE LIKE THE AMR POND
03:16:09PM WHY THE AUDUBON WAS PUT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
03:16:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION AND I WILL LET
03:16:16PM THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS SPEAK.
03:16:19PM DON'T LAUGH AT ME -- WITH RAINFALL, THE WAY THIS PROJECT IS
03:16:23PM NOW CONCEIVED, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL CAPACITY OF RAIN PER HOUR
03:16:29PM IT WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE WITHOUT A SURGE BACKING UP
03:16:32PM INTO THE SYSTEM.
03:16:32PM A CLEAN SYSTEM FROM POINT A ALL THE WAY TO POINT Z, HOW MUCH
03:16:37PM RAIN IT WILL ABSORB PER HOUR WITHOUT CREATING FRESHWATER
03:16:41PM FLOODING IN THESE NEIGHBORHOOD?
03:16:45PM >> THERE IS A MIXED ANSWER TO THAT AND REALLY A FUNK OF
03:16:47PM DESIGN.
03:16:48PM THE BOX CULVERTS ARE IN 100 YEAR STORM.
03:17:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHICH WE ARE GETTING EVERY THREE YEARS
03:17:03PM NOW.
03:17:03PM [LAUGHTER]
03:17:04PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE FUNCTION OF THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THE GOAL
03:17:07PM TO DESIGN THE LARGEST POSSIBLE SYSTEM WITHIN THE PROJECT
03:17:10PM SCOPE.
03:17:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I'M TRYING TO AVOID AND I WILL SHUT
03:17:16PM UP.
03:17:16PM WHAT I AM TRYING TO AVOID, PEOPLE HAVE A HIGH EXPECTATION OF
03:17:21PM THIS.
03:17:21PM AND MY CONCERN IS THAT WE WILL NEVER MEET FOLK'S
03:17:27PM EXPECTATION.
03:17:27PM AND ON THE SEVENTH YEAR, PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO GET
03:17:31PM FLOODED.
03:17:32PM >>VIK BHIDE: VERY GOOD POINT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CAUTION
03:17:35PM ON THAT.
03:17:36PM SO, ONE, WE ANTICIPATE THIS BEING DONE IN FOUR.
03:17:50PM IN TERMS OF MANAGING EXPECTATIONS, ON PAPERER, NOT IT HE
03:17:54PM SIGNED FOR A CATEGORY 5 OR CATEGORY 3 STORM NECESSARILY, THE
03:17:59PM SYSTEM ITSELF, BUT IF WE LOOK AT THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE
03:18:02PM COMPLETED THAT WENT THROUGH THE TWO STORMS IN 12 DAYS, THOSE
03:18:05PM SYSTEMS PERFORM VERY WELL.
03:18:07PM ALL OF THE NEW PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE.
03:18:09PM SO WE KNOW THIS WORKS.
03:18:11PM AND SOUTH -- SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, FOR EXAMPLE.
03:18:14PM THE PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER WERE IMPACTED, BUT THE
03:18:18PM PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOT ON THE RIVER, PART OF THAT SYSTEM
03:18:22PM DID VERY WELL.
03:18:22PM SO, AGAIN -- YOU KNOW -- THERE IS NO -- THERE IS NO DIRECT
03:18:29PM ANSWER TO WHAT STORM CONDITION UNTIL WE REALLY START DESIGN
03:18:33PM AND WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH.
03:18:34PM THE BOX IS DESIGNED FOR 100-YEAR CONDITION.
03:18:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE YOU AND STAFF AND BEING VERY
03:18:41PM RECEPTIVE AND ANSWERING THESE QUESTIONS OFFLINE AS WELL.
03:18:45PM NOT AT IN MEETING BUT BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
03:18:48PM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.
03:18:49PM THANK YOU.
03:18:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:18:57PM YOUR MICROPHONE.
03:18:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU,
03:19:02PM I THINK.
03:19:02PM AND YOU ALWAYS COME TO THE MEETINGS.
03:19:07PM AND NEIGHBORS SAY WE NEED TO TRUST ENGINEERS.
03:19:11PM HE WORKED WITH A LOT OF ENGINEERS AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AN
03:19:13PM IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY; HOWEVER, THIS -- NOT YOU, BUT THIS
03:19:17PM ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING THIS PROJECT, ALSO IS THE
03:19:21PM ADMINISTRATION TO PUSHED TOILET TO TAP AND WHOLE OTHER
03:19:25PM PROJECTS THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WANT AND FURTHER ANALYSIS
03:19:28PM -- WHAT I FIND IT DOING -- ECONOMIC AND ENGINEERING ANALYSIS
03:19:34PM AND FINANCIAL ANALYSIS THAT EVERYTHING IS BIASED BY THE
03:19:37PM MODEL YOU PUT INTO IT.
03:19:38PM ANYWAY, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE HERE
03:19:42PM THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, I NEVER SEEN THIS DOCUMENT BEFORE.
03:19:45PM HAVE YOU -- IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE WEBSITE OF THE
03:19:51PM --
03:19:56PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT IS.
03:19:57PM SOUTH HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF.
03:19:59PM WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION, TIMELINE.
03:20:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE SHAKING THEIR HEADS.
03:20:03PM I LOOKED AT ALL THE DOCUMENTS ON THE WEB SITE SO YOU DON'T
03:20:06PM HAVE TO LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT.
03:20:08PM THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THE
03:20:11PM ADMINISTRATION HAS STIRRED UP TROUBLE IN THIS LIKE THEY HAVE
03:20:13PM MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND MAINLY TO TAKE AWAY
03:20:19PM BLAME AGAINST THEM FOR NOT PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
03:20:21PM WHEN WAS THIS CITY COUNCIL FIRST BRIEFED ON THIS PROJECT?
03:20:25PM >>VIK BHIDE: THIS WAS IN YOUR QUARTERLY REPORT JUNE 2022.
03:20:29PM AND THERE WAS SEVERAL BRIEFINGS.
03:20:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: A VERY BRIEF WAY.
03:20:37PM NOT A LONG PRESENTATION.
03:20:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE DO THE GRADE A COMPUTATIONS.
03:20:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAT DOWN YOU WITH AND SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOOD
03:20:47PM ASSOCIATIONS ON OCTOBER 17.
03:20:48PM WASN'T THAT THE FIRST TIME I WAS FULLY BRIEFED AND ANSWERED
03:20:51PM QUESTIONS?
03:20:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: ACTUALLY SO -- WE HAD ONE ON ONE COUNCIL
03:20:56PM BRIEFS.
03:20:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU AND I HAD A PHONE CALL.
03:21:00PM >>VIK BHIDE: TEAMS BRIEFING YOU WITH ON JULY 17.
03:21:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS THIS IS CIRCULATED IN THE
03:21:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THIS PROJECT FOR
03:21:12PM FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
03:21:13PM IS THAT ACCURATE BASED ON THE DATES?
03:21:16PM >>VIK BHIDE: YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT LONG.
03:21:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL
03:21:22PM BEFORE, BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN SITTING ON THIS PROJECT AT
03:21:25PM THE MOST -- YOU COULD SAY 2022.
03:21:27PM BUT THAT WAS APPROVED AT THAT TIME.
03:21:29PM THE FIRST TIME I SAT DOWN AND HAD A FULL BRIEFING WHICH I
03:21:33PM INVITED MR. ADAMS TO AT HIS REQUEST AND I INVITED THE OTHER
03:21:37PM NEIGHBORHOODS TOO WAS ON OCTOBER 17.
03:21:39PM AND AFTER THAT, IT WAS -- WHEN DO YOU THINK WAS THE FIRST
03:21:43PM TIME THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL COULD HAVE APPROVED THIS
03:21:46PM PROJECT.
03:21:46PM IF EVERYTHING HA GONE THROUGH, WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS
03:21:50PM CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE APPROVED THIS PROJECT?
03:21:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT THE DESIGN TASK.
03:22:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID WE TO SOMETHING TO STOP YOU -- COULD YOU
03:22:04PM HAVE PUT THIS IN FRONT OF US JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THIS
03:22:08PM YEAR.
03:22:08PM BECAUSE I WASN'T BRIEFED UNTIL OCTOBER, CORRECT?
03:22:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTOR WAS SELECTED LAST
03:22:15PM SEPTEMBER.
03:22:16PM AND COUNCIL WAS BRIEFED --
03:22:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO SPEED UP THE TIME.
03:22:22PM WHEN IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
03:22:24PM APPROVE IT.
03:22:25PM ANY TIME BETWEEN DECEMBER AND THIS COMING NOVEMBER THAT WE
03:22:28PM WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE IT?
03:22:32PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE IT HE SIGN TASK IS THE FIRST APPROVAL.
03:22:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ALLEGATION THAT I DID SOMETHING TO SLOW
03:22:37PM THIS DOWN ISN'T TRUE EITHER, CORRECT.
03:22:40PM AND THEN HOW LONG -- HOW LONG -- IF -- ONCE WE APPROVE IT.
03:22:44PM IF WE APPROVE IF IN MOMENT FROM BEGINNING TO END, HOW LONG
03:22:49PM DOES IT TAKE TO FINISH THIS PROJECT.
03:22:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE ANTICIPATE FOUR YEARS.
03:22:53PM IT COULD BE SOONER.
03:22:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WILL IT START AND WHAT YEAR WILL IT BE
03:22:57PM COMPLETED.
03:22:58PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT WILL START IMMEDIATELY, THE DESIGN TASK UPON
03:23:01PM APPROVAL.
03:23:01PM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TOO GET YOU A GMP AND CONSTRUCTION WHICH
03:23:06PM IS YOUR LOGICAL NEXT STEP EARLY WORKS WITHIN TITHE TEN
03:23:15PM MONTHS AND MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN AFTER THAT.
03:23:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DATE WILL IT BE DONE, WHAT YEAR?
03:23:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE STARTED THIS NOVEMBER, WE WILL BE DONE
03:23:25PM NOVEMBER OF '29 -- -- '28.
03:23:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: '28 OR '29 DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT THINGS.
03:23:35PM NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONCERNED OF PROBLEMS NOW AND THE NEXT
03:23:38PM STORM.
03:23:38PM WE ALSO ARE CONCERNED -- I WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD.
03:23:41PM SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALLEGED THAT I AM NOT INTERESTED IN SOLVE
03:23:46PM CAN THE PROBLEM.
03:23:46PM I ABSOLUTELY AM.
03:23:47PM BUT WE DEAL WITH A CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS
03:23:50PM AGREE WITH.
03:23:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: MAY I SHARE A PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
03:23:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY THE ISSUE IS IT IS GOING TO TAKE
03:23:57PM UNTIL 2029.
03:23:57PM CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN -- WHEN THE WHERE THE CONSTRUCTION WILL
03:24:03PM BEGIN?
03:24:04PM WHERE IS THE POINT AT THE BEGINNING OF IT?
03:24:07PM >>VIK BHIDE: I WILL ADDRESS THAT AND THE POINT I WANT TO
03:24:10PM MAKE.
03:24:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM ASKING QUESTIONS.
03:24:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: AND ANSWERING YOUR PREVIOUS QUESTION AS WELL
03:24:15PM BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT.
03:24:16PM START DOWNSTREAM.
03:24:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: STARTING AT BAYSHORE.
03:24:20PM >>VIK BHIDE: BAYSHORE AND WE WORK UP.
03:24:22PM THE BENEFITS OF THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH THE WHOLE PROJECT
03:24:25PM WILL TAKE FOUR YEARS, THE MINUTE WE START WORKING TO EVERY
03:24:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD IT CONNECTS TO STARTS BENEFITING.
03:24:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE CONNECTING AT BAYSHORE.
03:24:34PM THE ENDS IN TWO YEARS, TWO OR THREE YEARS.
03:24:37PM IF A BIG STORM COMES, THE NEIGHBORHOOD GETS FLOODED.
03:24:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CONCERN WE HAVE IS WHAT WILL WE DO IN
03:24:46PM THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS.
03:24:47PM A LONG-TERM AND SHORT-TERM SITUATION THAT WE NEED TO
03:24:50PM ADDRESS.
03:24:50PM EVEN IF WE APPROVE THIS A BUNCH OF NEIGHBORS COMING IN
03:24:54PM SAYING OUR HOUSES ARE FLOODED AND OUR LEAVES ARE DESTROYED.
03:24:56PM WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP THAT AND A SITUATION
03:25:00PM FACING.
03:25:01PM TO THIS DAY, HAS THE CITY PRESENTED ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
03:25:04PM THAT WILL PREVENT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM GETTING FLOODED
03:25:07PM BEFORE THE END OF 2028?
03:25:09PM >> IF YOU LOOK AT MY MEMO, THERE ARE NO SHORT-TERM
03:25:11PM SOLUTIONS.
03:25:12PM THERE IS -- THIS SOLUTION --
03:25:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY HAS NO PLAN -- JUST TO BE CLEAR,
03:25:20PM THE CITY HAS NO PLAN -- THERE IS NO PROPOSAL BEFORE CITY
03:25:23PM COUNCIL TO PRESENT FLOODING IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS EVEN IF
03:25:25PM WE APPROVED THIS.
03:25:26PM THEIR HOUSES ARE GOING TO GET FLOODED.
03:25:29PM AND THE CITY HAS -- HAS NO PLAN --
03:25:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS NOT ACCURATE --
03:25:34PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.
03:25:36PM THAT IS THE PART I WANTED TO CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN.
03:25:39PM AS WE CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION FROM BAYSHORE WORKING OUR WAY
03:25:43PM UPWARDS, EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT HITS STARTS
03:25:48PM BENEFITING.
03:25:48PM IF THEY ARE BENEFITING, THAT MEANS PARKLAND ULTIMATELY
03:25:52PM BENEFITS AS WELL AND PALMA CEIA PINES BECAUSE THAT WATER
03:25:57PM DRAIN AS LITTLE BETTER.
03:25:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK YOU A QUICK OVERLAY -- THE MAP ON
03:26:06PM THE FRONT PAGE OF THE WEB SITE -- I JUST WANT -- THIS IS THE
03:26:09PM MAP THAT IS THE FIRST COMMUNICATION THAT EVERYBODY HAS THAT
03:26:11PM LOOKS AT IN SITE.
03:26:12PM CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE PALMA CEIA PINES IS ON THIS?
03:26:17PM >>VIK BHIDE: NORTH ON SWANN.
03:26:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHERE IT ON THE MAP.
03:26:21PM >>VIK BHIDE: NORTH ON SWANN.
03:26:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: OFF OF THE PICTURE.
03:26:24PM MOST IS OFF THE PICTURE, ISN'T IT?
03:26:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:26:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: REASONABLY, IS IT NOT TRUE AND UNTIL NOW IN
03:26:32PM PRIMARY COMMUNICATION, NOBODY MENTIONED PALMA CEIA PINES
03:26:36PM UNTIL THE LAST FEW DAYS SINCE THIS STORM.
03:26:39PM WHERE ARE THE PIPES THAT GO UP TO PALMA CEIA.
03:26:42PM >> AUDUBON, EXISTING PIPES.
03:26:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: NEW PIPES.
03:26:47PM YOUR DEPARTMENT TOLD PALMA CEIA PINES THIS WILL SOLVES THEIR
03:26:51PM PROBLEM.
03:26:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:26:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND -- BUT I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE
03:26:56PM ARE THE PIPES THAT GO IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:26:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: THEY COME FROM AUDUBON TO THE AMI POND INTO
03:27:02PM PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:27:03PM AGAIN A FUNCTION OF DESIGN.
03:27:05PM THIS PROJECT -- THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF PROJECT IS
03:27:10PM FOR THE WATER SHED.
03:27:11PM THIS IS -- THIS IS BASED --
03:27:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, BUT
03:27:17PM THE REALITY -- THE REALITY IS THAT PALMA CEIA PINES GOT
03:27:20PM FLOODED AND FOR THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE PROMOTING AND TELLING
03:27:24PM EVERYBODY THAT PALMA CEIA PINES WILL BE PROTECTED AND
03:27:27PM APPEARS FROM EVERY INDICATION THAT IT IS NOT.
03:27:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: CAN I ASK WHAT INDICATION?
03:27:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD BE ON THE MAP.
03:27:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: THIS IS BASED ON THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING
03:27:44PM STUDY AND SHOWS PALMA CEIA PINES IN THE WATER SHED.
03:27:47PM THIS PROJECT IMPACTS THE WATER SHED.
03:27:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I GIVE YOU ANOTHER MAP?
03:28:00PM THANK YOU.
03:28:00PM SORRY TO MAKE YOU HAND OUT THESE FLYERS.
03:28:03PM WE HAVE ISSUES GOING IN TEN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN SOUTH
03:28:15PM COMPANY AND I AM MEETING WITH THEM SEPARATELY AND WE ARE
03:28:19PM GETTING SLANDEROUS E-MAILS AND I WANT TO SET THE RECORD
03:28:24PM STRAIGHT.
03:28:24PM IF SOMEBODY PRESENTS EVIDENCE THAT SOMETHING I HAVE SAID OR
03:28:27PM BELIEVED IS WRONG, I WILL CHANGE MY MIND.
03:28:29PM BUT I DON'T LIKE BEING CALLED A LIAR AND I DON'T LIKE BEING
03:28:37PM ACCUSED OF APPROVING SOMETHING TEN YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS NOT
03:28:41PM ON COUNCIL.
03:28:41PM CAN YOU SHOW US WHAT THIS MAP SHOW AS SOON AS.
03:28:45PM >>VIK BHIDE: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MAP SHOWS AND I DON'T
03:28:46PM KNOW IF THIS IS IN THE FINAL REPORT OR NOT.
03:28:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS COMES FROM PUBLIC RECORDS THAT WEREN'T
03:28:52PM MADE PUBLIC BUT THE LIGHT BLUE SHOW THE 100-YEAR 24-HOUR
03:28:58PM 5.5-INCH FLOODING.
03:28:59PM WE HIT MORE THAN 100 YEAR FLOODING.
03:29:05PM AND AFTER THIS IS COMPLETED LIGHT BLUE IS FLOODED IN THIS
03:29:11PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:29:11PM AND A REPORT THAT GOES WITH THIS.
03:29:15PM >> MAY I CLARIFY.
03:29:17PM >> WHAT IT SHOWS, AFTER ALL THIS IS SPENT.
03:29:22PM BETWEEN NOW AND FOUR YEARS, IT IS ALSO GOING TO FLOOD.
03:29:25PM >> IF THIS MAP IS IN THE FINAL GMT REPORT AND PART OF THAT
03:29:31PM TOCK ULTIMATE IN THE STUDY DONE AS PART --
03:29:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SEE THE CONCERN.
03:29:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS THE DOCUMENT THAT GUIDES OUR DECISIONS
03:29:45PM GOING FORWARD.
03:29:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE WE HAD ANY 100-YEAR STORMS LATELY?
03:29:50PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:29:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT WAS THE MOST WE HAD IN A 24-HOUR PERIOD
03:29:53PM IN THE LAST YEAR.
03:29:56PM >>VIK BHIDE: 300-YEAR STORM WITH HURRICANE MILTON.
03:30:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MANY INCHES.
03:30:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: 11 AND A HALF TO 15.
03:30:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:30:10PM IS THIS SHOWS 5.5 INCHES AND YOU SAID 11.5?
03:30:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: I CAN'T ATTEST TO THIS MAP.
03:30:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SEE THE CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE
03:30:20PM DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO
03:30:22PM WORK.
03:30:22PM THIS IS ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS INTERNALLY.
03:30:25PM >>VIK BHIDE: LET ME CLARIFYING.
03:30:30PM NO DESIGN FOR HURRICANES.
03:30:31PM BUT YOU CAN DESIGN THE BEST POSSIBLE SYSTEM WITHIN THE
03:30:34PM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AVAILABLE RESOURCES THAT YOU CAN.
03:30:36PM THAT IS OUR EFFORT.
03:30:38PM IF WE DESIGN FOR HURRICANE CITYWIDE, I DON'T ANY WE
03:30:43PM WILL EVER BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THE RESOURCES.
03:30:47PM NOT A GOOD REASON NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WELL THOUGHT OF
03:30:50PM AND WELL ENGINEERED PROBLEMS IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
03:30:54PM >> ALL I HAVE BEEN ASKING AND ALL THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING
03:30:57PM FOR SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD AND I WILL GET TO THAT IN A
03:31:00PM SECOND.
03:31:00PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT TO SEPARATE DESIGN AND BUILD.
03:31:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE OTHER ALLEGATIONS WE HAD IS THAT
03:31:06PM THERE HAS BEEN LOTS OF PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS.
03:31:10PM THIS IS A PRINTOUT OF THE WEBSITE.
03:31:12PM STAND HAS BEEN POINTED OUT TO ME THAT, LOOK, ON THE WEB SITE
03:31:18PM SHOWS PUBLIC MEETINGS.
03:31:19PM YES, PUBLIC MEETINGS AND NOTICE OF THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
03:31:23PM BUT WHY IS IT ON OCTOBER 17, 2023, WHEN I HAD A MEETING WITH
03:31:28PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FROM FIVE NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT
03:31:31PM NOBODY EXCEPT FOR MR. ADAMS KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS
03:31:35PM PROJECT, IF PUBLIC MEETINGS HAD HAPPENED.
03:31:36PM WHAT PUBLIC MEETINGS HAPPENED BEFORE THE ROUTE WAS CHOSEN
03:31:40PM AND WHO WAS INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC MEETING?
03:31:42PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE I HAVE A
03:31:44PM DOCUMENT THAT TALKS OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
03:31:47PM IF YOU GIVE ME ABOUT FIVE MINUTES --
03:31:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T NEED FIVE MINUTES.
03:31:51PM SOMEBODY ELSE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
03:31:54PM CAN YOU TELL ME WERE THERE PUBLIC MEETINGS BEFORE THE ROUTE
03:31:57PM WAS CHOSEN?
03:31:59PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE ROUTE IS STILL NOT CHOSEN.
03:32:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO DOCUMENTS --
03:32:03PM >>VIK BHIDE: A FUNCTION OF DESIGN.
03:32:04PM AND DESIGN HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET.
03:32:06PM COUNCIL APPROVES DESIGN.
03:32:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE FROM THE PUBLIC
03:32:12PM ENGAGEMENT PERSON.
03:32:13PM A NOTE TO YOU AND AN E-MAIL THAT SAYS WE NEED TO BE SURE AT
03:32:17PM THE PUBLIC MEETING TONIGHT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT BRISTOL HAS
03:32:21PM ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN AND THE ROUTE IS SET.
03:32:23PM I HAVE ALSO GOT ANOTHER DOCUMENT THAT -- THAT IS FROM
03:32:29PM SOMEONE ATKINS REALIS AND SAYS CITY ANTICIPATES THAT NO
03:32:34PM FURTHER ROUTE ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED.
03:32:36PM AND I -- I AM TOLD THERE ARE OTHER DOCUMENTS AS WELL.
03:32:39PM WHY IS IT THAT SUDDENLY WE ARE SAYING THAT THE ROUTE IS NOT
03:32:42PM SET WHEN THERE ARE LOTS OF DOCUMENTS THAT SAY THE ROUTE HAS
03:32:46PM BEEN SET.
03:32:48PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAVE NEVER SAID OTHERWISE.
03:32:50PM COMMUNICATIONS INTERNALLY ARE ONE THING.
03:32:52PM WHAT WE SHARE PUBLICLY AND WITH THE PUBLIC AT THESE FORUMS
03:32:57PM AND AT PUBLIC MEETINGS IS WHAT COUNTS.
03:33:00PM I'M HERE TELLING YOU WE HAVEN'T SELECTED A ROUTE.
03:33:03PM WE HAVE GOING TO BRING YOU A DESIGN TASK THAT SELECTS THE
03:33:07PM ROUTE.
03:33:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SEE THE CONCERN --
03:33:09PM >>VIK BHIDE: THERE IS NO DESIGN YET.
03:33:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEHOW THE CITY BELIEVES THAT PUBLIC INPUT
03:33:14PM IS TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE ROUTE ALREADY SELECTED.
03:33:17PM UNTIL TODAY, NO OTHER DISCUSSION OF OTHER ROUTES.
03:33:20PM THIS ROUTE EVERYBODY SAYING WHY IS THE ROUTE ON HOWARD MAD.
03:33:25PM >>VIK BHIDE: A DISCUSSION OF OVER 19 ROUTES.
03:33:27PM WHAT I AM TELLING YOU TODAY IS THAT THE ROUTE SELECTION IS
03:33:31PM PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
03:33:33PM IT BEGINS WITH THE DESIGN.
03:33:35PM THE PLANNING STAGE WAS THE PLANNING STAGE.
03:33:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHY CAN'T WE NOT -- THE PROBLEM WITH
03:33:44PM DESIGN-BUILD, THESE PROJECTS GO MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER
03:33:47PM BUDGET.
03:33:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS NOT TRUE.
03:33:48PM NOT TRUE.
03:33:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T THINK HANNA AVENUE --
03:33:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: I WILL OFFER YOU THIS.
03:33:54PM EVERY MAYOR PROJECT, BE IT THEA, BE IT F DOT, THE COUNTY,
03:34:00PM THE CITY PREFERS PROGRESSIVE DESIGN BUILDS FOR REASONS I
03:34:03PM STATED.
03:34:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY THING I AM ASKING FOR IS I AM NOT
03:34:07PM DISPUTING THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
03:34:08PM I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO
03:34:12PM SOMETHING BEFORE FOUR YEARS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS HERE NEED
03:34:15PM SOME KIND OF RELIEF BEFORE FOUR YEARS.
03:34:19PM >> I WISH THERE WAS A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION POSSIBLE.
03:34:22PM >> IN PALMA CEIA PINES UNDERNEATH THIS DOCTOR'S OFFICE,
03:34:27PM SOMEBODY DOESN'T NEED TO DREDGE THAT RETENTION POND THERE.
03:34:30PM WHAT THE CANALS IN PALMA CEIA PINES IT LOOKS LIKE THESE --
03:34:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: I ALSO HEARD EARLIER THAT THE REPORT SPOKE OF
03:34:42PM PROFILING ROADWAYS.
03:34:43PM RIGHT BEFORE THIS STORM, WE HAD NOTICED ALL OF THE COMMUNITY
03:34:46PM MEMBERS NORTH OF SWANN THAT WERE GOING TO DO RESURFACING.
03:34:50PM WE ARE GOING TO DO RESURFACING THERE.
03:34:53PM AND WE HAD THE STORMS.
03:34:54PM PART OF THE RESURFACING WILL BE REPROFILING THE ROADS AND
03:34:58PM ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT WERE DECIDED IN THE JMT REPORT.
03:35:02PM PART OF OUR EARLY WORKS IS THE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:35:05PM THAT IS WHY WE HAVE A WHOLE EARLY WORKS PHASE THAT INCLUDES
03:35:08PM MOVING UTILITIES.
03:35:10PM REPAVING ROADWAYS THAT WILL BE D.O.T. ROUTES AS THAT PROJECT
03:35:15PM MOVES FORWARD.
03:35:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT -- WHY CAN'T WE SEPARATE DESIGN AND
03:35:21PM PUBLIC INPUT FROM BUILD?
03:35:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT WILL DELAY THE PROJECT BY 24 MONTHS.
03:35:27PM POTENTIALLY COST MORE --
03:35:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
03:35:30PM >>VIK BHIDE: I SHARED THE REASON WHY SINCE YOU ASKED ME.
03:35:33PM FIRST, IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO HIRE A CONSULTANT.
03:35:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM NOT TALKING OF HIRING A DIFFERENT
03:35:39PM CONSULTANT.
03:35:40PM I AM TALKING ABOUT HOLDING A FINAL POINT WHERE YOU SAY TO
03:35:43PM CONTINUE THE EXISTING PROJECT.
03:35:45PM CALL IT DESIGN-BUILD IF YOU WANT, BUT TO CONTINUE THE--
03:35:50PM >>VIK BHIDE: LET'S CALL THIS DESIGN-BUILD.
03:35:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION IN THE NEXT -- I WILL
03:35:55PM MAKE A MOTION -- TO GET RID OF ALL DESIGN-BUILD BECAUSE THEY
03:36:00PM WASTE MONEY --
03:36:02PM >>VIK BHIDE: A PRESCRIPTIVE SOLUTION THAT WE DON'T HAVE
03:36:05PM EVIDENCE --
03:36:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE THEY
03:36:09PM CUT ME OFF.
03:36:09PM AND WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING THAT
03:36:13PM MENTIONED THAT -- TO ME IN AN MEAL THAT HE HAD WASTEWATER IN
03:36:18PM HIS HOUSE.
03:36:18PM AND I SENT HIM AN E-MAIL BACK AND SAID THE WASTEWATER PEOPLE
03:36:22PM TELL ME THAT THERE WAS NOT A WASTEWATER LEAK.
03:36:26PM IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE OF IT, LET ME KNOW.
03:36:28PM HE TOOK OFFENSE TO THAT.
03:36:29PM I APOLOGIZED TO HIM IN THE HALLWAY.
03:36:33PM I SAID IF YOU HAVE EVIDENCE, LET US KNOW.
03:36:35PM HE SAID EVERYTHING THAT HAD WASTEWATER IS GONE.
03:36:39PM I DON'T HAVE PROOF OF IT.
03:36:41PM I KNOW WASTEWATER IS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT DO YOU HAVE
03:36:44PM EVIDENCE THAT WASTEWATER LEAKED INTO THAT AREA.
03:36:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: AFTER STORMS, WE HAVE STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER
03:36:51PM LEAKS, ESPECIALLY IF THERE ARE POWER OUTAGES.
03:36:53PM HE CAN'T GO INTO SPECIFICS BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE IT IS NOT MY
03:36:56PM DEPARTMENT.
03:36:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, MIRANDA AND VIERA.
03:37:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:37:03PM THIS IS MY MOTION AND I WANTED TO GET AN UPDATE OF HOW FAR
03:37:06PM THINGS ARE GOING.
03:37:07PM I'M COMING AT IT FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
03:37:12PM I WAS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND
03:37:15PM SORRY, NOBODY ELSE HAD A TIMER AND I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR.
03:37:19PM I WAS ON THE BOARD OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BEFORE I JOINED
03:37:23PM COUNCIL AND HAD THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER
03:37:27PM IMPROVEMENT START.
03:37:28PM I WILL APOLOGIZE RIGHT NOW IT WAS A SHIT SHOW.
03:37:32PM EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, BUT THAT'S IT WHAT IT WAS.
03:37:35PM IT WAS FROM THE BEGINNING, AND -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
03:37:44PM THE WORST PART OF IT WAS WE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE DESIGN.
03:37:48PM AND MISS SHARFE.
03:37:52PM I WILL ASK YOU TO SHOW THAT MAP.
03:37:53PM SO THE DESIGN THAT WAS CHOSEN WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY INPUT --
03:37:59PM AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THE LITTLE GREEN THINGS
03:38:03PM SAYS IGNACIO.
03:38:04PM THAT IS CREST AVENUE.
03:38:06PM THAT IS JUST A STREET OF HOMES.
03:38:08PM JUST IT.
03:38:09PM NOTHING -- NOTHING PARTICULARLY DIFFERENT FROM IT FROM THE
03:38:13PM STREET ABOVE IT OR THE STREET BELOW IT.
03:38:14PM WHY WAS IT CHOSEN?
03:38:17PM HONESTLY, IT -- IT COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER AREAS.
03:38:20PM IT COULD HAVE BEEN OTHER STREETS.
03:38:22PM AND WE AS A COMMUNITY WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS.
03:38:26PM THE CITY HAS LEARNED FROM THAT BUT I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS
03:38:31PM STREET, THIS LOVELY LITTLE STREET, A YEAR ONE FULL YEAR THAT
03:38:37PM PEOPLE COULD NOT ACCESS THEIR HOMES WITH A CAR.
03:38:40PM DIRT STREETS.
03:38:41PM DIRT EVERYWHERE.
03:38:42PM PEOPLE HAD TO PARK ON THE RIVER AND WALK IN THE HOME.
03:38:47PM PARK ON NEIGHBORS' YARDS.
03:38:50PM THE ENTIRE STREET WAS CLOSED.
03:38:53PM TO GIVE YOU A PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT WAS PUT IN THERE,
03:39:00PM HIS SHARFE IS ABOUT -- I AM FIVE FOOT.
03:39:03PM >> I'M TALLER THAN THAT, BY THE WAY.
03:39:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE IS TALLER THAN ME.
03:39:07PM BUT IF YOU PUT ANOTHER OF HER ON TOP AND IF BUT PUT HER SIDE
03:39:11PM TO SIDE, TEN FOOT BY TEN FOOT CULVERTS ARE WHAT WENT ON THAT
03:39:17PM STREET.
03:39:17PM WHAT WENT ON CREST AVENUE.
03:39:19PM I MEAN, WE ARE TALKING HUGE -- HUGE THINGS.
03:39:24PM A LOT OF TRAUMA.
03:39:25PM WE HAD WATER -- WE HAD ALSO INCLUDING THE STORMWATER VAULTS.
03:39:32PM WATER OFTEN BOTH SIDE AND WASTEWATER ON BOTH SIDES BECAUSE
03:39:36PM THEY COULDN'T CONNECT BECAUSE OF THE GIANTNESS OF THESE
03:39:40PM CULVERTS.
03:39:40PM THE INSULT TO INJURY ON PEOPLE ON CREST BECAUSE -- BECAUSE
03:39:47PM THERE WASN'T THE INFORMATION SHARED AHEAD OF TIME.
03:39:50PM CREST NEVER FLOODS.
03:39:51PM A STREET THAT AUTOMATICALLY ANGLES TO THE RIVER AND DOUBLY
03:39:55PM ANGRY BECAUSE THEIR STREET NEVER FLOODED AND NEVER TOLD OF
03:39:58PM IT.
03:39:58PM IT WAS A LOT OF DRAMA.
03:40:00PM BUT I WILL TELL YOU IN THIS STORM, IN MILTON, SOUTHEAST
03:40:07PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:40:08PM THIS IS THE RIVER.
03:40:09PM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
03:40:12PM INTERSTATE CONSIDERABLY.
03:40:14PM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF NEBRASKA.
03:40:15PM THAT WAS THE ACTUAL TARGET OF THE FLOODING.
03:40:20PM AND FROM THE BEGINNING -- NOWHERE IN THAT AREA FLOODED THE
03:40:24PM WAY THAT IT HAD BEFORE INCREMENTALLY IT GETS BETTER.
03:40:33PM SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THE SECOND DEGREE.
03:40:40PM IDEA AND CAN'T WORK AND HERE IS WHY.
03:40:43PM SAY THE -- WE DIVIDED INTO PARKLAND ESTATE ELECTION GETS
03:40:49PM FIRST.
03:40:49PM WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THAT WATER?
03:40:51PM SO WE HAVE TO GO BACKWARDS.
03:40:53PM BUT YOU HAVE OPTIONS.
03:40:55PM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT THE
03:40:58PM NEIGHBORHOOD CAN TALK ABOUT.
03:40:58PM SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP BEING DONE IN 100 DAYS, THAT IS BECAUSE
03:41:09PM 24-7.
03:41:10PM IT WAS PLANNED OUT 247.
03:41:13PM FOLKS WORKING EVERY MINUTE OF EVERY DAY.
03:41:15PM COULD WE DO THAT?
03:41:17PM YEAH, WE COULD WE COULD.
03:41:21PM BUT THAT MEANS THAT MEANS THE NEIGHBORS NOT SLEEPING.
03:41:26PM I MEAN THERE ARE OPTIONS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS POSSIBLE.
03:41:30PM SO THE WORLD IT YOUR OYSTER.
03:41:33PM Y'ALL CAN DECIDE THAT.
03:41:34PM THAT IS NOT OUR DECISION.
03:41:36PM THAT WILL BE THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE DESIGN AND THE
03:41:41PM CONTRACTORS, THAT IS NOT OUR DECISION.
03:41:43PM SADLY SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER CLOSED FOUR LANES OF
03:41:55PM FLORIDA AVENUE FOR OVER THREE WEEKS.
03:41:57PM FOUR LANES.
03:41:58PM I WILL TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW.
03:41:59PM THAT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE STILL DON'T HAVE PAVEMENT
03:42:03PM ON THAT BECAUSE WE ARE STILL FIGHTING WITH FDOT HOW THE
03:42:06PM INLETS ARE SUPPOSED TO LOOK.
03:42:08PM STILL FIGHTING.
03:42:09PM BUT -- AND IT WAS -- IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE -- IT WAS AWFUL.
03:42:14PM ABSOLUTELY AWFUL.
03:42:16PM WE DID WHAT WE COULD TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AROUND IT AND ALL WE
03:42:20PM COULD DO.
03:42:21PM YOU AS NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IMPACT READY GOING
03:42:23PM TO HAVE TO HAVE THAT ZENNESS OF -- THIS IS AWFUL BUT IT IS
03:42:28PM GOING TO PASS.
03:42:29PM THIS IS A AWFUL AND IT IS GOING TO PASS.
03:42:32PM I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFLINE ABOUT
03:42:35PM THAT.
03:42:35PM BUT WE LEARNED -- THE PROJECT GOT SO BAD THAT WE HAD TO HAVE
03:42:41PM THE CONTRACTOR COME EVERY TWO WEEKS TO COUNCIL -- EVERY TWO
03:42:46PM WEEKS AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
03:42:48PM IT GOT THAT BAD.
03:42:49PM WE -- I DID -- COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND I DID BOTH DID
03:42:55PM TOURS EVERY OTHER MONTH.
03:42:56PM WE WENT OUT AND GOT A FULL TOUR FROM X TO Z.
03:43:01PM I MEAN EVERYTHING.
03:43:02PM SO DEFINITE WAYS THAT COUNCIL AND THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT
03:43:08PM YOU CAN MONITOR AND ASSIST.
03:43:10PM BUT WE HAVE LEARNED A LOT FROM THIS PROJECT.
03:43:13PM I AM -- THE ONLY THING -- THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO
03:43:19PM ADD IS WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- AND I DON'T DISAGREE.
03:43:22PM I THINK WE -- WHEN EVERYBODY LOOKS AND SEES WHAT THE BEST
03:43:27PM ROUTE IS, I HATE TO SAY THAT THINGS UNDER GROUND MATTER, BUT
03:43:35PM WE OPENED A SMALL SECTION OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND HANNA WHICH
03:43:40PM IS A BIG INTERSECTION IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BECAUSE HANNA IS
03:43:43PM THE ONLY STREET THAT GOES UNDER THE INTERSTATE.
03:43:48PM HOW PEOPLE GOES TO PUBLIC LICKS.
03:43:50PM NO GROCERY STORE ON THE CEASE SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE -- ON
03:43:53PM THE WEST SIDE, PARDON.
03:43:55PM WHEN THAT WAS CLOSED, IT WAS CLOSED FOR ALMOST TWO MONTHS
03:44:00PM BECAUSE ONCE THEY OPENED IT, AND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL
03:44:06PM THERE.
03:44:06PM THEY HAD TO TIME IT IN THE SUMMER.
03:44:08PM IT HAD TO BE DONE BEFORE SCHOOL STARTED.
03:44:10PM WHEN WE OPENED IT, THEY FOUND SO MUCH.
03:44:13PM THEY WEREN'T PLANNING ON FINDING.
03:44:14PM IN TERMS OF ADDITION TO UTILITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S
03:44:20PM POWER WENT OUT.
03:44:21PM NOT POWER, BUT PEOPLE LOST THEIR INTERNET MULTIPLE TEAMS.
03:44:25PM THERE WAS A LOT THAT WE WERE GOING THROUGH THERE.
03:44:27PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE DONE THIS.
03:44:29PM WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS.
03:44:30PM IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO.
03:44:34PM AND I -- I BELIEVE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE BUSINESSES,
03:44:38PM AND THE CONTRACTORS CAN ALL FIND A WAY TO COME TOGETHER AND
03:44:42PM MAKE IT WORK, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO INCLUDE US.
03:44:45PM I WILL ALSO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THE CITY
03:44:53PM LEARNED BEST WAS HOW TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS.
03:44:56PM TOURING THE CLOSURE ON FLORIDA AVENUE, THAT WAS -- THAT WAS
03:44:59PM IN FRONT OF THE INDEPENDENT.
03:45:01PM THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THE -- MAJOR -- MAJOR RESTAURANTS.
03:45:08PM YOU KNOW WHAT WE DID, WE DID A CAMPAIGN OF THE CITY.
03:45:10PM THE MAYOR CAME OUT.
03:45:12PM I CAME OUT.
03:45:13PM WE WERE DOING PHOTOS OF US EATING AND VISITING THE
03:45:19PM ESTABLISHMENTS.
03:45:20PM ENCOURAGING THE NEIGHBORS.
03:45:21PM BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORS LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD ESTABLISHMENTS
03:45:24PM WE ALL MET.
03:45:26PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE HAD TWO MEETINGS THERE.
03:45:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT GOING TO BE AWESOME.
03:45:32PM NOT GOING TO BE GREAT.
03:45:33PM PARTS THAT ARE AWFUL AND KNOW THAT.
03:45:36PM KNOW THAT IT IS GOING TO BE BAD.
03:45:38PM IT IS GOING TO BE BAD.
03:45:39PM AND THEN BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WHEN IT IS NOT AS BAD AS
03:45:43PM YOU THINK IT IS.
03:45:44PM AND THAT IS REALLY -- THAT IS WHAT I THINK THE SOUTHEAST
03:45:47PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER WAS A VERY GOOD LESSON FOR HOW
03:45:52PM WE GO FORWARD.
03:45:52PM AND BECAUSE OF ALL THE INTERACTION THAT COUNCIL HAD TO HAVE,
03:45:57PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS HAD TO HAVE, THAT -- THAT --
03:46:01PM THAT PROJECTS GOING FORWARD CAN AND WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE
03:46:05PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEMAND ANYTHING LESS.
03:46:07PM I AM SORRY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS.
03:46:11PM THANK YOU.
03:46:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT COUNCILWOMAN, BECAUSE
03:46:15PM WE HAVE LEARNED FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
03:46:19PM SPECIFICALLY.
03:46:19PM AND THE PHASING PLAN WE INITIALLY PROPOSED AND IS STILL
03:46:23PM AVAILABLE, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT IS A COMMUNITY PRIORITIES
03:46:28PM CONVERSATION IS TO MITIGATE THESE LONG RUNS OF CLOSURE AT
03:46:32PM ANY GIVEN TIME.
03:46:33PM AND THE TO KIND OF SPREAD IT OVER TIME AND ALLOW THE
03:46:37PM CONTRACTOR TO EXERCISE INNOVATIVE MEANS AND METHODS.
03:46:42PM FOR THAT, KIMMINS -- THEY HAVE DONE GREAT WORK URBAN
03:46:46PM ENVIRONMENTS IN TAMPA.
03:46:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T MENTION THE CONTRACTOR BUT I WILL
03:46:51PM SAY IT WASN'T KIMMINS.
03:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REAL
03:46:56PM QUICK REGARDING SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:46:57PM I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I GOT THE BULK OF ENDLESS
03:47:02PM COMPLAINTS.
03:47:02PM WE DID THE TOURS.
03:47:03PM PERSON WHO TOOK ME ON THE TOUR ENDED UP GOING SOMEWHERE
03:47:07PM ELSE.
03:47:07PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STORY WAS.
03:47:09PM BUT IT WAS MISERABLE.
03:47:10PM CREST WAS MISERABLE.
03:47:12PM FLORIDA WAS IN MISERABLE.
03:47:14PM SOME BUSINESSES WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.
03:47:16PM NOT EVERYBODY SURVIVES IT.
03:47:17PM LATER WHEN IT IS MY TURN TO TALK, I HAVE PHOTOS THAT I TOOK
03:47:22PM BACK IN 2019 THE ESTRELLA, WESTSHORE, HENDERSON, DALE MABRY
03:47:29PM PROJECT AND PEOPLE CAN SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF IT.
03:47:31PM ONE THING OF SEEING A SKETCH ON ROAD CLOSURES, BUT I WILL
03:47:36PM SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
03:47:37PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND VIERA.
03:47:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM IN ALL THE CONVERSATION.
03:47:41PM I HAVE GROWN TOILET TO TAP, HURRICANES, TWO AND A HALF
03:47:45PM DEGREES WARMER IN THE GULF WHICH IS TRUE AND TOILET TO TAP
03:47:49PM THAT I KNOW OF NEVER KILLED ANYONE.
03:47:51PM IF YOU WANT TO CHALLENGE FROM LAKE LANIER, TO SACRAMENTO,
03:47:56PM THEY ALL USE TOILET TO TAP.
03:47:59PM ENVIRONMENTALISTS WANT IT THERE.
03:48:02PM ENVIRONMENTALISTS HERE DO NOT WANT.
03:48:04PM SO BE IT.
03:48:06PM NOT ONE LIVING MICROBE AS MUCH IN TOILET TO TAP AND IS
03:48:12PM CLEANED UP.
03:48:13PM HOWEVER, WE ARE TALKING OF THE DEVASTATION OF YOUR
03:48:15PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:48:15PM DEVASTATION OF HALF OF THIS CITY.
03:48:17PM WASN'T JUST YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU
03:48:21PM GO TO DAVIS ISLAND.
03:48:22PM YOU GO TO PALMETTO BEACH.
03:48:24PM YOU GO TO RIVERSIDE EAST -- WEST OF THE RIVER AND WEST
03:48:28PM TAMPA, ALL THOSE HOUSES, EVERY ONE OF THEM IS FLOODED.
03:48:33PM HALF A BLOCK IN.
03:48:34PM NOT ONE FLOODED.
03:48:35PM SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS SOMETHING THAT WORKS SOMEWHERE
03:48:39PM BETTER THAN OTHERS.
03:48:40PM I THINK YOU ARE -- I THINK YOUR PRESENTATION HITS IT RIGHT
03:48:42PM ON THE HEAD.
03:48:43PM AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON THIS BECAUSE THERE IS NO EXPERT
03:48:47PM FROM THIS COUNCIL.
03:48:47PM NONE OF US HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS.
03:48:49PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IT, CLEVELAND AVENUE, WHEN YOU TALK OF
03:48:53PM GRADING.
03:48:53PM YOU AND I WENT TO SEE SOMETHING A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
03:48:56PM AND WE STOPPED AND LOOKED AT IT.
03:48:58PM AND THE ROAD IS ABOUT FOUR INCHES HIGHER THAN THE SIDEWALK.
03:49:04PM SO WHAT DO YOU THINK FLOODS?
03:49:05PM THE HOUSES DON'T FLOOD, BUT THE GARAGES FLOOD.
03:49:08PM IN NORMAL RAIN STORMS.
03:49:10PM BUT WE -- THAT IS SO SMALL WE DON'T LOOK AT THAT.
03:49:13PM WE ARE LOOKING AT FIXING THE PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW IN THE CITY
03:49:16PM PERIOD.
03:49:16PM I DON'T WANT TO TALK OF POLITICS AND THE FREEMAN
03:49:20PM ADMINISTRATION AND THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION.
03:49:22PM I DON'T WANT TO TALK OF ANY ADMINISTRATION, THE IORIO
03:49:26PM ADMINISTRATION.
03:49:26PM BILL POE'S ADMINISTRATION.
03:49:28PM I WORKED WITH FIVE MAYORS ALL DIFFERENT AND ALL THE SAME.
03:49:31PM THEY WANTED TO MAKE THE CITIES BETTER THAN THEY FOUND IT.
03:49:34PM PERMITS WERE DIFFERENT.
03:49:36PM THE WAY THEY COMMUNICATED WAS DIFFERENT.
03:49:37PM NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
03:49:38PM OTHER THAN THAT, YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF THE SYSTEM THAT YOU
03:49:43PM ARE FOR.
03:49:43PM AND YOU ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB MAKING THE PRESENTATION.
03:49:46PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON, THE CITY OF
03:49:51PM TAMPA, GUESS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THAT STORM WOULD
03:49:54PM HAVE STAYED A LITTLE NORTH LIKE 15 -- WE WOULDN'T BE TALKING
03:49:58PM HERE TODAY.
03:49:58PM NONE OF US WILL BE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE THE WHOLE CITY WOULD
03:50:01PM HAVE BEEN FLOOD IF I SAW WHAT HAPPENED.
03:50:04PM AND HAPPENED IN THE WHOLE CITY.
03:50:05PM NO MATTER WHAT SYSTEM YOU HAVE AT ONE TIME.
03:50:07PM THIS IS AN ANOMALY.
03:50:09PM SIX OR SEVEN STORMS HAVE FORMED IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IN MY
03:50:12PM LIFETIME.
03:50:13PM I ONLY SEEN TWO OR THREE HE YEAR, NOT SIX OR SEVEN.
03:50:16PM AND IT IS NOW TWO AND A HALF DEGREES WARMER THEN IT WAS LAST
03:50:23PM YEAR AND NOT GOING TO GET ANY COOLER.
03:50:25PM WE HAVE ABUSED NATURE FOR MANY YEARS AND NATURE CAN'T TAKE
03:50:28PM IT ANYMORE AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING.
03:50:32PM HOWEVER, YOU CAN PUT SOLAR AND TAKE YOUR GRASS OFF AND PUT
03:50:36PM ROCKS.
03:50:36PM LET THE WATER GO THROUGH AND COMES BACK WHERE WE CAME FROM.
03:50:39PM DRINKING THE SAME WATER AS THREE AND A HALF MILLION YEARS
03:50:43PM AGO.
03:50:43PM SAME WATER.
03:50:44PM HOWEVER, LET ME -- LET ME GO BACK TO TOILET TO TAP.
03:50:49PM A LITTLE CITY EAST OF US THAT ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB BUT
03:50:52PM POURING MILLION GALLONS OF TREATED WATER -- GUESS WHAT
03:50:56PM WHERE?
03:50:56PM IN THE GREEN SWAMP.
03:50:57PM AND GUESS WHERE THE WATER COMES FROM?
03:51:00PM THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, THE GREEN SWAMP.
03:51:02PM NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME?
03:51:07PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CORRECT.
03:51:09PM IF I COULD GIVE YOU A SHORT ANSWER I WILL FIX IT NOW SO YOU
03:51:15PM CAN HAVE PEACE OF MIND FOR YEARS, SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER,
03:51:18PM BECAUSE WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH NO HUMAN BEING HAS GONE
03:51:22PM THROUGH IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT I
03:51:25PM NAMED ALL OVER THE CITY.
03:51:26PM SOMETHING THAT HAS HAPPENED THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN IN MY 30
03:51:28PM YEARS OF PUBLIC SERVICE, NEVER.
03:51:30PM AND IT IS BECAUSE NATURE CAN'T TAKE IT NO MORE.
03:51:35PM THAT IS WHAT IT COMES TO.
03:51:37PM I AM NOT FORMING EXCUSES, BUT TRYING TO FORM A RESOLUTION.
03:51:41PM NOT A TEMPORARY ONE, BECAUSE THAT TEMPORARY ONE WILL NOT
03:51:48PM WORK FOR WHAT IS COMING.
03:51:49PM I AGREE.
03:51:50PM HELP OUT.
03:51:51PM THIS GENTLEMAN THAT SAID ALL THE FACTS TODAY.
03:51:55PM HE -- HE IS A PROFESSIONAL OF PROFESSIONALS.
03:51:59PM AND NECESSARY NOT HERE TO BS MEAN AND I AM NOT TALKING OF
03:52:03PM BARBARA STREISAND.
03:52:05PM I AM TELLING IT JUST LIKE IT IS.
03:52:06PM I NEVER KNOWN HIM TO TELL ME A MISNOMER THERE IS NOT
03:52:12PM FACTUAL.
03:52:13PM TELLS ME YES, NO AND THE REASON WHY.
03:52:16PM AND THAT'S WHAT HE ASKED AND WHAT HE IS DOING.
03:52:18PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE SAID AND DONE.
03:52:20PM I WANT MO TO MARCH FORWARD.
03:52:22PM I WANT TO SAVE NOT ONLY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
03:52:25PM SAVE ONE, YOU SAVE THREE OR FOUR IN THE SAME LINE THAT IS
03:52:29PM NEEDED.
03:52:29PM WHEN UP SAVE THOSE, THE WATER CAN GO AND RUN OFF SOMEWHERE.
03:52:32PM A CATASTROPHE THAT HAPPENED.
03:52:35PM I WISH I HAD AN ANSWER AS TO WHY, I DON'T.
03:52:38PM THANK YOU MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
03:52:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
03:52:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, HENDERSON AND THEN I
03:52:44PM WILL WRAP IT UP.
03:52:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
03:52:47PM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOUR BACK AND FORTH
03:52:51PM IN BHIDE.
03:52:53PM I THINK THIS IS PRETTY SIMPLE ON THIS PROJECT.
03:52:56PM I PROBABLY STARTED TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT IT MARCH, APRIL
03:53:00PM OF THIS YEAR.
03:53:01PM IF I HAD TO GUESS APRIL.
03:53:03PM MILTON IS A GAME CHANGER OF HOW I SEE THIS PROJECT.
03:53:07PM WE KNOW THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN SOONER OR
03:53:10PM LATER.
03:53:11PM THE WAY I SEE IT, STAFF IS PUSHING TO MAKE IT SOONER.
03:53:14PM AND THAT HAS A RATIONALE BASIS.
03:53:16PM MORE OF A RATIONALE BASIS.
03:53:18PM WHEN I TALKED TO FOLKS HERE WHO WERE AFFECTED, I -- I HAVE
03:53:23PM MANY FEELINGS, BUT -- BUT ESPECIALLY OF PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:53:27PM ONE OF MY BIGGEST FEELINGS IS, THERE IS A PLAN THAT CAN --
03:53:30PM WE ARE TOLD BY STAFF WHICH WE RELIED UPON THAT CAN ADDRESS
03:53:34PM THESE CHALLENGES.
03:53:35PM WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
03:53:37PM RIGHT.
03:53:39PM AND NOT DOING SO AND IN EFFECT, TELLING THESE FOLKS THAT WE
03:53:43PM WILL WAIT MORE AND MORE TIME TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS TO
03:53:47PM ADDRESS YOUR PROBLEMS, ETC.
03:53:48PM I THINK IS AN ABANDONMENT OF JUST A CORE GOVERNMENT
03:53:53PM RESPONSIBILITY TO THESE FOLKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:53:55PM THAT IS THE WORK THAT I THINK OF.
03:54:01PM I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT IT MOVES FORWARD I WOULD RATHER HAVE
03:54:06PM IT DONE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
03:54:08PM WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BRIEFLY THAT INVESTIGATIVE
03:54:11PM INQUIRY.
03:54:12PM THAT WILL INCLUDE SOUTH TAMPA IN TERMS OF THE CHALLENGES
03:54:15PM THAT HAPPENED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
03:54:17PM EVERY PART IT DIFFERENT.
03:54:18PM EVERY PART IS DIFFERENT.
03:54:19PM FOR ME IN PUBLIC OFFICE, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, YOU WILL MAKE
03:54:24PM SOMEBODY ANGRY.
03:54:26PM MIGHT MAKE PEOPLE ANGRY WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS RIGHT AND IN
03:54:29PM YOUR EYES WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING.
03:54:32PM THE BUCK STOPS HERE AND THE BUCK STOPS HERE.
03:54:34PM WHEN SOMETHING IS LIKE THIS, KNEE TOAD TO GO FORWARD WHAT I
03:54:38PM THINK IT RIGHT.
03:54:39PM WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT IS MOVING FORWARD WITH VIGOR.
03:54:43PM STAFF IS WORKING ON THIS ISSUE FOR SOME TIME.
03:54:46PM WE GOT BRIEFED IN 20 IT22.
03:54:52PM RIGHT NOW I DON'T REMEMBER IT.
03:54:53PM I WILL TRUST YOU.
03:54:55PM RELY ON YOUR STATEMENT THIS IS THE ONLY VIABLE ST. LOUIS
03:54:59PM THAT CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A REAL SOLUTION FOR THIS
03:55:03PM COMMUNITY OPPOSED TO SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
03:55:05PM AND MAYBE THERE ARE, BY THE WAY, THINGS IN SHORT TERM THAT
03:55:09PM WE CAN TO DO MET -- MITIGATE ISSUES, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT
03:55:17PM IS NOT IN A FLOOD ZONE DO NOT WANT MITIGATION, THEY WANT
03:55:21PM LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.
03:55:22PM LIKE YOU SAID MR. BHIDE.
03:55:25PM I'M 46, WHEN I'M GOD WILLING 59 OR 100 WHEN I'M HERE -- I
03:55:30PM KNOW, RIGHT -- THIS PLAN WILL STILL BE BENEFITING PEOPLE IN
03:55:34PM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:55:35PM I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
03:55:37PM WE CAN BRING THAT BACK TO FURTHER DISCUSS THIS IN NOVEMBER.
03:55:41PM I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
03:55:42PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO
03:55:45PM REQUIRE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY INPUT.
03:55:49PM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE COUNCIL
03:55:52PM UPDATES ON THIS.
03:55:53PM WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AS PART OF
03:55:57PM THAT.
03:55:57PM AND BY THE WAY, THERE ARE PLAN MOVES FORWARD, YOU CAN BET
03:56:01PM YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR WE ARE HEARING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE
03:56:04PM AFFECTED BY THIS.
03:56:04PM AND, BY THE WAY, THE BUCK STOPS HERE, JUST LIKE WE HEAR
03:56:08PM FROM PEOPLE AFTER MILTON AFFECTED BY IN ADVERSELY, WE CAN
03:56:14PM HEAR FROM PEOPLE ON HOWARD.
03:56:15PM AGAIN THAT IS WHAT WE SIGN UP FOR AND SOMETIMES WE MAKE A
03:56:18PM DECISION WHERE SOMEBODY WILL GET ANGRY AT YOU.
03:56:21PM MIGHT AS WELL DO IT WHAT I THINK IS RIGHT.
03:56:23PM I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS.
03:56:25PM SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT BY NOT GOING FORWARD BIGGER AT THIS
03:56:29PM TIME, IT WOULD BE AS I INTERPRET IT AN ABANDONMENT OF JUST A
03:56:34PM BASIC GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBILITY.
03:56:36PM YOU THINK OF THINGS LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH POLICE OR WITH
03:56:40PM FIRE, YOU KNOW.
03:56:41PM STORMWATER IS JUST A BASIC BREAD AND BUTTER ISSUE FOR LOCAL
03:56:47PM GOVERNMENT.
03:56:47PM AND, AGAIN, TO THE EXTENT WE DO CERTAIN THINGS.
03:56:51PM A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE BLACK AND WHITE AND THIS IS GRAY.
03:56:58PM THERE IS NO PERFECT WAY FORWARD.
03:57:01PM I THINK IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT BEGINS THE BALL
03:57:05PM ROLLING NOW AND PUTS A REAL ACCENTUATION INTO MITIGATING AS
03:57:14PM MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE CHALLENGES THAT ARE HERE TODAY, I
03:57:17PM THINK THIS IS THE BEST WE CAN DO.
03:57:18PM AND THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WILL SUPPORT AGAIN.
03:57:21PM POLITICAL BLOW BACK FROM THAT?
03:57:24PM ABSOLUTELY.
03:57:25PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE IN OFFICE TO DO IS TO TAKE THE HITS FOR
03:57:28PM DOING THE RIGHT THING ESPECIALLY ON THOSE GRAYISH EWES WHERE
03:57:31PM WE GOT TO SAY -- GRAY ISSUES AND WHERE WE SAY WE DEAL WITH
03:57:38PM THIS.
03:57:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN I WILL
03:57:41PM WRAP UP.
03:57:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YAY, THIS IS A MY TURN.
03:57:46PM AS A NEW COUNCILMEMBER AND GETTING ENORMOUS AMOUNT 67
03:57:50PM COMMUNICATION FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR
03:57:53PM TOPIC, I JUST HAVE TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME HISTORY THAT I CAME
03:58:03PM ACROSS AS I LIKE DOING THAT.
03:58:05PM AS I SIT IN THIS SEAT, OCTOBER 18, 1888, MR. BRYANT AND A
03:58:10PM FEW COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAME BEFORE THIS CHAMBER FROM THE --
03:58:15PM FROM THE SCRUB.
03:58:16PM AND THEY ASKED FOR ONE THING.
03:58:18PM THAT JUST BLEW ME AWAY.
03:58:21PM THEY ASKED FOR A WATER LINE INTO THEIR COMMUNITY.
03:58:24PM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE IT.
03:58:27PM THEY ALSO ASKED FOR JUST A FEW STREETS AND SOME LIGHTS.
03:58:35PM SO I DID A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH, AND I LOOKED, AND ALL
03:58:40PM OF THESE AMAZING COMMUNITIES ALREADY HAVE STREETS AND WATER
03:58:46PM AND LIGHTS AND THE MR. McKNIGHT TOLD HIM TO PUT IN WRITING.
03:58:55PM AT THE TIME IT WAS JUST PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:58:58PM PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WENT TO PUT IT IN WRITING.
03:59:02PM TO THE CHAIR'S SURPRISE, MR. BRYANT CAME BACK IN THE CHAMBER
03:59:05PM WITH A DETAILED OUTLINE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING
03:59:07PM FOR.
03:59:08PM AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
03:59:10PM JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW.
03:59:14PM I -- I COME FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF TRUSTING OUR STAFF.
03:59:22PM I LIKE DOING THAT.
03:59:25PM THEY ARE THE EXPERTS.
03:59:27PM WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THEM.
03:59:28PM AND TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION ALONG THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
03:59:33PM BECAUSE THAT PART IS IMPORTANT.
03:59:35PM YOU ALL ARE MEETING FOR YOUR COMMUNITIES.
03:59:39PM THERE WAS A POINT WHERE YOU WERE TALKING EARLIER AND URN CUT
03:59:42PM OFF.
03:59:42PM THAT I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR AND YOU HAD A TOCK ULTIMATE
03:59:46PM THERE.
03:59:46PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU -- IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU DID NOT GET A
03:59:50PM CHANCE TO SAY THAT.
03:59:51PM BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS GOING FAST AND HIS PASSION IS
03:59:56PM GREATLY APPRECIATE.
03:59:58PM WHAT I WILL SAY I DON'T BELIEVE ANY SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS TO
04:00:02PM CHANGE WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR COMMUNITIES.
04:00:04PM I WISH IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
04:00:05PM I FEEL BAD.
04:00:07PM ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT I RECEIVED WAS SO, YOU KNOW,
04:00:11PM IMPASSIONED AND DIRECTED TOWARD ME THAT MAYBE I WASN'T
04:00:16PM SENSITIVE ENOUGH.
04:00:17PM I CAN'T IMAGINE EXPERIENCED THE FLOODING THAT HAPPENED IN
04:00:23PM PARKLAND ESTATES ALONG WITH FOREST HILLS ALONG WITH PALMETTO
04:00:27PM BEACH AND BECOMES -- IT DOES BECOME PERSONAL BECAUSE SO MANY
04:00:31PM PEOPLE LOST A LOT OF THINGS.
04:00:32PM AND IT TRANSCENDS CLASS AND ECONOMIC STATUS.
04:00:39PM A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THINGS.
04:00:40PM PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL OFF AS WELL AS PEOPLE ARE WORKING -- THE
04:00:44PM WORKING POOR.
04:00:46PM AND FOR THIS PROCESS THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SAYING WE NEED TO
04:00:51PM START IN BAYSHORE AND IT WILL BENEFIT THE OTHER AREAS, I
04:00:56PM WILL TRUST THAT.
04:00:56PM I TRUST THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD PROCESS.
04:01:01PM I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A QUICK SOLUTION.
04:01:03PM I KNOW WE WILL HAVE TO PRAY FOR THE STORMS THAT COME IN
04:01:06PM BETWEEN THE FOUR YEARS IN WORKING TO GET THIS DONE.
04:01:08PM I ACTUALLY DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
04:01:11PM SO IF THE BENEFITS STARTS STARTING HOW YOU SAY WE ARE
04:01:15PM STARTING AND THE PROGRESSIVE DESIGN-BUILD IS THE BEST WAY,
04:01:19PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN AND I KNOW BECAUSE OF HOW
04:01:21PM THESE COMMUNITIES FIGHT IS THAT AS SOON AS THOSE STREETS GET
04:01:24PM CHOSEN, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO COME DOWN HERE AND SOMEBODY IS
04:01:29PM NOT GOING TO LIKE THAT THEIR STREET GOT PICKED.
04:01:32PM I AM GOING TO LISTEN, BUT I AM GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT THE
04:01:36PM RECOMMENDATION IS.
04:01:37PM I AM JUST SAYING THAT PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW.
04:01:39PM I AM SAYING IT.
04:01:40PM I KNOW THAT YOU -- SOMEBODY MIGHT END UP HAVING TO TREK
04:01:44PM THEIR GROCERIES A COUPLE OF BLOCKS TO GET TO THEIR HOUSE AND
04:01:48PM GO THROUGH THOSE PAINS, YOU KNOW, OF THE -- OF THE ENTIRE
04:01:52PM PROCESS.
04:01:52PM BUT I AM THINKING OF MR. BRYANT WHO JUST ASKED FOR ONE LINE.
04:01:59PM THAT IS WHO I AM THINKING ABOUT.
04:02:01PM AND I AM THINKING OF IT THE PERSON WHO SOLD THEIR HOUSE IN A
04:02:06PM FLOOD ZONE TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND IS THEIR HOUSE OKAY?
04:02:08PM I MEAN IT JUST EXPANDS MY BRAIN IN THAT WAY.
04:02:11PM AND SO IT IS -- I KNOW IT IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE AND I
04:02:16PM APPRECIATE THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY.
04:02:18PM THAT SAID WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, A 13-YEAR-OLD AND A
04:02:24PM 14-YEAR-OLD BECAUSE THAT IS WHO I AM THINKING ABOUT.
04:02:26PM AND I SAID THAT IN THE VIDEO WHEN I BECAME A COUNCILMEMBER.
04:02:30PM I AM ALWAYS GOING TO BE THINKING OF THE FUTURE GENERATION SO
04:02:33PM AS IT IS GOING TO HURT YOU WHILE IT IS GETTING DONE, BUT IT
04:02:36PM IS FOR THE FUTURE.
04:02:37PM AND I AM GOING TO STICK WITH WHAT THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING.
04:02:39PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
04:02:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:02:43PM I WANTED TO SHOW THE PHOTOS FROM 2019.
04:02:45PM HE WILL HAND THE GAVEL.
04:02:47PM IT IS ON MY PHONE.
04:02:48PM THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT --
04:02:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR, PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL
04:02:56PM YOU GET TO THE MICROPHONE.
04:02:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GUIDO MANISCALCO, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
04:03:03PM DO I NEED TO GIVE MY ADDRESS?
04:03:05PM [LAUGHTER]
04:03:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO YOU CAN HAVE MORE STALKERS.
04:03:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXCUSE MY LOOK.
04:03:12PM I WAS 50 POUNDS HEAVIER HERE.
04:03:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO IS THAT?
04:03:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS THE GUY I USED TO KNOW.
04:03:19PM THIS IS -- I BELIEVE THIS IS ESTRELLA.
04:03:21PM I BELIEVE IN IS IN 2019 DISCUSSION TO THE STORMWATER PROCESS.
04:03:25PM SAME CONTRACTOR WE ARE DISCUSSING KIMMINS.
04:03:30PM THIS IS ME STANDING BY STORMWATER.
04:03:33PM AND TEN FOOT BY -- IT IS THE SIZE OF A SMALL KIDS BEDROOM.
04:03:40PM THIS WHAT THE STREET LOOKED LIKE.
04:03:42PM THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROJECT.
04:03:45PM THIS IS WHAT HOWARD AVENUE LOOKS LIKE IF HOWARD AVENUE IS
04:03:49PM CHOSEN.
04:03:49PM YOU CAN GOLF CART, YOU CAN WALK, BUT IT WILL COMPLETELY
04:03:53PM DISRUPT BUSINESS.
04:03:54PM IF YOU DO IT ONE BLOCK AT A TIME OR TWO, IT IS BIG.
04:03:57PM THIS IS THE MAGNITUDE OF IT.
04:03:59PM THESE ARE THE STORMWATER VAULTS ON THE SIDE OF THE STREET IN
04:04:02PM PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND THAT WILL CONNECT
04:04:06PM UNDER THE CHOSEN ROUTE.
04:04:07PM SO IT IS -- IT IS A SIDEWALK-TO-SIDEWALK DIGGING.
04:04:11PM 20, 20 FEET, WHATEVER IT IS GOING TO BE TO PUT THESE IN.
04:04:15PM IT WAS A -- IT WAS -- CAN I JUST TALK FROM HERE -- I DON'T
04:04:21PM WANT TO TURN MY BACK TO THE AUDIENCE.
04:04:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MILES PER HOUR ATTRACTIVE FROM THAT --
04:04:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANOTHER COMEDIAN.
04:04:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL DO ANYTHING TO KEEP THE GAVEL.
04:04:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE AUDIENCE.
04:04:40PM I DON'T WANT TO TURN MY BACK TO ANYBODY.
04:04:42PM I TOLD THIS STORY AND I WILL TELL IT AGAIN.
04:04:45PM I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR TEN YEARS -- I KNOW, I WAS 30
04:04:48PM YEARS OLD AND NOW I AM 40.
04:04:50PM BUT -- BUT THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED THIS
04:04:55PM STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT AND MAINTENANCE
04:04:59PM ASSESSMENT, WHICH WAS A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
04:05:01PM AND IT WAS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST VOTES I EVER HAD TO TAKE.
04:05:04PM AND I REMEMBER, IT DROVE ME CRAZY.
04:05:09PM JUST LIKE THIS LAST MONTH, THIS SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING
04:05:13PM RELIEF.
04:05:13PM I HAVE BEEN TOP PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
04:05:15PM I HAVE MET WITH THEM IN THE COMMUNITIES.
04:05:17PM I HELPED THEM GET THEIR DEBRIS PICKED UP.
04:05:19PM WHATEVER I COULD DO.
04:05:21PM IT HAS GOTTEN SO BAD BECAUSE I AM OBSESSED WITH WORK.
04:05:24PM MY WIFE TOOK MY WORK PHONE AWAY AND SAID TAKE A BREAK.
04:05:28PM MEALS AND PHONE CALLS.
04:05:30PM GUIDO, THE COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT.
04:05:33PM BUT I AM PASSIONATE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE
04:05:37PM COMMUNITY AND GOING BACK TO 2015, 25016, THE PREVIOUS
04:05:40PM ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED THIS ASSESSMENT.
04:05:43PM I WENT BACK AND FORTH AND TRYING TO LOOK AT WHATEVER OPTION
04:05:46PM I COULD BEFORE SAYING, YES, TO RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES.
04:05:50PM I PITCHED EVERYTHING TONIGHT MAYOR PERSONALLY AND EVERYTHING
04:05:53PM WAS NO.
04:05:54PM WHEN THE VOTE CAME UP, I VOTED AGAINST IT.
04:05:56PM AND I ESSENTIALLY KILLED IT.
04:05:58PM ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE WAS NEW MOTIVATION FROM THAT
04:06:02PM ADMINISTRATION.
04:06:03PM THEY CAME UP WITH $20 MILLION IN COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX
04:06:06PM MONEY TO MAKE CHEAPER AND LESSEN THE BURDEN.
04:06:10PM AND THIS PROJECT WILL SAVE TAXPAYERS BETWEEN $30 MILLION TO
04:06:15PM $40 MILLION.
04:06:15PM STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PASSED SEPTEMBER 1, 015.
04:06:21PM SEPTEMBER 1, A DARK AND STORMY NIGHT.
04:06:23PM AND WHEN YOU TALK OF POLITICAL BLOW BACK.
04:06:28PM I HEARD IT -- I HEARD IT FROM ALL THE ANGLES.
04:06:31PM HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE ARE ABLE TO DO THE HENDERSON
04:06:35PM AND DALE MABRY FLOODING.
04:06:37PM ESTRELLA GOING TO WESTSHORE.
04:06:41PM SAME PROJECT.
04:06:42PM SAME CONTRACTOR WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
04:06:44PM BECAUSE OF THAT, ROME AND KENNEDY AND THE CYPRESS STREET
04:06:49PM OUTFALL.
04:06:50PM THAT FLOODED TERRIBLY IN 015.
04:06:52PM AS I MENTIONED WITH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
04:06:56PM THAT WAS PROBABLY THE WORSE OF IT, BECAUSE I AM CLOSE TO
04:06:59PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
04:06:59PM I DON'T LIVE THERE, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE BUSINESSES
04:07:03PM CLOSED.
04:07:04PM BUSINESSES WERE DEEPLY AFFECTED.
04:07:05PM ON TO HAVE OF THAT, YOU HAVE COVID.
04:07:09PM TIMING WOULDN'T BE WORSE.
04:07:11PM PEOPLE WERE SEEING HIT AFTER HIT AFTER HIT AND I GOT SO MANY
04:07:15PM COMPLAINTS.
04:07:16PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE APPOINTED HER TO THE BOARD.
04:07:19PM THEN SHE GOT ELECTED.
04:07:21PM BECAUSE SHE LIVES THERE.
04:07:22PM AGAIN, I AM THERE ALL THE TIME.
04:07:24PM COMPLAINTS WERE ENDLESS TO MY OFFICE.
04:07:27PM WE HAVE COMPLAINTS AT PEOPLE'S OFFICES.
04:07:30PM FRIENDS THAT LIVED THERE.
04:07:31PM I WOULD PARK BLOCKS AWAY AND WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:07:35PM COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT AFTER COMPLAINT.
04:07:38PM ONE PERSON I REMEMBER I COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING RIGHT.
04:07:41PM SHE JUST WANTED TO YELL.
04:07:44PM AND IT WAS LIKE -- EVERYTHING IS OKAY NOW, BUT FOR MONTHS,
04:07:47PM IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET YELLED AT 24-7, YOU KNOW
04:07:53PM MR. BHIDE, YOU TAKE A LOT OF HITS.
04:07:55PM PEOPLE ASK WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING.
04:07:57PM AVOID SAYING CITY COUNCIL.
04:07:59PM I GET YELLED AT FOR A LIVING.
04:08:01PM THEY SAY WHAT IT YOU THAT MEAN?
04:08:03PM AND I EXPLAIN TO THEM.
04:08:05PM WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH PARKLAND ESTATES.
04:08:08PM PALMA CEIA.
04:08:10PM PINES NORTH OF THERE.
04:08:11PM AND I WENT TO SCHOOL THERE.
04:08:12PM I TELL PEOPLE I WENT TO THE GREEK SCHOOL.
04:08:15PM IT WAS GREEK.
04:08:16PM NOW THE CHURCH.
04:08:17PM I WENT THERE.
04:08:18PM I HAVE BEEN GETTING COFFEE N THAT NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE HIGH
04:08:22PM SCHOOL.
04:08:22PM I HAD MY FIRST DATE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS 13 YEARS
04:08:26PM OLD -- NO, I AM -- WE WENT TO THE MOVIES IT WAS AMC DOWN THE
04:08:31PM STREET IN HYDE PARK.
04:08:32PM I HAVE A LOT OF DEEP CONNECTIONS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:08:35PM BERN'S RESTAURANT.
04:08:38PM WHALEY'S MARKET.
04:08:40PM I AM GOING BACK -- MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW, GOING BACK TO
04:08:44PM THE '90S.
04:08:45PM BUT MY CONCERN IS THIS.
04:08:46PM I WANT TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT IS IMPACTFUL AND
04:08:51PM MEANINGFUL.
04:08:53PM ARE WE GOING TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEMS?
04:08:55PM NO.
04:08:56PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP INTERESTING POINTS AND
04:08:58PM CHILDREN.
04:08:59PM MY ISSUE, WE MOVE FORWARD AND YOU HAVE TO SAY YES IN ORDER
04:09:02PM TO GO FOR A DESIGN-BUILD OR DESIGN PUBLIC INPUT AND WE WILL
04:09:07PM SELECT A ROUTE.
04:09:07PM WHY CAN'T WE SELECT A ROUTE -- MY CONCERN IS, WHY DOES IT
04:09:11PM HAVE TO IMPACT HOWARD?
04:09:13PM I WAS LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT YOU PUT UP.
04:09:16PM AND IT WAS NUMBER THREE.
04:09:18PM AND I LOOKED AT IT CLOSELY AND IT SAYS MORRISON -- GOING
04:09:23PM ACROSS MORRISON TO ALBANY.
04:09:25PM WHY IS ALBANY A NARROW RESIDENTIAL STREET.
04:09:28PM YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU DEAL WITH ESTRELLA EVEN THOUGH IT WAS
04:09:31PM TERRIBLE.
04:09:31PM IT WORKED -- KIMMINS WAS ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
04:09:37PM WHY HAVE SOMETHING MORE DEFINITIVE BEFORE WE SAY YES.
04:09:42PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY YES TO SOMETHING AND WE LOSE CONTROL.
04:09:44PM LOOKING AT THE DOCK DAYCARE ULTIMATE AND CITY SAID NO ROUTE
04:09:52PM ANALYSIS WILL BE REQUIRED.
04:09:53PM WHY HAS BRISTOL CHOSEN AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT ROUTE IS SET.
04:09:58PM THOSE SENTENCES THERE CONCERN ME.
04:10:00PM I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.
04:10:01PM AND WHEN THEM ALREADY MADE THEIR MIND, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS
04:10:04PM CONVINCE COUNCIL TO SAY YES.
04:10:06PM I HAVE BEEN DOING POLITICS LONG ENOUGH AND I LEARNED NOT TO
04:10:09PM TRUST PEOPLE.
04:10:10PM NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY.
04:10:11PM BUT WHEN YOU GET BURNED REPEATEDLY, YOU ARE SUSPICIOUS OF
04:10:15PM EVERYBODY.
04:10:15PM SO WHAT GUARANTEES DO WE HAVE?
04:10:18PM YOU SAY, COUNCIL, IT HAS GOT TO COME BEFORE YOU.
04:10:21PM IT HAS GOT TO COME BEFORE YOU.
04:10:23PM AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAID YOU APPROVED THE -- THE
04:10:26PM CONTRACT IS SIGNED.
04:10:27PM THIS COULD GO TO THE COURTS IN A LAWSUIT.
04:10:30PM AND, WELL, THE SHIP HAS SAILED.
04:10:33PM WHAT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SAFETY NETS DO WE HAVE, BECAUSE I
04:10:36PM AM NOT GOING TO HAVE BLOOD ON MY HANDS PHILOSOPHICALLY WITH
04:10:40PM PEOPLE MOVING OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
04:10:42PM THIS PROJECT NOT BEING DONE.
04:10:43PM PUTTING BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS.
04:10:45PM YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EMPLOYED IN THAT AREA.
04:10:47PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING RIGHT THING WHEN YOU GO
04:10:58PM INTO PEOPLE'S HOMES AND LOST EVERYTHIBG,
04:11:01PM WILL THE CITY COME AND PICK -- I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT.
04:11:06PM CHILDREN AND TRAUMA.
04:11:11PM I HAVE TROUBLE SLEEPING BECAUSE OF WORK.
04:11:14PM IF PEOPLE HOW MUCH WORRY OF WAKING UP WITHOUT POWER AND
04:11:21PM WATER UP TO THEIR KNEES.
04:11:22PM WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING AND OUR GOOD PERSON.
04:11:25PM WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
04:11:26PM BUT I WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING THAT IS LEAST IMPACTFUL.
04:11:30PM MY THING IS, I DON'T WANT TO HURT PEOPLE.
04:11:32PM YES THESE ARE TOUGH POLITICAL POSITIONS, BUT PEOPLE HAVE
04:11:36PM SUFFERED.
04:11:36PM THIS IS AWFUL.
04:11:38PM I HAVE KNOWN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE I WAS A KID.
04:11:42PM SO THAT'S IT.
04:11:45PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
04:11:45PM FIRST, THANK YOU FOR SHARING SOME OF YOUR PAST.
04:11:49PM THOSE NICE STORY THERE IS.
04:11:52PM SO ON THE ROUTES.
04:11:53PM WHY NOT THE ALBANY ROUTE OR THE GEORGIA, MISSISSIPPI ROUTE
04:12:00PM OR SOME OF THE OTHER ROUTES THAT ARE SHOWN.
04:12:02PM HE WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER A MATRIX OF DIFFERENT FACTORS.
04:12:12PM THE FACTORS BEGAN OF MOVING WATER FIRST, BUT LOOKED AT
04:12:16PM IMPACTS, IMPACT TO TREES, AVAILABLE WIDTH OF THE
04:12:19PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
04:12:20PM LIKE YOU SAID A NARROW STREET.
04:12:24PM THE CHALLENGE OF A NARROW STREET AND A VERY BIG BOX CULVERT
04:12:36PM OR EVERYBODY AROUND THE PROPERTY PROVIDES AN EASEMENT THAT
04:12:41PM GOES THROUGH POOLS, BACKYARDS AND HOPEFULLY BACK YARD AND
04:12:45PM NOT FRONT YARD WILL IMPACT WASTEWATER CONNECTIONS WHICH ARE
04:12:48PM TYPICALLY IN THE BACK YARD.
04:12:49PM THE OTHER THING WITH ALL OF THESE ROUTES UNFORTUNATELY BUT
04:12:59PM TRUE, THE BOX UNDER CSX.
04:13:02PM THE SCHEDULE WAS A DRIVING FACT ARE.
04:13:04PM THE THIRD DRIVING FACTOR IS CAN IT CONNECT TO AN OUTFALL ON
04:13:09PM BAYSHORE ULTIMATELY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE VERY DISRUPTIVE AS
04:13:14PM WELL.
04:13:14PM TODAY OUR PROBABLY BEGINS AT BAYSHORE.
04:13:16PM SHOULD COUNCIL MOVE IT FORWARD.
04:13:26PM EIGHT TO TEN WEEKS ON BAYSHORE.
04:13:28PM NOT MORE THAN.
04:13:30PM TO BUILD A WHOLE BOX AT BAYSHORE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT.
04:13:36PM EVEN WITH THIS IMPACT TWO LANES IN EITHER DIRECTION.
04:13:41PM STILL ACCESS.
04:13:42PM IF WE WERE TO CONSTRUCT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE
04:13:45PM ACCESS BECAUSE YOU ARE BUILDING THAT OUTFALL TO BAYSHORE ALL
04:13:51PM THESE CONSIDERATIONS AN LET ME TOUCH ON TREES A LITTLE BIT
04:13:53PM MORE.
04:13:54PM HUGE IMPACTS TO GRAND TREES ALONG -- HUGE IMPACT TO GRAND
04:14:08PM TREES ALONG THE ALBANY AND GEORGIA ROUTES.
04:14:11PM AND THEN FINALLY IN THE 09-TURNS THAT ARE REQUIRED.
04:14:17PM WATER DOES NOT LIKE TO MAKE 90-DEGREE TURNS.
04:14:22PM IT IS HARD AND THE DESIGN IS CHALLENGED AND DOESN'T WORK AS
04:14:27PM WELL.
04:14:27PM ALL THESE FACTORS THAT BEGIN WITH WHAT A VIABLE.
04:14:33PM THE GIST OF IT.
04:14:37PM AND INTERESTING STORY ON THE BERN'S CELLAR AND THE WINE.
04:14:44PM ONE OF THE REASONS THAT KIMMINS WAS SELECTED FROM THE OTHER
04:14:50PM TWO CONTRACTORS BECAUSE OF THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL.
04:14:52PM DURING THEIR PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES THEY USED TO
04:14:54PM PROTECT BUSINESSES WAS RECOGNITION OF THE WINE CELLAR
04:15:00PM UNDER BERN'S AND TALKING OF MANAGING VIBRATION AND MANAGING
04:15:06PM ACCESS THROUGH THAT SEGMENT.
04:15:07PM SO WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR THAT WILL BE SENSITIVE
04:15:11PM TO A LOT OF THESE NEEDS.
04:15:13PM BUT THERE IS TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT, THERE IS NO
04:15:18PM SCENARIO OF NO IMPACT.
04:15:19PM THERE WILL BE IMPACT.
04:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, IS IT A QUESTION OF MONEY IF
04:15:25PM WE FIND AN ALTERNATE?
04:15:27PM I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE JUST REVIEWED THE C.I.T. FOR ANOTHER
04:15:31PM 15 YEARS.
04:15:31PM I TOLD YOU MY STORY OF GETTING MORE MONEY THAT -- THERE WAS
04:15:34PM NO OTHER OPTION BACK THEN UNTIL I SAID NO.
04:15:37PM AND $20 MILLION AND.
04:15:39PM IF IT IS AS MATTER OF MONEY, I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE
04:15:42PM PROBABLY COST AS LITTLE BIT MORE TO BE -- TO BE LESS
04:15:46PM IMPACTFUL TO -- I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE
04:15:51PM HOMEOWNERS, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE EMPLOYED THROUGHOUT THAT
04:15:55PM CORRIDOR.
04:15:55PM I COME FROM A FAMILY OF SMALL BUSINESSES.
04:15:57PM F IF THIS WAS THEIR BUSINESS, I WOULD TELL THEM TO SELL
04:16:01PM THEIR PROPERTY -- THEY DON'T OWN THIS THEY RENT.
04:16:06PM MOVE OUT AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
04:16:08PM YES, WE SURVIVED COVID.
04:16:11PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAY THIS HURRICANE WILL MAKE COVID LOOK
04:16:15PM LIKE A CAKEWALK AND COVID WAS MISERABLE.
04:16:18PM A MATTER OF MONEY IF WE CAN DO THIS AND GO DOWN SWANN.
04:16:22PM IF WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT.
04:16:24PM IF WE CAN DO LIFT STATIONS, PUMP STATIONS, WHATEVER IT IS,
04:16:29PM LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I AM HAPPY TO -- TO ENTERTAIN AND
04:16:31PM SUPPORT.
04:16:32PM IF IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE, IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
04:16:34PM BUT IF WE DO THE RIGHT THING, WE DO THE RIGHT THING.
04:16:38PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE AND THEN WE
04:16:42PM WILL WRAP IT UP.
04:16:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO A COUPLE OF THINGS.
04:16:46PM ONE, EVERYBODY SAW YOUR PICTURE SO NOBODY BELIEVED THAT YOU
04:16:49PM HAD A DATE BACK THEN.
04:16:50PM SO -- [LAUGHTER]
04:16:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOW.
04:16:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE DATES.
04:16:57PM MOTHER GOT IMPACTED BY -- WE BROKE UP 25 YEARS AGO BUT TIE
04:17:02PM -- MY WIFE TIES INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:17:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL CIRCLES AROUND.
04:17:07PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS ARE LISTENING, UNLESS THERE IS SOME
04:17:10PM OTHER MAGIC FORMULA THAT I AM NOT LEERING.
04:17:14PM WHAT MR. BHIDE TOLD US, IN OUTFLOW ON HOWARD IS -- I MEAN,
04:17:22PM THAT -- THAT IS -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE STARTING.
04:17:25PM THAT -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO START.
04:17:28PM NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS THING TO BEACH PARK OR
04:17:31PM TAKE THIS THING TO WHEREVER, IT IS GOING -- ITS GOING --
04:17:34PM THAT LAST SEGMENT BE THE HOWARD BAYSHORE SEGMENT.
04:17:38PM SO WE START OFF ON THAT ASSUMPTION THIS IS WHERE THIS WATER
04:17:43PM IS GOING TO GO BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THAT IS WHERE WATER GOES,
04:17:46PM IT IS FLOWING DOWNHILL AND IT IS DOWN HILL.
04:17:49PM INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
04:17:50PM AND I APPRECIATE THIS -- SOME OF THAT FIRST BRIEFS THAT I
04:17:55PM GOT ON THIS PROJECT WAS THE STREET IMPROVEMENTS YOU ARE
04:17:57PM PROMISING FOR HOWARD, THE SECTION BETWEEN THE CROSSTOWN AND
04:18:01PM BAYSHORE ALREADY HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS IMPACTS.
04:18:04PM I THINK ULTIMATELY, THE IMPACTS, BECAUSE OF THE TREMENDOUS
04:18:08PM SIDEWALK, LANDSCAPE, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS WILL MITIGATE THE
04:18:13PM IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT WILL HAVE ON THAT SEGMENT.
04:18:16PM SO I THINK QUALITY -- ONE, FOR THE BUSINESSES WILL IMPROVE
04:18:20PM THE BUSINESSES AND IMPROVE THEIR VIABILITY.
04:18:22PM AND ALSO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT LIVE IN THAT
04:18:24PM GENERAL VICINITY.
04:18:26PM THE PORTIONS -- THERE IS -- THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT
04:18:30PM I AM STILL CONCERNED GO.
04:18:31PM I AM -- WHAT I AM HEARING -- YOU INITIALLY STEERED CLEAR OF
04:18:38PM THAT SWANN, HOWARD.
04:18:39PM LESS RIGHT TURNS WHEN YOU DO THAT.
04:18:41PM LITERALLY TAKEN TWO RIGHT TURNS MADE IT INTO ONE.
04:18:49PM INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH IS MONEY AND YOU HEARD FROM THE
04:18:52PM CHAIRMAN.
04:18:52PM HEARD TO MAKE A MORE REASONABLE LESS IMPACTFUL PROJECT,
04:18:56PM LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT.
04:18:57PM IF THAT IS WHAT WORKS AND MAKES SENSE, LET'S FIGURE IT OUT
04:19:02PM AND WE WILL TRY TO FIND IT.
04:19:03PM I WILL KEEP GOING BACK AND MAKES SENSE TO ME.
04:19:06PM WHEN WE THINK THROUGH STAGING COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
04:19:09PM ONE LITTLE PROBLEM AREA BETWEEN BRISTOL AND SOUTH -- ONE
04:19:13PM BLOCK SOUTH OF BRISTOL ON HOWARD AND DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND
04:19:16PM BECAUSE OF THE CONFIGURATIONS AND PROBABLY WE HAVE AGAIN
04:19:19PM AWAY PROPERTY IN THE PAST AND BUILT ON IT.
04:19:21PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY THROUGHWAYS ANYMORE.
04:19:25PM EVERYTHING ELSE -- WE CAN GO NORTH AND AROUND -- WHAT IS IT,
04:19:30PM THE STREET -- THE CVS UP THERE TO GET RIGHT AROUND THAT.
04:19:33PM OTHER OPTIONS OF CIRCLING AROUND.
04:19:35PM THE ONLY OTHER THINGS WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IF WE HAVE TIME
04:19:41PM TALKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT
04:19:48PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS HIT ON.
04:19:49PM BECAUSE A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERETO THAT SOMEHOW THIS
04:19:52PM COUNCIL HAS BEEN LAX AND WE HAVE IGNORED THIS AREA FROM
04:19:57PM PARKLAND AND ALSO FROM SWANN TO KENNEDY.
04:20:00PM THERE HAS NOT BEEN A PROJECT -- THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY
04:20:03PM NOT CONCEIVED FOR THIS.
04:20:07PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE DOING IF WE HAVE TO EXPAND
04:20:09PM THE SCOPE AND DIP FURTHER NEAR STORMWATER WHATEVER THEY HAVE
04:20:13PM TO DO TO PURSUE MORE GRANTS TO MAKE SURE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD
04:20:15PM IS TAKEN CARE OF THAT IT OCCURS.
04:20:21PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS.
04:20:23PM WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THIS MORNING THE AREAS IN PALMA
04:20:27PM CEIA FURTHER SOUTH OF THIS.
04:20:29PM A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
04:20:30PM AND MAKING SURE.
04:20:31PM I KNOW YOUR OFFICE IS DOING THIS, BUT PEOPLE LISTENING TO
04:20:34PM THIS BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD -- A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF JUST
04:20:38PM THIS, KNOWING THAT WE HAD SOME PRETTY DEVASTATING FRESH
04:20:41PM WATER FLOODING AROUND -- WE ARE NOT TALKING OF SURGE
04:20:45PM FLOODING BUT FRESH WATER FLOODING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
04:20:48PM THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.
04:20:49PM AND SOME OF THIS MAY BE JUST AS SIMPLE AS MAKING SURE WE DO
04:20:52PM THOSE DITCHES.
04:20:53PM AND WE HAVE A REGULAR SCHEDULE THAT MAYBE THIS IS
04:20:55PM HIGHLIGHTED SOME AREAS THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON.
04:21:02PM AND WE HAVE A ROUTE THAT EXPERIENCE FRESH WATER FLOODING
04:21:05PM THAT THE CITY WILL RESPOND TO THAT AND LOOK WHAT THE CAUSES
04:21:08PM OF THOSE IN THE POCKET NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE ARE NOT IGNORING
04:21:11PM YOU.
04:21:11PM THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
04:21:13PM BUT THE CITY STAFF IS ON TOP OF IT.
04:21:15PM WITHER GOING TO PURSUE THAT.
04:21:17PM YOU WILL FIGURE OUT WHY IT FLOODED.
04:21:20PM IF WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE A PROJECT OR JUST MAINTENANCE.
04:21:23PM TALK OF MILLING ROADS.
04:21:24PM TALKED OF THESE ROADS BEING UP HIGH.
04:21:26PM SO THE SEWER SYSTEM WAS HERE.
04:21:28PM AND WE KEEP LAYERING ROADS AND CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND I
04:21:33PM WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.
04:21:34PM EVENTUALLY A ROAD YOU REPAVED SEVEN TIMES OVER THE LAST
04:21:39PM SEVEN YEARS AND INLET HERE AND A SLIVER OF SPACE FOR WATER
04:21:44PM TO COME TO.
04:21:45PM MILLING BACK THE ROADS AND RECLAIMING THAT AND SOME OF THE
04:21:47PM AREAS IS THE SOLUTION I AM HOPING THAT YOU GUYS WILL COME
04:21:54PM BACK AND HOPE THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT COMES BACK WITH -- WE
04:21:58PM IDENTIFIED THESE AREAS AND THESE SOLUTION.
04:22:00PM IF IT IS BACK-UP GENERATORS AT FOREST HILLS, WHATEVER THOSE
04:22:04PM THINGS ARE THAT CAN SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS, THAT YOU GUYS COME
04:22:08PM FORWARD TO TELL US, ONE, WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT WE
04:22:12PM OBSERVED.
04:22:12PM WE HAVE PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION FOR.
04:22:15PM WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE.
04:22:16PM HOW MUCH ITS GOING TO COST AND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE
04:22:18PM MONEY.
04:22:19PM THANK YOU.
04:22:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MENTIONING THAT.
04:22:22PM I WILL JUST TOUCH UPON REAL QUICK, COUNCIL APPROVED A $5
04:22:27PM MILLION WATER SHED MANAGEMENT PLAN.
04:22:29PM THAT IS OUR STORM WARE PLAN.
04:22:30PM THAT GOING TO INFORM THE NEXT ROUND OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.
04:22:34PM THAT IT WHAT IT DOES.
04:22:35PM THAT WORK IS UNDER WAY.
04:22:37PM I CAN'T THANK THIS COUNCIL ENOUGH FOR THAT.
04:22:39PM ON NOVEMBER 18, WE WILL HOLD A MULTINEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
04:22:44PM IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR THE SOUTH HOWARD.
04:22:51PM THE COMMUNICATION IS ALREADY OUT ON THAT.
04:22:53PM WE WILL DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO ENGAGE.
04:22:55PM AND THEN ON JANUARY 257 -- OR 23.
04:23:00PM I AM NOT SO SURE, COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE A MOTION TO COVER
04:23:04PM THIS WITH SHORT TERM SOLUTION RELATIVE TO STORMWATER AND
04:23:08PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
04:23:09PM THAT IS WHEN WE WILL HAVE BETTER INFORMATION AND GENERATORS
04:23:11PM AND WHAT WE CAN DO IN THE SHORT TERM.
04:23:14PM A POINT WAS MADE EARLIER TODAY ABOUT MAINTENANCE AND THAT IS
04:23:18PM CRITICAL.
04:23:18PM WE TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE ASSESSMENT.
04:23:22PM THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
04:23:23PM BUT IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED RELATIVE TO OUR NEEDS AND COSTS
04:23:27PM TODAY.
04:23:28PM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
04:23:29PM THANK YOU.
04:23:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CLOSE OUT WITH
04:23:33PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN -- WELL, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL
04:23:36PM BE THE CLOSER.
04:23:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:23:37PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
04:23:38PM I JUST WANT -- I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THE WATER SHED
04:23:43PM MITIGATION PLAN BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO BRING UP
04:23:45PM THAT OUR STAFF IS ALREADY WORKING ON THE NEXT ITERATION.
04:23:48PM THIS IS -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WE NEEDED TO TAKE
04:23:52PM CARE OF, AND I AM SO AND HAPPY TO SAY THAT OUR CITY HAS BEEN
04:24:03PM FAR AHEAD THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN THE STATE LOOKING AT THIS
04:24:06PM BEFOREHAND.
04:24:07PM WE KNOW -- WE KNOW WE ARE A CITY THAT HAS THIS KIND OF
04:24:11PM IMPACT.
04:24:11PM AND MILTON AND HELENE JUST PROVED IT TO US THAT WE WERE
04:24:16PM RIGHT TO GET STARTED.
04:24:17PM IF WE COULD HAVE STARTED 20 YEARS BEFORE THAT, GREAT.
04:24:19PM BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
04:24:21PM AND WE ARE BET YOU ARE OFF WHERE WE WERE.
04:24:23PM AND I DO WANT TO NEXT THAT -- THAT THE MILLING.
04:24:26PM A LOT OF THAT IS ALLEYS.
04:24:28PM A LOT OF THAT IS ALLEYS.
04:24:29PM BECAUSE ALLEYS ARE WHERE STORMWATER GOES A LOT OF
04:24:32PM COMMUNITIES.
04:24:33PM AND I -- I HAD TALK TALKED TO YOU ABOUT EVEN CREATING A --
04:24:42PM WHEN WE FIXED THESE ALLEYS AND LOWERED AND MILLED THEM, THAT
04:24:47PM BECOMING ANOTHER WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THEM FOR RECREATION
04:24:56PM WHICH IS A HUGE ISSUE IN THE SUMMER.
04:24:58PM ALLEYS ARE SHADED AND TREED.
04:25:00PM A ONE-TWO PUNCH.
04:25:02PM TO USE STORMWATER FUNDS FOR THAT WORK.
04:25:05PM WE ARE FIXING THE ALLEYS AND ADDING MAYBE A LITTLE PARKS
04:25:09PM MONEY ON TOP OF THAT TO HELP -- TO HELP MAKE IT MORE USABLE
04:25:13PM SPACE.
04:25:13PM SORT OF A TWO-FOR-ONE.
04:25:16PM THE REASON I TURNED ON MY MIC, I AM DEFINITELY CONCERNED OF
04:25:21PM BUSINESSES AND MAKING SURE WE DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO MITIGATE
04:25:29PM ANY OF THE IMPACTS BECAUSE THESE ARE WEEK AND MONTH IMPACTS.
04:25:34PM ONE OR TWO MONTHS, NOT YEAR IMPACTS.
04:25:37PM WHAT WE WILL HAVE TO DO IS FIND A WAY TO HAVE MORE PARKING
04:25:40PM SOMEWHERE.
04:25:41PM TO HAVE WAYS THAT WE CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE -- ENCOURAGE
04:25:45PM PEOPLE TO COME TO HOWARD AVENUE TO USE THESE BUSINESSES AND
04:25:55PM THE NEIGHBORS TALKED ABOUT -- HOW THIS FOCUS IS IMPACTED
04:25:59PM THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO GET THEIR FUNDS AND WHERE
04:26:02PM THEY ARE GOING TO VISIT.
04:26:03PM SO I JUST -- I DO WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT A FOUR-YEAR
04:26:08PM PROJECT DOES NOT MEAN FOUR YEARS OF NOT ACCESS -- NOT HAVING
04:26:12PM ACCESS TO HOWARD AVENUE.
04:26:13PM ONE THE HOWARD AVENUE SECTION IS DONE WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE
04:26:17PM THE -- HONESTLY LOOKING AT ANY OF THE THOSE PATHWAYS, THE
04:26:23PM SHORTEST LEAST IMPACTFUL PART.
04:26:26PM THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO VISIT THOSE BUSINESSES AND I THINK
04:26:29PM THAT WE HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
04:26:33PM ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR SMALL BUSINESSES TO HELP.
04:26:37PM THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE THINGS WE CAN LEARN HERE.
04:26:40PM AND I AM JUST SAYING I AM COMMITTED TO WORKING ON THAT.
04:26:43PM I AM SUBMITTED TO DRIVING DOWN AND PATRON SIZING THOSE
04:26:47PM BUSINESSES PERSONALLY AND ENCOURAGING OTHERS IN THE
04:26:50PM COMMUNITY DO SO BECAUSE THAT IS THE WAY WE GET THROUGH THESE
04:26:53PM TYPE OF PROJECTS.
04:26:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA WILL
04:26:57PM CLOSE US OUT.
04:26:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, I WANT TO SAY TO THE FOLKS HERE AND
04:27:02PM TO THE ONES WATCHING ONLINE, I TOLD EVERYBODY PUBLICLY CLOSE
04:27:08PM AND PRIVATELY.
04:27:08PM I AM 100% COMMITTED TO FINDING A SOLUTION.
04:27:13PM I DON'T LIKE THE SOLUTION ON THE TABLE.
04:27:15PM MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHERS DON'T
04:27:18PM LIKE THE SOLUTION.
04:27:18PM THE CONFLICT HAS COME FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE ARE BATTLING
04:27:23PM THAT WE SHOULDN'T OPEN IT TO ADDITIONAL IDEAS.
04:27:25PM VIK, IF YOU COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL, IT CAN'T BE A REGULAR
04:27:31PM DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT.
04:27:36PM IT HAS TO BE A PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC IS ENGAGED AND
04:27:39PM LOOKING TO GIVE INPUT INTO IT.
04:27:40PM I USED TO DO PUBLIC INPUT FOR A REASON.
04:27:48PM YOU WANT TO SELL A PROJECT.
04:27:50PM WHAT COLOR YOU WANT IT TO BE AND WHAT CORNER YOU WANT TO
04:27:53PM START WITH FIRST.
04:27:54PM PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND CLEARLY NOT PUBLIC INPUT.
04:28:02PM NOT REAL PUBLIC INPUT DONE BEFORE LAST YEAR OR BEFORE EARLY
04:28:06PM THIS YEAR.
04:28:07PM THERE WERE MEETINGS SINCE THEN, BUT NO REAL BIG PUBLIC MEET
04:28:12PM BUGS SOME NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, AND I AM DISAPPOINTED OF
04:28:17PM THE WAY THE MAYOR AND HER POLITICAL ADVISOR I UNDERSTAND
04:28:21PM WENT TO MEET WITH A SMALL GROUP AND NOT A LARGER GROUP OF
04:28:25PM PARKLAND ESTATES AND ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
04:28:27PM I WOULD RECOMMEND A MEETING OF EVERYONE ONCE YOU START THE
04:28:30PM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
04:28:31PM COMMUNICATION ON THIS HAS BEEN TERRIBLE.
04:28:34PM YOU HAVE THE BEST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERSON, MICHELLE
04:28:38PM ROBINSON.
04:28:38PM YOU HAVE THE BEST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERSON.
04:28:43PM SHE ABSOLUTELY KNOWS HOW TO DO IT.
04:28:45PM BUT YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH HER RIGHT TO MAKE SURE IT WORKS.
04:28:48PM WE HAVE TO HAVE REAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC INPUT.
04:28:52PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE -- FOR THE PUBLIC, MY SKEPTICISM IS --
04:28:57PM IS -- AND GUIDO ALLUDED TO, MY ADMINISTRATION GOT THINGS
04:29:05PM PRESENTED TO US THAT WE FOUND OUT WAS COMPLETELY FALSE.
04:29:08PM YES, WE TRUST ENGINEERS BUT WHEN THE CITY SAYS WITH HE MUST
04:29:13PM PAY $6 BILLION ON A TOILET TO TAP AND RUN OUT OF WATER AND
04:29:17PM PROVE THAT IT IS FALSE AND THEY FINALLY ADMIT IT IS FALSE
04:29:20PM AND I CAN GO OVER AND OVER AND GIVE YOU HUNDREDS EXAMPLES.
04:29:23PM WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION HAS A TRACK RECORD OF PRESENTING
04:29:27PM THINGS THAT -- THAT DON'T BUILD TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY AND
04:29:31PM DON'T BUILD TRUST FOR COUNCIL, IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING TO US.
04:29:34PM WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY PRESENT SOMETHING THAT PRESENT
04:29:36PM SOMETHING TO US AND THEY GET US TO APPROVE IT AND ANOTHER
04:29:39PM BITE OF THE APPLE.
04:29:43PM WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US, THEY SAY YOU ARE ALREADY APPROVED
04:29:46PM IT AND YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING FURTHER.
04:29:48PM THEY SAY YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE ON IT AGAIN.
04:29:50PM WE DON'T TRUST THEM -- AT LEAST I DON'T TRUST THEM BECAUSE
04:29:53PM THEY HAVE DONE BEFORE AND SAID YOU ALREADY PROVED IT.
04:29:56PM THE PUBLIC HAS TO HAVE INPUT INTO THE PROCESS AND THE ROUTE.
04:29:59PM SOUNDED LIKE FROM YOUR STATEMENTS AFTER YOU AND I TALK
04:30:02PM THE ROUTES ARE ALREADY SET.
04:30:04PM AND -- AND WE KNOW FROM THE DOCUMENTS IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS
04:30:08PM SET.
04:30:08PM YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IT OPEN AND ONE TIME YOU HAVE
04:30:11PM TOLD ME 14, 19, WHATEVER THE ROUTES, WHATEVER THE SOLUTION
04:30:15PM WE HAVE TO OPEN THAT UP.
04:30:15PM ALSO, IT -- IN THE PUBLIC OUTREACH, NOT JUST IMPORTANT TO
04:30:22PM UNDERSTAND THE ROUTES AND EVERYTHING YOU HAVE TO TALK OF
04:30:29PM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
04:30:30PM HISTORIC HYDE PARK.
04:30:31PM NOT EVERYBODY SHOWED UP TODAY BECAUSE THEY FIGURED THIS WAS
04:30:34PM A REGULAR UPDATE.
04:30:35PM THEY CAN WATCH IT ON TV.
04:30:37PM BUT THE NEXT TIME WE WILL HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE ONE OF THE
04:30:42PM CONCERNS THAT BUSINESSES SAID IF THIS GOES DOWN HOWARD, THEY
04:30:45PM WILL FILE A LAWSUIT.
04:30:46PM IF IT GOES DOWN SWANN, MAY HAVE A LAWSUIT.
04:30:50PM IF YOU DON'T DO PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHICH HAS BEEN HORRIBLE
04:30:54PM FOR DATE, WE WILL DEFINITELY GET LAWSUIT.
04:30:57PM WHY SHOULD THE COMMUNITY CARE OF A LAWSUIT, BECAUSE IT CAN
04:31:00PM DELAY IT BY A YEAR OR TWO.
04:31:01PM IF WE DO PROPER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
04:31:04PM WE CAN PREVENT THIS ON THIS EDGE.
04:31:08PM I HAVE A MOTION I WILL MAKE LATER ABOUT SHORT-TERM
04:31:11PM SOLUTIONS.
04:31:11PM BUT I REALLY THINK WHAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE SMALLER THINGS,
04:31:14PM WE NEED TO PACKAGE IT ALL TOGETHER AND EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC
04:31:17PM THAT WE ARE DOING THINGS.
04:31:18PM EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE THAT I HAVE HEARD TODAY
04:31:22PM THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS ONLY BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A YEAR
04:31:24PM OR LESS.
04:31:25PM THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN AT IT FOR TEN YEARS AND HAVEN'T DELAY
04:31:31PM IT IS.
04:31:37PM THEY ARE GOING TO ASK US WHY DIDN'T YOU TOP IS IT FROM
04:31:41PM HAPPENING.
04:31:41PM YOU JUST STAYED YOU CAN'T STOP IT.
04:31:44PM NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS, THEY WILL GO THROUGH THE
04:31:47PM RENOVATION AND MIGHT GET FLOODED.
04:31:49PM I HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO TRY TO PREVENT THAT.
04:31:53PM AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR SOLUTION ON THAT.
04:31:55PM LAST THING IS WE ALL AGREE TO DISAGREE AT TIMES.
04:32:02PM MY JOB OUTSIDE OF THIS HAS BEEN CONTINUE TO BUILD COMMUNITY
04:32:07PM IN DIVISIVE ISSUES.
04:32:08PM THIS IS MORE DIVISIVE THAN TOILET TO TAP.
04:32:11PM MOST DIVISIVE ISSUE THAT WE HAVE SEEN.
04:32:15PM I DON'T KNOW WHY.
04:32:16PM OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN SOUTH TAMPA AND OTHER PLACES AND NOT
04:32:19PM AS DIVISIVE AS THIS.
04:32:20PM ASK EVERYBODY.
04:32:22PM OPEN TO MEETING WITH EVERYBODY.
04:32:24PM I WALKED IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAT IN PEOPLE'S HOUSES AND
04:32:27PM HAPPY TO TALK TO ANYBODY ABOUT ANYTHING.
04:32:29PM WANT PEOPLE TO BE TAUPE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS THAT ENGAGES
04:32:33PM THE PUBLIC PROPERLY SO WE CAN GET THE RIGHT SOLUTION.
04:32:36PM I DO NOT WANT TO LOOK AT THE MAPS AND THESE MAPS MAY NO
04:32:40PM LONGER BE VALID, BUT I DON'T WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT
04:32:44PM THIS MAYOR MAY NOT BE HERE WHEN THIS PROJECT IS DONE.
04:32:47PM UP DON'T WANT TO PROVE SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE SAY WHY ARE
04:32:50PM YOU WASTING ALL THIS MONEY AND WE ARE STILL GETTING FLOODED.
04:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:32:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MISS HURTAK, I WAS GOING TO SPEAK THE WAY
04:32:59PM YOU DID AND BRING IT UP.
04:33:01PM PARKING.
04:33:02PM A LOT OF PARKING IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA IN THE PARKING SPACE IN
04:33:07PM EVENINGS.
04:33:07PM WE HAVE SOME OTHER PLAN TO KEEP THOSE -- KEEP THOSE PARKING
04:33:12PM SPOTS OPEN AND HAVE A TRANSFER SHUTTLE BETWEEN US AND THEM
04:33:15PM AND THE -- AND SOLVED FOR MUCH LESS MONEY.
04:33:20PM IT WILL BE GREAT TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO HELP US.
04:33:23PM THAT IS THE BUSINESS.
04:33:24PM TO CREATE THE TAXES THAT KEEP THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING;
04:33:27PM HOWEVER, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IF THE CITY CAN WAIVE THE
04:33:30PM PARKING FEES AND BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT IT IS DOING TO HELP
04:33:34PM THE CITY.
04:33:34PM I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
04:33:36PM I SAW A BUS THE OTHER DAY BELONGED TO -- I AM NOT GOING TO
04:33:41PM SAY WHO -- BUT A BRAND-NEW BUS THAT SITS 60 PEOPLE AND OTHER
04:33:45PM BUSES 12, 15 THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE.
04:33:48PM YOU CAN BORROW THAT AND 20 OR 30.
04:33:50PM I AM NOT GOING TO BE THE DRIVER.
04:33:52PM LET ME GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
04:33:54PM I DON'T DRINK, BUT I ALSO DON'T DRIVE VERY WELL.
04:33:57PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS WE CAN DO THOSE THINGS, I BELIEVE.
04:34:00PM AND MAKE IT WORK IF WE WORK TOGETHER WITH THE BUSINESSES AND
04:34:04PM WITH THE CITY TO SAY, THIS IS 150 SPACES TO ARE WHATEVER YOU
04:34:08PM HAVE, WE CAN USE THESE AND, YOU KNOW -- I THINK IT COULD
04:34:11PM WORK.
04:34:12PM I REALLY DO.
04:34:13PM I THINK THAT IS JUST PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE.
04:34:16PM YOU CAN LOOK INTO IT.
04:34:17PM SPEAKING TO THE YOUNG LADY RUNS THE OPERATION HOW MANY
04:34:22PM SPACES ARE NEEDED.
04:34:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE ARE OPEN TO ALL KIND OF CREATIVE SOLUTIONS
04:34:28PM AS IS THE CONTRACTOR.
04:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BHIDE ON NOVEMBER 18, YOU HAVE A
04:34:34PM MULTINEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
04:34:34PM IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?
04:34:36PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S CORRECT.
04:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PARKLAND SOUTH, PARKLAND NORTH.
04:34:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THIS WATER SHED.
04:34:44PM BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
04:34:45PM NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
04:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
04:34:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: GREAT QUESTION.
04:34:54PM I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
04:34:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
04:35:00PM SIR?
04:35:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: BAYSHORE BAPTIST CHURCH.
04:35:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 6:00 BAYSHORE BAPTIST CHURCH NOVEMBER
04:35:08PM 18.
04:35:09PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR.
04:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:35:11PM COUPLE OF THINGS VERY BRIEFLY.
04:35:13PM WE TALKED OF SWANN AND DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
04:35:15PM IF WE WERE TO DO IT HERE, WOULD HAVE CHALLENGES OF SWANN AND
04:35:20PM RIGHT BACK TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
04:35:22PM RIGHT BACK.
04:35:23PM BECAUSE YOU THINK SWANN WILL GO, OH, BRING IT ON.
04:35:26PM THAT IS GREAT.
04:35:26PM NO.
04:35:27PM YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGES.
04:35:29PM MY MESSAGE AGAIN THAT MILTON FOR ME CHANGED A LOT OF THINGS
04:35:33PM IN TERMS OF HOW WE SEE THINGS.
04:35:35PM IT DID.
04:35:36PM I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU ALL.
04:35:38PM CHANGED ME IN TERMS OF THE THINGS I HAVE THAT SEEN.
04:35:40PM I HAVE BEEN -- WHEN IT COMES TO MY AREA NORTH TAMPA, I HAVE
04:35:44PM BEEN RELENTLESS IN WORKING WITH PEOPLE OUT THERE, ETC.
04:35:48PM BECAUSE -- BECAUSE SEEING THINGS -- THINGS I HAVE SEEN
04:35:53PM HAVE JUST -- CHANGED ME.
04:35:54PM I DON'T WANT TO -- HAVING SEEN THOSE THINGS PASS BY LIKE
04:36:00PM THIS TO IMPROVE THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
04:36:02PM AGAIN, WE GO DOWN SWANN.
04:36:04PM WE LOOK AT WHATEVER, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE CHALLENGES AND
04:36:09PM TAKE SOMEBODY OFF.
04:36:10PM NATURE OF THE BUCK STOPPING RIGHT HERE.
04:36:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:36:14PM THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION.
04:36:15PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE AND EVERYBODY WHO SPOKE THIS MORNING
04:36:19PM AND WHO IS WATCHING.
04:36:20PM ALL RIGHT.
04:36:21PM WE WILL GO TO ITEM 75.
04:36:23PM A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
04:36:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION, IF I MAY.
04:36:30PM DOES THIS COME BACK TO US IN NOVEMBER?
04:36:32PM DO WE NEED A MOTION ON IS IT?
04:36:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS ON THE AGENDA.
04:36:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOOD.
04:36:36PM SO WE DON'T --
04:37:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, SIR.
04:37:03PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, DAVID INGRAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
04:37:11PM TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
04:37:13PM WOW, WE MET -- LIKE WE HAD A CONVERSATION LAST WEEK.
04:37:17PM I AM GLAD IT WAS SO MEMORABLE FOR YOU.
04:37:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APOLOGIZE.
04:37:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE THIS BODY, IT IS GOOD NOT TO BE
04:37:25PM RECOGNIZED.
04:37:26PM >> SOME DAYS, UNDER THE RADAR.
04:37:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ASK ABBYE.
04:37:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS THE TIE.
04:37:34PM >> I CAN TAKE IT UP.
04:37:36PM AN OVERVIEW OF THE ADVERTISING CONTRACT THAT WAS ISSUED LAST
04:37:39PM MONTH.
04:37:39PM TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND.
04:37:41PM AN EXISTING SIGN PACKAGE IN THE BUILDING A LITTLE OVER TEN
04:37:45PM YEARS.
04:37:45PM 15 LOCATIONS WITH MONITORS IN IT THAT CAN PUT UP DIGITAL
04:37:49PM ADVERTISING.
04:37:49PM LITTLE OLD.
04:37:50PM LITTLE OUTDATED.
04:37:52PM WE ALSO HAVE AV PROVIDER ENCORE IS THE ONE THAT MANAGED FOR
04:37:59PM US.
04:38:00PM THEIR GOAL IS TO RENT AV EQUIPMENT TO OUR CLIENTS.
04:38:03PM NOT MANAGING A DIGITAL NETWORK.
04:38:05PM SHOWN BY THE REVENUES.
04:38:07PM LESS THAN 5% OF WHAT THEY BRING IN FOR THE OVERALL REVENUE
04:38:11PM FOR THE YEAR.
04:38:11PM WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO AFTER TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION,
04:38:15PM UPGRADE FOR TECHNOLOGY, THE NEED FOR US TO HAVE A PERSON
04:38:19PM SELLING AND MANAGING THE SIGNAGE TO INCREASE REVENUE AND TO
04:38:22PM BASICALLY PROVIDE AN UPDATED CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE FOR US AT
04:38:25PM THE CENTER.
04:38:26PM WE WANTED TO ISSUE AN RFA IN CAPTURED WHOLE THING.
04:38:32PM AUGUST OF '23, WE ISSUED OUR RFP.
04:38:36PM WE HAD THREE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED.
04:38:38PM OF THOSE THREE BIDS, ALL QUALIFIED AND MOVED TO THE
04:38:41PM PROCUREMENT COMMITTEE BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2023.
04:38:44PM EXPERT DIGITAL IS THE ONE THAT WON ITS AWARD AND BASE AND ON
04:38:50PM THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, RESPONSIVENESS THEY RECEIVED THE
04:38:55PM HIGHEST SCORE FROM THE PROCUREMENT THE COMMITTEE.
04:38:57PM TOURING THAT TIME, NEGOTIATED A CONTRACT THROUGH PURCHASING.
04:39:00PM LEGAL REVIEW IT AND FINANCE REVIEW IT AS WELL.
04:39:03PM AND CAME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL BACK IN SEPTEMBER 2024 TO BE
04:39:06PM APPROVED FOR -- FOR US TO GO AHEAD.
04:39:08PM IT IS A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO INITIAL OPTIONAL YEARS
04:39:14PM FOR RENEWAL.
04:39:15PM LOOKING AT IT THE OVERALL, A TOTAL OF A FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM.
04:39:19PM AT THE END OF THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER INTO OCTOBER 2024, WE
04:39:23PM DID START INSTALLATION PROCESS.
04:39:25PM PHASE ONE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ALL THE DIGITAL SIGNAGE OVER
04:39:28PM OUR EXHIBIT MALL WILL BE COMPLETED.
04:39:30PM AND ACTUALLY I HAVE REALLY GOOD NEWS.
04:39:32PM THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE ONE THAT IS CURRENTLY UP AND
04:39:36PM RUNNING OVER THE WEST AND CENTRAL HALL.
04:39:38PM OPINION IT IS VERY DYNAMIC.
04:39:40PM IT HAS A HUGE IMPACT WHEN YOU WALK UP THE STAIRS AND INTO
04:39:45PM THE UNIT.
04:39:45PM THE EAST HALL AND WEST HALL WAS COMPLETED.
04:39:50PM PROGRAMMING WILL BE FINISHING A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF AND
04:39:54PM BEFORE THE DEADLINE OF DECEMBER WHICH IS GREAT NEWS FOR US.
04:39:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WILL THEY BE NEXT WEEK FOR THE NLC?
04:40:03PM >> PUT ME ON THE SPOT, WOW.
04:40:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: KEEP GOING.
04:40:06PM >> WE ARE TRYING OUR BEST REALISTICALLY.
04:40:08PM WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO -- THREE EVENTS ALREADY FUTAG,
04:40:15PM IMMORTAL SEATS AND THE TATTOO SHOW.
04:40:17PM WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DISRUPT THEM.
04:40:20PM PROGRAM, WE WILL TRY TO DO IT BEHIND THE SCENES AND WITH
04:40:24PM TECHNOLOGY, WE MAY HAVE TO ADJUST SOME THINGS.
04:40:27PM FINGERS CROSSED.
04:40:28PM THE TWO EXTERIOR ONE WILL BE DONE.
04:40:30PM BUT ONE CENTER UP AND RUNNING -- UP AND RUNNING SINCE I --
04:40:37PM YOU HAVE TO COME OUT AND SEE IT.
04:40:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL COME OUT.
04:40:41PM >> GOT IT.
04:40:42PM TOTAL CHANGE FOR THE FEEL CENTER.
04:40:45PM A COUPLE OF OBJECTIVES IN THIS CONTRACT.
04:40:48PM INCREASE THE DIGITAL FOOTPRINT FOR THE CENTER AND SERVICES
04:40:52PM FOR OUR CLIENTS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, LOOK AT ADDITIONAL
04:40:55PM REVENUE SOURCES WE COULD POTENTIAL A LEGAL GET IN THIS
04:41:00PM DISPLAY.
04:41:00PM KEY COMPONENT TO HAVE ONE PERSON DO IT AND ON-SITE DEDICATED
04:41:06PM TO SELL TO LOCAL BUSINESSES, CLIENTS THAT HAVE ADVERTISING.
04:41:10PM AND CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUES, THEY ARE THERE TO TAKE CARE OF
04:41:14PM IT.
04:41:14PM THE OTHER PART ON THE SLIDE, PART OF THE CONTRACT THEY ARE
04:41:18PM REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN, OPERATE, REPAIR AND REPLACE THE
04:41:21PM SIGNAGE.
04:41:21PM HAVING SOMEBODY ON-SITE ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT AND TAKES THE
04:41:26PM BURDEN OFF THE CENTER AND THE CITY AND MAKE SURE IT IS TAKEN
04:41:30PM CARE OF.
04:41:30PM A REVENUE SHARE 45% OF THE GROSS SALES OF THE SIGNS COME
04:41:38PM BACK TO THE CENTER.
04:41:38PM 20% OF TEMPORARY AND MOBILE SIGNS THEY RENT TO OUR CLIENTS
04:41:42PM AND WANT TO THROW IT IN THERE FOR TEMPORARY MOBILE.
04:41:44PM IF YOU HAVE ALL BEEN TOP A CONVENTION BEFORE, LARGE METER
04:41:48PM BOARD THAT ARE USUALLY PAPER AND TAKE UP A LOT OF THE SPACE.
04:41:51PM OUR CLIENTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO RENT DIGITAL ONES THAT CAN
04:41:54PM BE MOVED AROUND AND HAVE THAT SAME INFORMATION.
04:41:56PM WE WILL GET 25% OF THAT.
04:41:57PM WE DON'T HAVE A GREAT STRUCTURE FOR -- OR THE PAST HISTORY
04:42:01PM FOR HAVING -- HAVING DETAILED INFORMATION ON REVENUE.
04:42:03PM SO WE DID A REALLY ULTRACONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS FOR FIRST
04:42:09PM THREE YEARS.
04:42:10PM YEAR ONE 200,000 AND BY THE TIME YEAR THREE, 285,000 THAT WE
04:42:15PM ARE PROJECTING.
04:42:15PM VERY CONSERVATIVE.
04:42:17PM REVENUE SHARE IS $95,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND $128,000 FOR
04:42:24PM THE YEAR -- FOR YEAR THREE.
04:42:25PM FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE, WE DID NOT PROJECT OUT BECAUSE WE
04:42:29PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD HISTORY BEFORE WE MOVE
04:42:31PM FORWARD WITH THAT.
04:42:32PM OTHER COMPONENT, AS IT RELATES TO THIS, THIS IS ALL SALES.
04:42:36PM IF SALES GO UP, REVENUES GO UP, OUR COMMISSION GOES UP.
04:42:40PM IF THEY GO DOWN, WE ARE STILL GOING DOWN AT THAT POINT IN
04:42:43PM TIME.
04:42:43PM THE OTHER KEY COMPONENT FOR THE CONTRACT IS CAPITAL
04:42:49PM CONTRIBUTIONS.
04:42:49PM A ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION FOR CAPITAL, INVEST $161,000 FOR
04:42:57PM HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE FOR THE DIGITAL SIGN PACKAGE IN THE
04:43:00PM CENTER.
04:43:00PM NICE THING ABOUT THAT.
04:43:02PM AND I KNOW -- THERE IS AN AD IN HERE BETWEEN 11 TO 15 SIGNS.
04:43:07PM MINIMUM WE ARE LOOKING TO SPEND FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
04:43:11PM WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO WHEN WE FIND THE BEST LOCATIONS FOR
04:43:14PM IT, LOCATIONS DAYCARE TAPE SIZE.
04:43:16PM SIZE STATES COST AND OUT OF THAT $161 THOUSAND IN.
04:43:20PM BUT NICE THING NOT COMING OUT OF US BUT FROM THE COMPANY AS
04:43:25PM PART OF THEIR CAPITAL CONTRIBUTION.
04:43:27PM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, ANNUAL MARKETING FUND THEY ARE FOLLOWING
04:43:31PM CONTRIBUTE $1,000 ANNUALLY.
04:43:34PM $10,000, USE IT WITHIN THE YEAR FOR THE YEAR AND WE CAN'T
04:43:38PM ROLL IT OVER AND IT HELPS WITH THE MARKETING CAMPAIGN
04:43:40PM OPINION IF YOU SEE THE OLD SIGN ON THERE.
04:43:42PM WHAT I REALLY LIKE TO POINT OUT.
04:43:45PM COMPLETELY DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ARE IN PERSON, BUT THE OLD
04:43:48PM SIGN IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
04:43:49PM THE OLD SIGN IS DIGITAL.
04:43:51PM TRULY AMAZING.
04:43:53PM GRAPHICS ON THERE.
04:43:54PM WE HAVE THE PORT INVASION FOR GASPARILLA AND REALLY DYNAMIC
04:44:00PM WHEN THEY COME IN.
04:44:00PM THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
04:44:01PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
04:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL?
04:44:06PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:44:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:44:08PM JUST -- I -- I AM JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING WITH
04:44:13PM THE MONEY YOU GET --
04:44:16PM IN DO YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR -- SO -- SO OUR CONTRIBUTIONS --
04:44:20PM WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?
04:44:21PM >> THE REVENUE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET HELPS
04:44:24PM RUN OUR OPERATING SUBSIDIES.
04:44:28PM IT DOESN'T COME BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND MAKE IT A ONE FOR
04:44:31PM ONE EXPENSE.
04:44:32PM $1,000,000 COMES IN, IT HELPS TO COVER THE EXPENSES FOR THE
04:44:38PM CENTER COVER EVERYTHING FROM LABOR TO UPDATES TO MAINTENANCE
04:44:40PM REPAIRS.
04:44:41PM IT IS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
04:44:42PM NOT A DEFINED $90,000 GOING RIGHT TO THIS.
04:44:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.
04:44:48PM THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO PAY FOR -- PAY FOR YOURSELF
04:44:51PM BASICALLY.
04:44:53PM >> WE ARE TRYING.
04:44:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: VERY COOL.
04:44:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:44:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:44:59PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
04:45:00PM AND THANK YOU FOR THE TOUR.
04:45:01PM IT IS ABSOLUTELY STUNNING.
04:45:03PM IT JUST UPLIFTS THE -- THE CONVENTION MALL.
04:45:07PM WONDERFULLY AS -- YOU KNOW, AS YOU ENTER INTO THE PARTICULAR
04:45:12PM CORRIDORS.
04:45:13PM THE -- THE ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS -- IS THIS THE SAME
04:45:18PM COMPANY THAT IS GOING TO -- YOU KNOW THE BIG SIGN OUTSIDE
04:45:21PM THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY BEING USED.
04:45:24PM >> THE MARQUEE FROM THE CENTER?
04:45:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MARQUEE.
04:45:27PM IS THIS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENT PROCESS?
04:45:29PM >> YES AND NO.
04:45:30PM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO IS BACK IN 2019, THIS BUDGET ALLOW
04:45:35PM US TO SPEND $175,000 TO RENOVATE THE MARQUEE.
04:45:38PM AT SOME POINT IN TIME BETWEEN COVID HAPPENING THAT PROJECT
04:45:41PM GOT SHELVED AND THE PRIORITY BECAME TO HAVE THE EXPANSION
04:45:46PM COMPLETED.
04:45:46PM SO WHAT GOING TO DO TO TAKE THE $175,000 BUDGETED FOR THE
04:45:52PM MARQUEE AND MAKE THE INVESTMENT INTO THE MARQUEE.
04:45:54PM WE ARE GOING TO USE THEIR SOFTWARE TO BE ABLE TO RUN WHAT IS
04:45:57PM ON THAT SIGNAGE.
04:45:59PM AND THE SAVING GRACE TO THAT TWO-FOLD IS WE DON'T HAVE TO
04:46:02PM WORRY OF A TECHNICIAN COMING OUT TO PUT THAT ON THERE.
04:46:06PM NUMBER TWO, ALL BASED ON THE CODE, THE CURRENT SIGN CODE IS
04:46:11PM WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ADJUST
04:46:15PM EVERYTHING.
04:46:16PM SAVING GRACE SHOULD THE SIGN CODE CHANGE, WE WILL HAVE TO
04:46:20PM MEET THE SIGN CODE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
04:46:22PM IF ANYTHING CHANGES, WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO UPDATE THAT.
04:46:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. JUST SO YOU KNOW, YOU NO LONGER HAVE
04:46:31PM TO EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE NOT A ENTERPRISE ZONE BUSINESS IN THE
04:46:35PM CONVENTION CENTER.
04:46:37PM THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT TO ME LAST WEEK.
04:46:40PM YOU ARE OFF THE HOOK.
04:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NICE JOB ON IT.
04:46:43PM OBVIOUSLY THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS THAT DATED 1980s LOOK.
04:46:47PM THIS IS ONE WAY TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE MORE MODERN AND
04:46:51PM PIZAZZ TO IT.
04:46:53PM CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
04:46:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE YOU CONSIDERING PAINTING OUTSIDE?
04:46:58PM I AM JUST CURIOUS.
04:46:59PM >> YOU WILL TAKE ALL MY SURPRISES.
04:47:02PM YOU WANTED TO DO THIS PERIODICALLY.
04:47:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL TAKE UP THAT ON ANOTHER DAY.
04:47:06PM >> JUST A QUICK PIECE.
04:47:08PM WE DID -- WE ARE GOING TO DO THE -- SORRY, THE CAMPUS
04:47:12PM ASSESSMENT FOR EXTERNAL AND INTERIOR.
04:47:16PM PART IS PRICE.
04:47:18PM NOT JUST PAINT, STICK PAINT ON TO IT, A PRODUCT FROM THE
04:47:23PM RIVERWALK THAT SEALS THE CONCRETE AND MAKES IT SMOOTH AND
04:47:27PM HAVE AT THAT BETTER COLOR TO IT.
04:47:29PM I AM NOT SURE THE PINK OR WHATEVER COLOR YOU CALL IT IS
04:47:33PM THERE, BUT THAT IS THE INTENT TOP GET RID OF IT.
04:47:35PM TO PUNT THIS IN THE OVERALL CIP MASTER PLAN INSTEAD OF DOING
04:47:40PM ONE-OFFS HERE AND THERE.
04:47:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD THING NOT '70s, AVOCADO GREEN.
04:47:49PM IT WAS '70s, IT WOULD BE COMING BACK.
04:47:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
04:47:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR OUR BUDGET ANALYST FOR
04:47:58PM ENGAGING.
04:48:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:48:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT YOU WERE STALKING HIM.
04:48:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WANTED TO GET ON CAMERA, DENNIS ROGERO,
04:48:13PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
04:48:14PM MY THANK YOU TO THE CONVENTION CENTER OF PROACTIVE SEEKING
04:48:19PM OF ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND THANK YOU FOR BRINGING COUNCIL
04:48:24PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
04:48:25PM SUPPLEMENTAL FINANCE THAT MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE BEEN
04:48:31PM DISCUSSING.
04:48:31PM AND THIS IS PARTICULARLY RELEVANT IN THIS CASE AND OTHER
04:48:34PM CASES IN THE CITY.
04:48:35PM AND THOSE ARE THE LIMITS WE HAVE ON ENJOYING REVENUE SHARING
04:48:39PM FOR OUR ASSETS.
04:48:44PM THE PRIVATE ACTIVITY TEST AND TRIGGERED BY DIFFERENT
04:48:51PM COMPONENTS.
04:48:51PM FIRST COMPONENT IS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
04:48:54PM A CONVENTION CENTER IS A PUBLIC FACILITY.
04:48:59PM SECOND YOU USE TAX EXEMPT DEBT TO EXPAND THAT ASSET IN SOME
04:49:05PM WAY FOR THAT ASSET.
04:49:06PM IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
04:49:09PM LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD -- LET ME KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT
04:49:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE IT IS.
04:49:30PM CAN YOU SEE THAT OKAY, COUNCIL.
04:49:40PM HERE IS THE SECOND TRIGGER.
04:49:42PM HAVE YOU ENJOYED TAX EX- EXEMPT FINANCING ASSOCIATED WITH
04:49:47PM THIS ASSET, AND WE HAVE.
04:49:49PM HERE IS THE CURRENT STATE.
04:49:50PM NEARLY $45 MILLION.
04:49:52PM I WILL NOTE AND OVER ON THE RIGHT.
04:49:54PM THE BALANCE IS ZERO.
04:49:55PM WE OBLIGATED THE FUNDING IN ITS ENTIRELY BUT WE ARE STILL
04:49:59PM MAKING THOSE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT THIS IS
04:50:02PM ON THE PUBLIC ACCESS AND THE THIRD COMPONENT AND THAT IS
04:50:12PM SEVERELY RESTRICT CAN HOW MUCH WE CAN ENJOY THE PRIVATE
04:50:17PM BUSINESS.
04:50:18PM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S REVENUE SHARING.
04:50:21PM I WILL LOOK TO THE ELMO AGAIN.
04:50:25PM A COVER PAGE TO THE GOVERNMENT FINANCIAL ASSOCIATION PRIMER
04:50:30PM ON TAX EXEMPT DEBT.
04:50:33PM DEVELOPING AND IMPLEMENTING PROCEDURES FOR POST ISSUANCE,
04:50:37PM ETC., ETC.
04:50:38PM IT IS AS RIVETING AS IT LOOKS.
04:50:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS A VERY GUIDO JOKE.
04:50:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TAKING LESSONS, TAKING LESSONS.
04:50:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DIDN'T GET IT.
04:50:54PM [LAUGHTER]
04:50:56PM JUST SAYING.
04:50:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SPOILER ALERT.
04:50:59PM IT IS NOT RIVETING.
04:51:00PM NOT RIVETING AT ALL.
04:51:03PM WHAT IT BOILING DOWN TO, NO MORE THAN 10% ARISING FROM OR
04:51:09PM RELATING TO PRIVATE BUSINESS USE.
04:51:11PM AND THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE PRIVATE BUSINESS USE IS THE
04:51:14PM REVENUE SHARING.
04:51:15PM SO -- AND A LITTLE BIT -- A LITTLE BIT OF BEHIND THE SCENES
04:51:20PM WHAT WE DO IN FINANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY, AS AN
04:51:23PM ENTITY, IS ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW.
04:51:25PM IF YOU EXCEED THE 10% THRESHOLD, THE BONDS LOSE THE TAX
04:51:33PM EXEMPT.
04:51:34PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT YOU NOT HAPPEN PAUSE IT IS
04:51:37PM VERY, VERY VALUABLE TO US.
04:51:39PM AND VERY VALUABLE TO OUR INVESTORS.
04:51:41PM LITTLE MORE TRIVIA.
04:51:43PM WHY DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DO THIS?
04:51:46PM BECAUSE IN THE ABSENCE OF THE RESTRICTIONS YOU CAN ISSUE TAX
04:51:50PM EXEMPT DEBT AND CONSTRUCT PRIVATE SECTOR BUSINESSES AND REAP
04:51:54PM THE PROFITS.
04:51:55PM EXACTLY WHICH I WOULD LOVE FROM A REVENUE PRODUCING
04:52:00PM PERSPECTIVE, BUT THAT IS BASICALLY PUTTING THE THUMB A
04:52:02PM LITTLE TOO HEAVY ON ITS SCALE FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
04:52:05PM PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THEY LIVE US THIS TAX EXEMPT BENEFIT
04:52:11PM UNDER THE PROMISE THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR PRIMARILY
04:52:14PM PUBLIC PURPOSE.
04:52:16PM AND THAT IS WHAT I AM -- THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO
04:52:19PM INTERSECT HERE.
04:52:19PM SO EVERY YEAR, WE RUN THE NUMBERS, WE COMPLICATE THE
04:52:23PM INFORMATION, WE REVIEW THE INFORMATION.
04:52:25PM NOT JUST MY SHOP, BUT OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, OUR BOND
04:52:33PM COUNSEL, FEDERAL EXPERTS SO WE DON'T MEET OR EXCEED THAT
04:52:38PM TEST.
04:52:39PM WE CAN OWNED MAKE SO MUCH MONEY -- AND AGAIN, THAT IS WHY I
04:52:43PM PARTICULARLY COMPLIMENT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR CONTINUING
04:52:47PM PRO ACTIVITY ON THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING
04:52:50PM IS IN BALANCE BECAUSE OF THAT TAX EXEMPT DEBT.
04:52:53PM BEHIND THE SCENES INFORMATION AS WE -- AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY
04:52:56PM TO EXPAND COUNCIL AND PUBLIC'S EDUCATION ON PUBLIC FINANCE.
04:53:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:53:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVER A SITUATION WHERE THE CITY ISSUES
04:53:09PM NONTAX EXEMPT DEBT.
04:53:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU MEAN TAXABLE DEBT?
04:53:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAXABLE DEBT.
04:53:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
04:53:18PM WE ISSUED SOME IN THE PAST AND PARTICULAR
04:53:27PM CRITERIA.
04:53:27PM THE TAX DEBT AND IT IS INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING LARGE
04:53:32PM INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THROUGHOUT -- THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.
04:53:36PM AND IF WE FOUND THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE MORE
04:53:40PM ADVANTAGEOUS FROM A FINDING PERSPECTIVE TO ISSUE TAXABLE
04:53:44PM VERSUS TAX EXEMPT, WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND DO THAT AND
04:53:47PM TYPICALLY GRAVITATE TO THE TAX EXEMPT FOR THE BENEFITS THAT
04:53:52PM WE GET FROM IT.
04:53:53PM >> I MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT DURING THE LINE OF BUSINESS
04:53:56PM THAT WE HAVE, THAT THERE IS SOME DEBT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
04:53:58PM AND NEVER AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXCEED THESE LIMITATIONS WITH
04:54:02PM THESE RULES?
04:54:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: KIND OF EBBS AND FLOWS.
04:54:07PM FOR INSTANCE, WE WILL HAVE AN ASSET WITH TAX EXEMPT AND WE
04:54:11PM PAY IT OFF AT WHICH CASE THIS RESTRICTION GOES AWAY.
04:54:15PM UNTIL OR IF WE DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THIS.
04:54:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
04:54:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:54:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, ALL.
04:54:24PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
04:54:25PM THANK YOU.
04:54:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABBYE FEELEY IS UP WITH ITEM NUMBER 76.
04:54:29PM YES, MA'AM.
04:54:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
04:54:40PM ABBYE FEELEY.
04:54:41PM AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROCESS.
04:54:45PM WE ARE IN THE ASSESSMENT PHASE.
04:54:47PM YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD A PUBLIC KICKOFF SEPTEMBER 16.
04:54:50PM AT THAT KICKOFF, WE HAD 80 PEOPLE ONLINE AND CLOSE TO 90
04:54:56PM PEOPLE IN PERSON.
04:54:57PM SO WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT FOR THAT MEETING.
04:55:00PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE POSTED AN ONLINE SURVEY LEADING UP
04:55:04PM TO THE KICKOFF AND CEMENT THAT OPEN AFTER THE KICKOFF ON
04:55:08PM OCTOBER 1.
04:55:08PM WE HAD CLOSE TO 500 RESPONSES TO OUR ONLINE SURVEY WHICH WAS
04:55:13PM REALLY AWESOME.
04:55:14PM THE CONSULTANT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE ASSESSMENT
04:55:19PM PORTION IN THE TIMELINE THAT COMES BEFORE WE GET THE FIRST
04:55:23PM DRAFT OF THE CODE.
04:55:24PM IN OUR ASSESSMENT THEY TELL US WHAT IS UPDATED AND PROPOSE
04:55:29PM HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REORGANIZE IT AND SOME OF THE PROPOSED
04:55:32PM THINGS THAT WOULD BE IN IT.
04:55:33PM THAT IS -- WITH STAFF RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE REVIEWING THAT.
04:55:36PM AND IT IS -- IT IS FIVE CHAPTER DOCUMENT.
04:55:40PM ONCE WE PROVIDE OUR COMMENTS BACK, THAT WILL THEN GO TO THE
04:55:44PM ADVISORY TEAM THAT WE HAVE.
04:55:45PM REMEMBER THE ADVISORY TEAM IS MADE UP OF TWO MEMBERS FROM
04:55:50PM T.H.A.N.
04:55:50PM AN A TENT, A LANDSCAPER, A NATURAL RESOURCES PERSON, WE
04:55:56PM HAVE NAIP, NTVA, LAND USE ATTORNEY.
04:56:03PM A 12-MEMBER TEAM THAT WE ARE ALSO USING TO PROVIDE ANOTHER
04:56:07PM LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND INVOLVEMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
04:56:11PM WITH THIS BEING SAID, LOOKING TO HAVE OUR NEXT PUBLIC
04:56:14PM MEETING AND HAVE THE ASSESSMENT PRESENTED AND FEEDBACK TAKEN
04:56:18PM BY THE PUBLIC LAST WEEK OF JANUARY.
04:56:20PM THAT TUESDAY NIGHT THAT YOU HAVE NOW SET THE BAYSHORE
04:56:24PM REZONING HEARING FOR.
04:56:26PM SO I AM GOING TO MOVE THE PUBLIC MEETING OUT TO FEBRUARY 4.
04:56:32PM I WOULD REQUEST OF COUNCIL -- WHAT I WAS THINKING THAT WE
04:56:37PM DID IT THAT WEEK OF JANUARY.
04:56:39PM YOU HAD A WORKSHOP THAT WEEK AND HELPING TO HAVE THE
04:56:42PM CONSULTANT COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION TO YOU AT THE
04:56:46PM WORKSHOP TO SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
04:56:48PM SHARE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WITH YOU INSTEAD OF JUST
04:56:51PM THE UPDATES I AM PROVIDING TO YOU.
04:56:54PM SO I WOULD ASK IF POTENTIALLY FEBRUARY 6, WHICH I UNDERSTAND
04:56:58PM IS A REGULAR MEETING, BUT IF WE CAN HAVE 10 TO 15 MINUTES
04:57:02PM FOR A PRESENTATION JUST SO THAT -- AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO
04:57:06PM ANSWER ME TODAY.
04:57:07PM YOU CAN ANSWER ME NEXT MONTH OR WHATEVER.
04:57:09PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO START TO GET THAT TEED UP, BECAUSE WE DO
04:57:13PM REALLY TRY TO MARKET THESE MEETINGS, PROVIDE INFORMATION
04:57:16PM ABOUT THEM.
04:57:17PM PUT A SURVEY INSTRUMENT UP.
04:57:19PM GET FEEDBACK AND CONTINUE TO BE ENGAGED WITH THE PUBLIC ON
04:57:23PM THIS PROCESS.
04:57:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CLENDENIN --
04:57:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DEFER TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:57:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS FEELEY TALKED TO ME ABOUT THIS.
04:57:32PM THIS IS IT MY MOTION TO HAVE HER COME THE FIRST WEEK OF
04:57:35PM EVERY MONTH.
04:57:36PM THAT HAPPENS TO BE -- FEBRUARY 6 IS WHEN SHE IS ALREADY
04:57:40PM COMING TO APPEAR, BUT WE ARE GOING TO EXPECT A LONGER
04:57:44PM PRESENTATION.
04:57:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS FINE.
04:57:45PM THAT WORKS.
04:57:46PM MR. SHELBY.
04:57:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, RATHER THAN
04:57:49PM JUST SAY A DISCUSSION OF THIS TO GO TEN MEMBERS.
04:57:52PM MAYBE MY SUGGESTION WOULD TO BE LIMIT STAFF REPORTS TO WHAT
04:57:55PM EXISTS TODAY AND NOT ADD TO THE FEBRUARY 6 STAFF REPORTS.
04:57:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A VERY LIGHT AGENDA.
04:58:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL MAKE NOTE OF IT AND SHOW UP -- IT IS
04:58:11PM MR. THERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ADD NICK TO IT.
04:58:15PM OR AMEND SOMETHING THAT HAS A CONSULTANT, YOU HAVE ABOUT I
04:58:18PM THINK WE SHOULD REMAIN MINDFUL AS WE APPROACH THAT WE KEEP
04:58:22PM THAT SO WE DON'T RUN OUT OF TIME.
04:58:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T WE JUST LIMIT IT TO FIVE.
04:58:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD, FEBRUARY 6.
04:58:30PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:58:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MISS FEELEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR
04:58:34PM BRIEFING.
04:58:34PM THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE ABOUT -- ABOUT
04:58:37PM THE LENGTH OF TIME THIS IS GOING TO TAKE THE CITY TO
04:58:40PM ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK.
04:58:41PM I TRIED TO CLEAR THE PORTFOLIO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE LISTENING.
04:58:46PM I WON'T HOLD IT TO US FOR THOSE WHO DON'T MAKE THE DEADLINE.
04:58:50PM MAKE A GUESSTIMATE HOW MUCH WE WILL HAVE A PROCESS TO
04:58:56PM COMPLETE THE PROCESS.
04:58:57PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I HAVE A SCHEDULE AND IT IS IN THE AGREEMENT
04:59:00PM WITH THE CONSULTANT, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME TODAY AND
04:59:04PM MY BRAIN -- I -- I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.
04:59:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL NOT HERE IN --
04:59:11PM >> CAN I BRING THAT SCHEDULE BACK TO YOU WHEN I COME DECEMBER
04:59:15PM 5TH?
04:59:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
04:59:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ON THAT FEBRUARY 6, I AM TRYING TO BE
04:59:22PM EXTREMELY MINDFUL OF THE BUDGET WITH THE CONSULTANT.
04:59:24PM THEY WILL DO THAT TUESDAY NIGHT MEETING.
04:59:26PM WEDNESDAY WE WILL DO WORK AND THURSDAY MORNING WE WILL
04:59:29PM PRESENT TO YOU, AND I WILL HAVE HIM HERE.
04:59:32PM WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE A TIME CERTAIN SO THEY CAN MAKE
04:59:36PM ARRANGEMENTS.
04:59:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY CHARGE BY THE HOUR.
04:59:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO A TIME CERTAIN DIRECTLY OF A PUBLIC
04:59:47PM COMMENT.
04:59:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WILL IT BE --
04:59:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: POINT IS TO HAVE THEM IN THE MORNING SO THEY
04:59:54PM CAN LEAVE.
04:59:54PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO THEY THINK GO BACK TO NORTH CAROLINA.
05:00:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
05:00:02PM ATU MEMBER OF THE MONTH.
05:00:04PM AROUND 11:00 -- SO -- I WILL MAKE THE MOTION -- I MOTION
05:00:08PM THAT WE HAVE THE -- THE PRESENTATION -- A TIME CERTAIN RIGHT
05:00:13PM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:00:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
05:00:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
05:00:18PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
05:00:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO TALK OF THE DATE, BUT I HAVE
05:00:30PM ANOTHER QUESTION.
05:00:30PM WE ARE TAKING IT OFF OF THE JANUARY WORKSHOP.
05:00:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I NEVER GOT TO PUT IT ON THERE.
05:00:35PM THAT WAS MY GOAL COMING TODAY.
05:00:37PM AND I THINK LAST -- LAST MEETING WAS WHEN YOU WERE WORKING
05:00:42PM WITH MISS -- I WANTED TO SAY -- MISS WELLS TO GET THAT
05:00:50PM BAYSHORE HEARING SET.
05:00:51PM I WAS TEEING UP IN MY MIND MY SCHEDULE AND GETTING TOGETHER
05:00:55PM WITH THE CONSULTANT THAT HAPPENED.
05:00:57PM AND I NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK AND APPRECIATE YOUR
05:01:02PM FLEXIBILITY TODAY.
05:01:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY ADDITIONAL THING.
05:01:04PM I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE A COPY OF THE CONSULTANTS REPORT
05:01:09PM BEFORE -- AT THE SAME TIME THAT THE CITY RECEIVES THEM.
05:01:12PM IS THERE A WAY WE CAN ALL GET THE E-MAILS OF THE ACTUAL
05:01:16PM REPORT.
05:01:16PM WHATEVER IT IS.
05:01:17PM UP SAID IT IS IN -- I FORGET WHAT YOU CALLED IT.
05:01:20PM A -- A SITUATION -- A SITUATION REPORT?
05:01:23PM WHAT --
05:01:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY ARE DOING THE ASSESSMENT.
05:01:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE CAN GET THAT THE SAME TIME THAT
05:01:30PM EVERYBODY ELSE DOES SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE
05:01:33PM CONSULTANTS HAVE TO SAY AS WELL, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
05:01:42PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: A FIVE-CHAPTER DOCUMENT.
05:01:45PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT CHAPTER BY CHAPTER BECAUSE WE
05:01:49PM HAVE WEEKS TO GET THEM BACK COMMENTS.
05:01:51PM WHEN I PRINT IT BACK TO THEM, IF THERE WERE TYPOS, THOSE ARE
05:01:57PM GOING BACK.
05:01:58PM UP DON'T WANT A PREMATURE VERSION.
05:02:01PM A VERSION THAT GOES TO THE PUBLIC, IS THAT OKAY?
05:02:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSULTANT
05:02:08PM HAS TO SAY.
05:02:09PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE CONSULTANT SAYS.
05:02:12PM AND WE WILL GET TO SEE A SECOND VERSION OF WHEN IT GOES TO
05:02:17PM THE PUBLIC.
05:02:17PM I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT THE CONSULTANT HAPPENS TO SAY.
05:02:20PM I DON'T CARE ABOUT TYPOS AND ALL THAT -- OBVIOUSLY A LAND
05:02:24PM USE PERSON.
05:02:25PM IT IS A PASSION OF MINE.
05:02:26PM I WANT TO SEE EXACTLY --
05:02:29PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WILL YOU BE REVIEWING THAT AND PROVIDING
05:02:32PM COMMENTS?
05:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
05:02:33PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
05:02:35PM THAT IS MY ONLY INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO READ THROUGH IT.
05:02:38PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: OKAY.
05:02:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:02:41PM LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, 77.
05:02:43PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:02:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
05:02:45PM THIS WILL BE A LOT SHORTER, I THINK THAN WHAT I ANTICIPATED.
05:02:51PM LONG STORY SHORT, COUNCIL.
05:02:52PM A LOT OF THINGS DEVELOPING ON THIS ISSUE OBVIOUSLY.
05:02:55PM THE COUNTY COMMISSION EXPRESSED INTEREST GIVEN THE MANY
05:02:59PM ISSUES THAT HAPPENED IN EAST COUNTY, GIVEN THE MANY ISSUES
05:03:02PM HAPPENED IN TOWN AND COUNTRY.
05:03:04PM COUNTY COMMISSIONER PAT KEMP, I BELIEVE IT WAS, MOTIONED TO
05:03:08PM HAVE PARTS OF NORTH TAMPA INCLUDING IN THEIR ASSESSMENT.
05:03:11PM I HAD MET WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR VAUGHN WISE.
05:03:16PM I SPOKEN WITH MR. BHIDE AND ANDREA AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE
05:03:23PM INDEPENDENT INQUIRY, AND AGAIN THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY WILL
05:03:28PM BE BRIEFED NEXT WEDNESDAY ON THURSDAY, HE WILL NEED MORE
05:03:31PM TIME FOR THAT.
05:03:32PM SO YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW THE COUNTY COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 13
05:03:37PM BEING BRIEFED.
05:03:37PM THEY ARE INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY COUNTYWIDE STORMWATER
05:03:41PM INVESTIGATIVE REVIEW POST MILTON AT THAT MEETING AND WHAT
05:03:51PM THE COUNTY COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO DO AND ALL
05:03:54PM OPTIONS ON THE TABLE OF HAVING TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY
05:04:01PM BEING A PART OF THAT.
05:04:02PM NUMBER OF ISSUES, NUMBER ONE, IT WILL COST A LOT OF MONEY A
05:04:08PM LOT OF MONEY TO DO IT AND WE NEED TO GO THROUGH IT NO MATTER
05:04:11PM WHAT IN MY OPINION.
05:04:12PM AND THE ACCOUNT APPEARS TO BE -- AGAIN, MEETING NEXT
05:04:17PM WEDNESDAY, SUPPORTIVE OF INCLUDING THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
05:04:20PM THAT.
05:04:20PM RATIONALE -- COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS THAT ON THE 1st.
05:04:26PM NUMBER ONE, THAT WATER DOES NOT STOP ON THE LINE.
05:04:30PM A LOT OF AREAS LIKE FOREST HILLS WITH A LOT OF COUNTY AND
05:04:33PM CITY.
05:04:33PM UNIVERSITY AREA, DIFFERENT PARTS ALONG NORTH TAMPA AND I AM
05:04:37PM SURE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
05:04:38PM YOU HAVE PUMP THAT ARE ADMINISTERED THAT DEAL WITH CITY
05:04:46PM AREA.
05:04:46PM THE PUMP CHALLENGE THAT HAPPENS WITH FOWLER WAS WITH A
05:04:51PM COUNTY PUMP.
05:04:52PM A LOT OF INTERMINGLING ISSUE THERE IS.
05:04:54PM SO THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO ALONG WITH WHAT I WILL BE
05:04:58PM PRESENTING TO PRESENT TO CITY COUNCIL ON THEIR IDEAS TO MOVE
05:05:02PM FORWARD WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND THEY ARE OPEN ON
05:05:08PM NOVEMBER 1.
05:05:09PM SO THAT IS WHAT I AM SUGGESTING THAT WE DO.
05:05:12PM WE HAVE TO ITEMS THAT DAY THAT I CAN MOVE FOR THAT TO MAKE
05:05:17PM ROOM ON THE CALENDAR.
05:05:18PM I CAN MOVE THEM ON JANUARY, FEBRUARY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO
05:05:22PM MAKE ROOM ON THE CALENDAR.
05:05:23PM OBVIOUS LEAVE PEOPLE IS ALWAYS IN MY DISTRICT -- HOMES HAVE
05:05:28PM BEEN DESTROYED.
05:05:28PM AND THE TOP THING THEY WANT TO KNOW, WHAT DID WE DO RIGHT?
05:05:32PM WHAT DID WE DO POTENTIALLY NOT RIGHT?
05:05:35PM AND FORWARD AND MAKING SURE IT WE HAVE THINGS RIGHT GOING
05:05:39PM FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND FOR ME.
05:05:41PM THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
05:05:44PM THIS IS A LONG PROCESS, BUT I WANT THE PROCESS TO GET
05:05:48PM STARTED AND ASKED FOR NOVEMBER 1.
05:05:50PM WE CAN HAVE IT SAT A TIME CERTAIN.
05:05:52PM WHATEVER IT MAY BE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY TODAY, AGAIN THE FACT
05:05:55PM THAT THE COUNTY IS DOING THEIR THING AND PRESENTING IT NEXT
05:05:58PM WEDNESDAY, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO GO
05:06:01PM FORWARD WITH ANY SUGGESTION.
05:06:03PM THAT IS OUR ASK TO HAVE IT MOVED TO THE 21st.
05:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEXT THURSDAY WE HAVE
05:06:10PM A NIGHT MEETING.
05:06:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:06:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER THEIR WEDNESDAY MEETING.
05:06:14PM PERHAPS GET CLARIFICATION AND TIME CERTAIN.
05:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
05:06:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE WORKED TIRELESSLY IN YOUR
05:06:22PM DISTRICT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN AFFECTED.
05:06:25PM I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
05:06:26PM FOREST HILLS.
05:06:27PM UP MEAN --YOUR WORK IS VERY MUCH APPRECIATED A
05:06:31PM US A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN A LOT OF PANE.
05:06:33PM YES, MA'AM.
05:06:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I AM GOING TO BE TALKING
05:06:37PM OF THE SWAT ANALYSIS THAT I AM ASKING FOR FROM THE CITY.
05:06:39PM AND I'M GOING TO BE ASKING THAT COMES UP US TO ON DECEMBER
05:06:44PM 5, WHICH IS JUST AFTER THAT.
05:06:46PM DO YOU NOT SEE THAT SOMEHOW WORKING ON OR --
05:06:57PM >> WHAT YOU ARE PROPOSING DONE BY CITY STAFF, CORRECT?
05:07:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:07:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT SOMETHING FROM OUTSIDE STAFF.
05:07:05PM NOTHING AGAINST CITY STAFF, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WITH
05:07:08PM DISCUSSIONS HAVING PUBLICLY, I WANT TAMPA OUTSIDE CITY
05:07:12PM STAFF.
05:07:13PM OBVIOUSLY AVENUE GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH CITY STAFF, GIVEN
05:07:18PM THIS LOSS, I INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE CONSULTANT.
05:07:30PM YOURS WILL BE INTERNAL.
05:07:31PM TOTALLY SUPPORT IT BUT I NEED SOMETHING OUTSIDE GIVEN THE
05:07:36PM DEVASTATION.
05:07:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: KNOWING THAT EXTERNAL REPORT IS USE SOME OF
05:07:40PM OUR INTERNAL --
05:07:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
05:07:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THAT CONCLUDES.
05:07:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MAKE THE MOTION.
05:07:47PM MIGHT AS WELL.
05:07:48PM I AM REQUESTING STAFF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROVIDE --
05:07:51PM NOW -- CAN THIS BE -- CAN WE DO IT -- AGAIN, WE WAIVED THE
05:07:57PM RULES FOR THIS BECAUSE IT WAS MAXED OUT.
05:07:59PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT TIME IS OF THE ASH SENSE.
05:08:03PM I CAN DO IT UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND HAVE IT AT A TIME
05:08:07PM CERTAIN OR UNDER CEREMONIAL.
05:08:08PM WE HAVE A COMMENDATION THAT WILL FAKE FIVE MINUTES.
05:08:11PM WHATEVER COUNCIL WANTS.
05:08:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND CORRECT ME
05:08:18PM IF I'M WRONG, BUT MY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT IT IS REALLY
05:08:21PM GOING TO BE WHEN THEY COME ON THE 21st.
05:08:23PM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE COUNTY STAFF APPEAR AND PRIMARILY
05:08:29PM INFORMATIONAL.
05:08:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:08:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT WILL NOT BE A LONG DISCUSSION,
05:08:35PM QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS WITH CITY COUNCIL?
05:08:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK SO.
05:08:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INPUT.
05:08:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY SHOW UP EARLIER RATHER THAN LATER.
05:08:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: WITH A TIME.
05:08:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE THAT, YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO MOVE
05:08:58PM --
05:08:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
05:09:00PM YOU HAVE MY WORD OF HONOR.
05:09:01PM IF YOU LOOK AT NOVEMBER 21, THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE ON
05:09:09PM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
05:09:11PM AND -- YEP, MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND OAK LAWN.
05:09:18PM I WAS GOING TO MOVE THOSE WHEN IT COMES TIME FOR --
05:09:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION, SIR?
05:09:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: ASKING THAT STAFF FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
05:09:29PM MY SELF PRESENT IN THE NOVEMBER 21 MEETING WITH A REVIEW OF
05:09:33PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, AND I
05:09:37PM REQUEST THAT BE HEARD AT A TIME CERTAIN BUT KEPT TO TEN
05:09:42PM MINUTES.
05:09:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
05:09:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
05:09:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:09:49PM MR. SHELBY.
05:09:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOVEMBER 21.
05:09:53PM WOULD YOU PREFER THAT TO BE THE FIRST PRESENTATION UNDER
05:09:57PM PRESENTATIONS AT 9 A.M.?
05:10:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE CAN WORK WITH THE COUNTY ON THAT.
05:10:02PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD.
05:10:04PM I WILL HAVE TO CHECK WITH BRANDON ON THAT.
05:10:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:10:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:10:11PM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
05:10:13PM I WILL HAND THE GAVEL OVER TO THE CHAIR PRO TEM IF I BELIEVE
05:10:18PM MAKE SOME NEW BUSINESS.
05:10:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DON'T MAKE ME USE IT.
05:10:21PM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
05:10:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:10:24PM YOU ARE SO GRACIOUS.
05:10:26PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS TO MAKE.
05:10:27PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING A COMMENDATION TO
05:10:30PM JACOB BUCKMAN, ALSO KNOWN AS BOOKIE BUCKMAN AS TEN YEARS OF
05:10:36PM SERVICE AS CODE ENFORCEMENT MAGISTRATE.
05:10:38PM THIS WILL BE PRESENTED OFFSITE AT A FUTURE DATE TO BE
05:10:42PM DETERMINED ARE.
05:10:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
05:10:46PM SECOND -- -- A SECOND -- EXCUSE ME, YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
05:10:51PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:10:53PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, AYE.
05:10:54PM OPPOSED NAY.
05:10:56PM AYES HAVE IT.
05:10:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:10:58PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION
05:11:02PM OFFSITE AT THE WEST TAMPA AWARDS TO THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE.
05:11:06PM SANDY SANCHEZ, WHO IS WEST TAMPA'S WOMAN OF THE YEAR.
05:11:09PM AND ALSO A GOOD FRIEND OF MANY HERE.
05:11:12PM LEE ALVAREZ, WEST TAMPA MAN OF THE YEAR.
05:11:16PM ANOTHER GOOD FRIEND AND GREAT COMMUNITY ASSET.
05:11:19PM AND BOB GARCIA, WHO WILL BE RECEIVING THE GEORGE GUIDO
05:11:25PM MEMORIAL RECIPIENT.
05:11:26PM I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED FOR A LONG TIME.
05:11:28PM ALL THREE ARE WONDERFUL AND WELL DESERVING.
05:11:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:11:34PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:11:36PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:11:37PM OPPOSED.
05:11:38PM AYES HAVE IT.
05:11:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CITY COUNCIL RENOVATIONS.
05:11:41PM I MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE WHILE AGO OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
05:11:44PM THEY WANTED TO SPEND AND MOVING THE CHAMBERS.
05:11:47PM EVERYBODY HAD UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER TO TALK TO ADRI
05:11:50PM COLINA INVOLVING THIS PRODUCT.
05:11:52PM DUE TO OTHER PRESSING MATTERS WE ARE DEALING WITH IN THE
05:11:55PM CITY, ESPECIALLY THE PAST TWO HURRICANES, I AM SUGGESTING
05:11:58PM TABLE IT UNTIL FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
05:12:00PM I WILL SET A DATE TO BRING IT BACK.
05:12:03PM NOTHING HAPPENING.
05:12:04PM IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU HAVEN'T MET WITHER HAD.
05:12:07PM A LOT OF MONEY AND BIG CHANGES.
05:12:08PM THEY WANT TO MOVE THE CHAMBERS DOWNSTAIRS.
05:12:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ALREADY MADE MY COMMENTS.
05:12:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL BRING THIS UP IN FEBRUARY.
05:12:15PM NO MOTION.
05:12:16PM JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW.
05:12:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
05:12:20PM YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BACK.
05:12:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:12:25PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, ANYTHING ELSE?
05:12:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, A FEW.
05:12:27PM FIRST OFF, LET ME MOVE ON NOVEMBER 21, I ASKED STAFF TO
05:12:31PM REPORT WITH A PLAN OF ACTION FOR KEEPING LOCAL CEMETERIES
05:12:35PM CLEAN, WELL THE FOWLER VISION PLAN.
05:12:38PM AND I APOLOGIZE, I GOT TO LOOK FOR THE DATE.
05:12:41PM HOW ABOUT 23rd -- JANUARY 23rd.
05:12:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN HAVE AS MANY AS WE WANT.
05:12:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: HE WILL DO THE MEMORIAL AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING
05:12:57PM ELSE.
05:12:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONE ABOVE IT IS YOURS.
05:13:00PM POLO OCCASION OF THE FIRE SUPPLY FACILITY.
05:13:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO I WILL MOVE THAT.
05:13:06PM BUT LET ME TALK TO CHIEF TRIPP.
05:13:08PM SOME, YEAH, DOWNPAYMENT ON THAT ONE.
05:13:11PM BUT -- BUT WITH THIS ONE WITH MEMORIAL PARK TIM CEMETERY,
05:13:17PM LET ME DO IT FOR -- DARN IT.
05:13:21PM 6.
05:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
05:13:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:13:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:13:33PM OPPOSED?
05:13:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
05:13:35PM Y'ALL HAD GOTTEN A MEMO FROM THIS.
05:13:38PM MANY OF Y'ALL -- ALL OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE LAKE
05:13:44PM HARRISON BOONSTOPPLE KILLED YBOR CITY ON OCTOBER 29, IF I
05:13:49PM RECALL THE DATE, OF 2023.
05:13:51PM I COMPLIED WITH THE APPLICABLE ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO
05:13:56PM DISCLOSING HIS NAME, HIS BACKGROUND.
05:13:58PM WE HAVE STATEMENT, LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM TOM PEPIN, STATE
05:14:02PM SENATOR, FORMER STATE SENATE PRESIDENT TOM LEE, NUMEROUS
05:14:07PM DISABILITY ACTIVISTS, CLAY, GUTMAN, ETC., TO RENAME THE ALL
05:14:13PM ABILITIES AFTER THE LATE HARRISON BOONSTOPPLE.
05:14:17PM STRONG SUPPORT FROM HIS FAMILY.
05:14:19PM I CAME INTO CONTACT, I GUESS IF YOU WILL, WITH THE FAMILY.
05:14:22PM THE LATE HARRISON WAS A STUDENT AT PEPIN ACADEMY AND I SPOKE
05:14:29PM AT HIS GRADUATION WELL BEFORE HIS PASSING.
05:14:32PM THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY IN SUPPORT OF IT.
05:14:33PM HE WAS JUST -- YOU SAW THE LETTER AN AMAZING YOUNG MAN ON
05:14:37PM FOUGHT FOR EVERY INCH OF THE PLAYING FIELD IN LIFE AND PEPIN
05:14:41PM ACADEMY GRADUATE.
05:14:43PM IF I MAY COME BACK MARCH 27, 2025.
05:14:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
05:14:49PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:14:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:14:51PM THANK YOU, SIR.
05:14:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: QUICKLY, IF I MAY, TWO QUICK THINGS.
05:14:55PM MR. BHIDE TALKED OF A MOTION I DID ON THE PUMP GENERATORS.
05:14:59PM AND I CAN'T FIND IT ON STAFF, MAYBE I DIDN'T -- YEAH
05:15:08PM MAYBE I DIDN'T DO IT PROPERLY.
05:15:09PM I DON'T KNOW.
05:15:10PM BUT -- SO LET ME REMAKE -- LET ME MAKE THE MOTION.
05:15:14PM FINALIZE IT.
05:15:16PM GOD ONLY KNOWS.
05:15:17PM SO I HAD -- I HAD WANTED TO DO A MOTION.
05:15:20PM MAYOR CASTOR HAS TALKED ABOUT FUNDING BACK-UP GENERATORS.
05:15:25PM I THINK THE NUMBER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS $4 MILLION
05:15:28PM FOR THIS.
05:15:28PM SO I WANT A MOTION TO HAVE CITY STAFF COME FORWARD WITH A
05:15:34PM PLAN OF ACTION ON BACK-UP PUMP GENERATORS INCLUDING FUNDING
05:15:39PM AND OTHER -- AND I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON MAKE IT ON SOUTH
05:15:44PM TAMPA I AM TALKING OF NORTH TAMPA, SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
05:15:48PM SO MY MOTION IS FOR BACK-UP PUMP GENERATORS AS WELL AS
05:15:52PM SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR THE CHALLENGES IN -- IN NORTH
05:15:56PM TAMPA.
05:15:56PM AND IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE ON -- ON -- LET'S DO
05:16:04PM FEBRUARY 6, PLEASE.
05:16:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS FULL NOW.
05:16:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS?
05:16:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO WE HAVE A SECOND.
05:16:16PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:16:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
05:16:19PM WASN'T THIS PART -- IT WASN'T PART OF THE DISCUSSION ON THE
05:16:24PM SWOT ANALYSIS?
05:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: WAS IT?
05:16:28PM WHEN IS THAT COMING BACK?
05:16:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE 5th.
05:16:33PM NOT PART OF MY MOTION.
05:16:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THOUGHT IT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
05:16:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PART OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT I DID NOT SPECIFY
05:16:39PM IT IN THE MOTION.
05:16:40PM I DON'T BELIEVE IT WILL COME BACK WITH THE DETAILS OF THE
05:16:43PM MONEY.
05:16:43PM THE SWOT IS SUPPOSED TO BE QUICK --
05:16:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN IS THAT SWAT REPORT, COUNCILWOMAN?
05:16:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE 5th OF DECEMBER.
05:16:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: GUESS WHAT, IF WE DEAL WITH IT THEN, I WILL
05:16:56PM WITHDRAW IT.
05:16:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS FAR AS LIKE FAILURES AND
05:17:00PM OPPORTUNITIES.
05:17:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU HAUL MY WORD.
05:17:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MENTION NOT COMING TO US ON
05:17:06PM COUNCIL, BUT COMING TO US ON E-MAIL FORM.
05:17:08PM NOT PART OF COUNCIL.
05:17:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
05:17:11PM >> I THINK A SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THE GENERATORS.
05:17:15PM MOST OF THE PLACES IN SOUTH TAMPA HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS BUT A
05:17:19PM SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THE GENERATORS.
05:17:21PM PAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE BUDGET ITEM.
05:17:24PM AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT IS AN ISSUE.
05:17:26PM IT IS WORTH HAVING THAT SEPARATELY ON THE AGENDA.
05:17:29PM MY MOTION I WAS GOING TO MAKE TO HAVE THE STAFF GIVE US --
05:17:33PM HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS OVERALL.
05:17:37PM BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS DO THAT.
05:17:39PM THIS IS A SPECIFIC THING.
05:17:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR BACK-UP AGAIN REAL ISSUES.
05:17:51PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
05:17:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:17:56PM WHAT DATE, FEBRUARY --
05:17:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: FEBRUARY 5 OR 6th.
05:18:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY ONLY SUGGESTION.
05:18:09PM THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
05:18:12PM THE GENERATOR ARE A CITYWIDE THING AND SHOULD BE SEPARATELY
05:18:17PM IN CASE THEY -- DIFFERENTLY.
05:18:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
05:18:20PM MY MOTION IS TWO TIERED.
05:18:22PM NORTH TAMPA FLOODING ISSUES.
05:18:24PM BACK-UP GENERATORS CITY WIDE WILL BE $4 MILLION.
05:18:28PM THEY, MY INTENT.
05:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:18:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.
05:18:36PM ANYTHING ELSE.
05:18:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: A REPORT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
05:18:39PM I MENTIONED AND I COULD COULDN'T GENT A SECOND TO HAVE FUNDS
05:18:42PM FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO HELP PEOPLE SHORT TERM, BECAUSE
05:18:45PM FEMA, TO ME, IS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY.
05:18:47PM IF YOU WANT A SUIT, THE SUIT, TIE, BELT.
05:18:53PM YOU GOT TO GET THE REST.
05:18:54PM AND I STILL SUPPORT THAT.
05:18:57PM AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT.
05:18:58PM BUT AS A COMPROMISE, I WANT THE STAFF REPORT TO US IN A
05:19:02PM WRITTEN REPORT ON WHAT FEMA MONIES CAN -- IF THERE ARE FEMA
05:19:08PM MONEYS THAT THE CITY CAN GET AS A PASS THROUGH TO THE CITY
05:19:11PM TO HELP PEOPLE WITH THESE GAPS THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING
05:19:16PM GUYS, I AM TALKING TO PEOPLE EVERY DAY HAVING TO SELL THEIR
05:19:19PM HOMES TO VULTURES AND WHO ARE GOING HUNGRY.
05:19:22PM IT'S -- IT'S TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE.
05:19:25PM SO LOOK AT THAT AS A WRITTEN REPORT.
05:19:28PM THE NEXT AVAILABLE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE HAVE.
05:19:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO A NOVEMBER 21.
05:19:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FIRST, IT IS NOT ENOUGH TIME BECAUSE THEY WILL
05:19:38PM HAVE TO GET THE REPORT IN TOMORROW.
05:19:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 5.
05:19:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
05:19:42PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
05:19:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
05:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:19:47PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:19:48PM OPPOSED.
05:19:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THAT.
05:19:51PM LIKE YOU ALL, I AM DEALING WITH HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE A DAY.
05:19:54PM AND -- AND THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE FRUSTRATED ABOUT FEMA.
05:19:58PM THE -- KATHY CASTOR'S OFFICE AS FINAL RESORT AGREED TO LOOK
05:20:07PM AT IT AND TRY TO HIM THEM.
05:20:09PM THE VERY DIFFICULT ONES REJECTED OVER AND OVER.
05:20:13PM HER OFFICE HAS BEEN HELPING.
05:20:15PM YOU MAY KNOW HER AND TALK ABOUT THEM ABOUT THAT.
05:20:18PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO FEMA, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE
05:20:20PM TO HELP.
05:20:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ACTUALLY WAS AT A FEMA LOCATION IN EAST
05:20:28PM COUNTY WITH LAURA LEE.
05:20:29PM SO I KNOW SHE HAS BEEN FAMILIAR AND HER OFFICE IS WORKING
05:20:33PM WITH IT WELL.
05:20:34PM YOU CAN HAVE SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
05:20:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
05:20:38PM IF IT IS NORTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA, CONGRESSWOMAN LEE.
05:20:42PM OTHER WILL BE CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR.
05:20:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONGRESSWOMAN LEE WAS ENGAGED AND HAD HER
05:20:52PM STAFF TO FAMILIARIZE HER WITH THE PROCESS AN CONSTITUENCY.
05:20:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE.
05:21:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
05:21:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
05:21:04PM NEW BUSINESS?
05:21:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO NOT HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS.
05:21:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:21:09PM HOW ABOUT YOU, SIR.
05:21:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A STATEMENT.
05:21:12PM I WANT TO REIT MATE MY SUPPORT OF CITY STAFF AND
05:21:16PM SPECIFICALLY SOLID WASTE FOR THE -- FOR THE JOB THAT THEY
05:21:19PM ARE DOING POST STORMS.
05:21:22PM THE CHALLENGE IS TREMENDOUS.
05:21:23PM THERE IS A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AROUND THE CITY.
05:21:27PM THEY ARE WORKING TIRELESSLY.
05:21:30PM OUR STAFF -- MANY OF THEM INCLUDING OUR LEADERS HAD DAMAGE
05:21:34PM AS WELL, BUT THEY SHOWED UP TO WORK TO HELP -- HELP BRING
05:21:37PM THE CITY BACK TO LIFE.
05:21:39PM AND I THINK -- WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER AREAS OF THE
05:21:42PM STATE THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANES, WE ARE -- WE ARE
05:21:45PM REALLY HUMMING ALONG.
05:21:48PM WE ARE COMPETING FOR -- FOR HELP FROM EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT
05:21:51PM THIS CITY IS REALLY RECOVERING AT A RAPID PACE.
05:21:55PM AN, AGAIN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT SOME OF THE
05:21:58PM ADJOINING JURISDICTIONS THAT WERE IMPACTED AND YOU WILL FIND
05:22:01PM -- YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB.
05:22:05PM A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE AND CITY STAFF HAS DONE AGREE JOB.
05:22:09PM APPLAUD THEM AND EXCEEDED ANY EXPECTATIONS I WOULD HAVE HAD
05:22:13PM OF THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CITY AFTER TWO DEVASTATING STORMS.
05:22:16PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH ON BEHALF OF MY HOME, MY FAMILY, MY
05:22:20PM FRIENDS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ENTIRE CITY, I THINK WE
05:22:22PM OWE YOU A DEBT OF GRATITUDE.
05:22:24PM THANK YOU.
05:22:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HEAR, HEAR.
05:22:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:22:29PM ABSOLUTELY.
05:22:30PM EVERYBODY HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY.
05:22:32PM SO I WANT TO AMEND MY MOTION I ORIGINALLY MADE OCTOBER 17,
05:22:39PM 2024.
05:22:39PM THAT MOTION THAT STAFF BE REQUESTED TO PROVIDE HURRICANE
05:22:42PM HELENE AND MILTON'S SWAT ANALYSES BY NOVEMBER 8.
05:22:46PM THEY ASKED FOR MORE TIME.
05:22:48PM SO I AM ACTUALLY ASKING FOR TWO SEPARATE THINGS NOW.
05:22:51PM BECAUSE CHIEF BENNETT WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOT WASH, WHICH
05:22:56PM IS ACTUALLY AN AFTER ACTION REPORT.
05:22:58PM I AM GOING TO ASK FOR EACH OF THOSE.
05:23:00PM CHIEF TRIPP TO SHARE THEIR AFTER ACTION REPORT FROM HELENE
05:23:05PM AND MILTON TO CITY COUNCIL TO BE DELIVER BY E-MAIL BY
05:23:10PM DECEMBER 2, 2024.
05:23:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:23:13PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:23:16PM FAVOR.
05:23:17PM OPPOSED.
05:23:18PM YES, MA'AM.
05:23:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HURRICANE HELENE AND MILTON SWAT ANALYSIS NO
05:23:24PM MORE THAN TWO PAGES FROM EACH DEPARTMENT.
05:23:26PM NO MORE THAN ONE PAGE REPORT TO LIVED BY E-MAIL BY DECEMBER
05:23:32PM 5, 2024.
05:23:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:23:35PM SECONDED BY VIERA.
05:23:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO STAFF.
05:23:41PM ENOUGH TIME?
05:23:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, TO GO THROUGH --
05:23:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:23:48PM OPPOSED.
05:23:49PM YES, MA'AM.
05:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALREADY TALKED TO MR. BAIRD ABOUT THIS.
05:23:53PM AND THIS IS FINE.
05:23:54PM A PROJECT THAT MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON TO
05:23:59PM LOOK AT LARGER PROJECTS AND SEE HOW -- WE SEE THE BEGINNING,
05:24:03PM BUT WE DON'T LOOK AT THE END AND SEE HOW WELL WE HAVE DONE
05:24:06PM IF WE ARE ON BUDGET AND ALL THIS STUFF.
05:24:08PM IT IS A LITTLE LONG AND I HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN BUT DON'T
05:24:12PM WORRY.
05:24:13PM I MOTION THAT STAFF CREATE A FIVE-MINUTE IN-PERSON REPORT TO
05:24:16PM PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE SOON-TO-BE COMPLETED OF THE LOWER
05:24:21PM PENINSULA WATERSHED PROJECT.
05:24:22PM THIS OVERVIEW, THE PROJECT APPROVAL TIMELINE FROM 2019-2024
05:24:29PM TO THE COST COMPONENTS FOR DESIGN SERVICES, INCLUDING
05:24:32PM AMENDMENTS, GMP AGREEMENT AND ANY CHANGE ORDERS WITH
05:24:38PM KIMMINS.
05:24:38PM ADDITIONAL WORK EFFORT THAT CONSUME THE $400,000 CITY
05:24:42PM CONTROLLED AND $3 MILLION KIMMIN CONTROLLED CONTINGENCY.
05:24:47PM FOUR, DETAILS OF NON KIMMINS COST.
05:24:52PM AND DELIVERABLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
05:24:55PM LINEAR FEET OF CULVERT, POND DRAINAGE, ROAD RESURFACING,
05:25:00PM PARK AMENITIES.
05:25:01PM AND KEY IMPLEMENTATIONS FROM VENDOR.
05:25:05PM SEVEN, FINANCIAL COMPARISON TO BUDGET FOR PROJECT NUMBER
05:25:09PM 1000570.
05:25:10PM EIGHT, OPTIONS FOR USE OF UNUSED CAPITAL FUND, IF NIL.
05:25:14PM NINE, SOFT AND HARD BENEFITS THE CITY CAN EXPECT FROM THIS
05:25:18PM INVESTMENT.
05:25:18PM TEN, ANY OTHER PERTINENT DETAILS THAT STAFF BELIEVES TO BE
05:25:22PM HELPFUL.
05:25:22PM I REQUEST THE DATE NOR PRESENTATION DECEMBER 19, 2024.
05:25:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:25:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
05:25:29PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:25:31PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:25:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE ANY OPPOSED?
05:25:35PM THIS IS REGARDING WHICH PROJECT?
05:25:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOWER PENINSULA WATER SHED PLAN PROJECT THAT
05:25:41PM KIMMINS.
05:25:46PM SO, YES, MISS COPESKY AND I HAVE ASKED FOR THESE FOR A
05:25:51PM COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS, AND IT IS KIND OF -- AND WE HAVE
05:25:55PM BEEN WORKING WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THEY ARE
05:25:57PM HAPPY TO DO IT AND HAVE ALL THE INFO.
05:26:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
05:26:01PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:26:02PM YOU HAVE QUITE A FEW?
05:26:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE FOUR.
05:26:05PM I THINK IT IS THE SAME AS OTHER PEOPLE NOW.
05:26:07PM THE FIRST ONE IS THE SHORT-TERM THING.
05:26:10PM AND -- WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF DATES OF NOW.
05:26:13PM ALL THE DATES THAT I LOOKED AT ARE FILLED.
05:26:15PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO IT ON THE 19th.
05:26:18PM MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF
05:26:23PM FINDING SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY PREVENT
05:26:26PM RAINFALL FLOODING IN THE AREAS WHERE IT OCCURRED DURING THE
05:26:29PM RECENT STORMS.
05:26:29PM EXAMPLE WILL BE TO DREDGE THE CANALS AND STORMWATER POND ON
05:26:34PM AZEELE AND TO REMOVE THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION IN FOUNTAIN
05:26:38PM PARK.
05:26:38PM THESE IDEAS AND OTHERS TAILORED TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD CAN
05:26:43PM PREVENT FLOODING OVER THE THREE TO FOUR YEARS THAT LONGER
05:26:46PM TERM SOLUTIONS CAN BE BUILT.
05:26:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:26:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT ON THE 19th.
05:26:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL RIGHT, DECEMBER 19.
05:26:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS FOR --
05:26:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANTED HIM TO REPEAT IT.
05:27:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTION ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON DECEMBER
05:27:03PM 19 AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF FINDING SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS
05:27:06PM THAT WOULD IMMEDIATELY PREVENT RAINFALL FLOODING IN THE
05:27:09PM AREAS WHERE IT OCCURRED DURING THE RECENT STORMS.
05:27:12PM THERE WAS FLOODING FROM STORM SURGE.
05:27:15PM THIS IS JUST THE RAINFALL PART.
05:27:17PM EXAMPLES WOULD BE TO DREDGE THE CANALS AND STORM PONDS NORTH
05:27:23PM OF AZEELE AND MEMORIAL HOSPITAL AND REMOVE THE CONCRETE
05:27:26PM FOUNDATION IN FOUNTAIN PARK.
05:27:28PM THESE IDEAS AND OTHERS TAILORED TO EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OF
05:27:33PM WHICH LONGER SOLUTIONS WILL BE BUILT.
05:27:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAD SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THAT
05:27:39PM NEIGHBOR DOWN IN PALMA CEIA WITH THE DITCHES.
05:27:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE WERE JUST TWO EXAMPLES THERE -- TWO
05:27:47PM EXAMPLES AND DOESN'T STICK US TO ANY OF THOSE.
05:27:49PM IT SOUNDS LIKE VIK AND I HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND
05:27:54PM SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS A BUNCH OF IDEAS ALREADY.
05:27:56PM BIGGEST QUESTION -- WE THOUGHT A STORM WAS COMING THIS WEEK.
05:28:01PM WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO -- NOT THE CITY BUT WHAT ARE YOU
05:28:04PM GOING TO DO TO STILL TO COME STOP THE FLOODING IN MY
05:28:08PM NEIGHBORHOOD NOW.
05:28:08PM WE NEED TO ANSWER THAT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
05:28:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
05:28:12PM A SECOND?
05:28:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:28:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:28:15PM OPPOSED.
05:28:16PM THANK YOU, SIR, THAT WAS GREAT.
05:28:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE MORE.
05:28:19PM THE OTHER ONE I SENT OUT WAS ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY STUDY.
05:28:24PM WE TALKED TO SOME STAFF.
05:28:26PM WE TALKED TO CONSULTANTS.
05:28:28PM SOUNDS LIKE THE TREE CANOPY UPDATE JUST TO DO A SMALL UPDATE
05:28:32PM OF THE TREES AND THE CURRENT STATUS IS $10,000 TO $20,000.
05:28:37PM IF THE CITY CAN'T FIND IT, I WILL PAY IT MYSELF.
05:28:40PM THE ISSUE IS THAT, NUMBER ONE, BY JUST LOOKING AROUND WE
05:28:47PM LOST 10% TO 20% OF OUR TREE CANOPY IN SOUTH TAMPA IN THE
05:28:52PM LAST MONTH.
05:28:53PM THE PRO-TREE PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND SO WE CAN
05:28:56PM RESET.
05:28:57PM WE CAN'T WEIGHT TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE THE NEXT BIG PLAN
05:29:00PM COMES UP.
05:29:00PM WE NEED A BIG UPDATE TO SEE WHERE WE STAND.
05:29:04PM NUMBER TWO, WE -- WE -- THE -- WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT REMEMBER
05:29:09PM THE LAST TIME THEY PRESENTED.
05:29:11PM THEY SAID, WELL, BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED SO MUCH
05:29:14PM DEVELOPMENT, WE LOST 4% OF OUR TREE CANOPY.
5:29:15PM WELL, IF THE NEXT REPORT IN TWO YEARS COMES BACK AND SAYS WE
5:29:17PM LOST 20%, THEN EVERYBODY IS GOING TO SAY THAT WAS BECAUSE OF
5:29:19PM DEVELOPMENT.
5:29:20PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW IS FIND OUT HOW MUCH DO WE LOSE JUST
5:29:23PM BECAUSE OF THE STORMS AND THAT WILL SET A NEW PRECEDENT.

5:29:26PM WE CAN CHANGE THE DATES OR WHATEVER YOU GUYS WANT.
5:29:29PM I MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COMPLETE AND UPDATE THE TREE CANOPY
5:29:33PM STUDY SUMMARY AND PROVIDE COUNCIL WITH A WRITTEN REPORT FOR
5:29:36PM THE MAY 1st, 2025, SESSION.
5:29:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
5:29:39PM SECOND.
5:29:40PM YES, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:29:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OH, MY GOSH, THE TREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
5:29:47PM HATE ME.
5:29:48PM I THINK THE INTENT IS GOOD, BUT WE HAVE SO MUCH -- SO MANY
5:29:52PM PROBLEMS WITH STORM RECOVERY RIGHT NOW.
5:29:54PM AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE LET UP.
5:29:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: OUTSOURCED TO USF.
5:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITHOUT ANYTHING FROM STAFF AT ALL?
5:30:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: USF SAID THE PICTURES EXIST AND ALL THEY HAD
5:30:07PM TO DO IS ANALYZE IT.
5:30:08PM SOME ALGORITHM FOR ANALYZING IT.
5:30:10PM SURE SOME STAFF INPUT, BUT IT'S JUST ENGAGING THE CONTRACTOR
5:30:15PM TO MOVE.
5:30:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE RIGHT.
5:30:17PM I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT WE STILL WON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE
5:30:20PM BECAUSE SOME OF THE TREES WERE SO BADLY DAMAGED, THEY ARE
5:30:24PM GOING TO AND WON'T KNOW THAT FOR A WHILE.
5:30:26PM I'M SURE USF IS CAPABLE.
5:30:28PM I WITHDRAW MY OBJECTION.

5:30:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S GREAT.
5:30:30PM AS YOU SAY, THE BLAME WILL FALL ON US AND IT CAN'T BE WITH
5:30:35PM OVERDEVELOPMENT OR APPROVING OR NOT APPROVING PROJECTS.
5:30:37PM THIS STORM TOOK OUT SO MANY TREES.
5:30:41PM MOTHER NATURE'S WORK, NOT WHAT CITY COUNCIL DID.
5:30:44PM IT'S GOOD TO HAVE AN UPDATED ANALYSIS.
5:30:48PM IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE UPDATE.
5:30:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:30:50PM AYE.
5:30:51PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:30:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
5:30:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TWO MORE.
5:30:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
5:30:57PM THE NEXT ONE IS ABOUT SEAWALLS.
5:31:00PM I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.
5:31:01PM MAYBE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD.
5:31:03PM SUDDENLY A CONSTITUENT REACHED OUT TO ME AND THEN HIS WHOLE
5:31:06PM CONDO REACHED OUT.
5:31:08PM LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY PEOPLE WENT OUT
5:31:10PM AND LOOKED AT IT.
5:31:12PM THERE IS A BARGE THAT COMES UP TO THE SEAWALL IN DAVIS
5:31:15PM ISLANDS AND A BIG TRUCK COMES UP FULL OF CONSTRUCTION
5:31:18PM EQUIPMENT.
5:31:19PM THEY OFF-LOAD -- THIS IS NOT A COMMERCIAL DOCK.
5:31:23PM IT IS A REGULAR SEAWALL IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND

5:31:25PM THEY ARE UNLOADING EQUIPMENT ONTO THE BARGE AND THEN THE
5:31:29PM BARGE GOES OVER TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
5:31:32PM WE HAVE U.S. ARMY CORPS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
5:31:35PM AND NOBODY CAN FIND THAT ANYBODY IS PERMITTED TO DO IT.
5:31:39PM THE PROBLEM IS THE GUY WHO ORIGINALLY REACHED OUT TO ME HAS
5:31:42PM A SERIOUS, SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE AND THEY ARE MAKING LOUD
5:31:45PM NOISES EARLY IN THE MORNING, LATE AT NIGHT BUT ALSO IT
5:31:48PM DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE PERMITTED AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND
5:31:51PM OF DAMAGE THESE THINGS MIGHT DO.
5:31:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
5:31:57PM RETURN WHATEVER DATE ON DECEMBER 19 TO DISCUSS THE
5:32:00PM POSSIBILITY OF CREATING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT THE
5:32:02PM COMMERCIAL USE OF SEAWALLS OR DOCKS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS
5:32:07PM EXCEPT IN LOCATION SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED FOR COMMERCIAL
5:32:10PM USE, ANY POSSIBLE ORDINANCE WOULD ALSO REGULATE THE TYPE OF
5:32:13PM USAGE, HOURS OF OPERATION, SOUND REQUIREMENTS AND ANY NEED
5:32:16PM FOR A PERMIT.
5:32:18PM >> SECOND.
5:32:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S VERY UNUSUAL.
5:32:20PM GOES FROM DAVIS ISLANDS TO HARBOUR ISLAND.
5:32:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
5:32:23PM PIRATE TAXI ALSO GOES THERE AND NOBODY OPPOSED THE PIRATE
5:32:26PM TAXI.
5:32:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT IT'S NOT NOISY.
5:32:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME PERMITTING PROCESS.

5:32:32PM IT'S WEIRD -- IT'S NOT A DOCK.
5:32:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
5:32:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON HARBOUR
5:32:43PM ISLAND.
5:32:44PM THEY ARE UNLOADING HUGE EQUIPMENT FROM A TRUCK ONTO A BARGE
5:32:49PM AT DAVIS ISLAND AND THEN THEY TAKE IT OVER TO HARBOUR ISLAND
5:32:52PM AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
5:32:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
5:32:54PM AYE.
5:32:55PM WHO WAS THE SECOND?
5:32:56PM SECOND FROM HURTAK.
5:32:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST ONE, SAVE THE MOST CONTROVERSIAL
5:33:01PM ONE LAST, JACKSON HOUSE.
5:33:02PM YOU ALL KNOW THAT IN 2012, ERNEST HOOPER ASKED ME TO MEET
5:33:07PM WITH WILLIE ROBINSON.
5:33:08PM I MET WITH HIM.
5:33:09PM HE HAD A LETTER FROM THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION SAYING THEY
5:33:11PM WERE GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE JACKSON HOUSE A WEEK LATER AND
5:33:15PM FINE $60,000 PLUS THE COST OF TEARING DOWN THE JACKSON
5:33:19PM HOUSE.
5:33:19PM I CALLED LINDA SAUL-SENA WHO CAME INTO CITY COUNCIL NEXT
5:33:22PM DAY.
5:33:23PM I THINK TWO OR THREE OF YOU WERE ON CITY COUNCIL AT THE
5:33:25PM TIME.
5:33:25PM THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE TIME OVERTURNED THE DECISION AND

5:33:28PM SAVED THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:33:30PM GROUP OF US THEN TRIED TO SAVE IT AND THE ADMINISTRATION
5:33:33PM FOUGHT US.
5:33:34PM SINCE THEN, A FOUNDATION HAS CONTROLLED IT AND THEIR FAMILY
5:33:38PM MEMBERS ON THE FOUNDATION.
5:33:40PM YOU ALL REMEMBER THE CHAIR OF THE FOUNDATION WAS HERE A YEAR
5:33:43PM AGO AND I ASKED HER PUBLICLY, I ASKED HER PRIVATELY FIRST
5:33:47PM AND THEN PUBLICLY, CAN YOU COME BACK IN TWO MONTHS AND
5:33:50PM PRESENT AN UPDATE ON WHAT YOUR RENOVATION PLAN IS.
5:33:54PM SHE SAID YES.
5:33:55PM SHE THOUGHT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TIME.
5:33:57PM EVERY MONTH THEREAFTER, WHILE ALIS WAS STILL HERE, HE BEGGED
5:34:02PM HER TO COME RESCHEDULE.
5:34:04PM EVERY MONTH THEY CANCELED.
5:34:07PM EVERY WEEK AND ESPECIALLY AROUND STORMS SOMEBODY POST A
5:34:10PM PICTURE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE AND SAY WHY ISN'T CITY COUNCIL
5:34:13PM DOING SOMETHING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE?
5:34:15PM USF IS READY TO HELP.
5:34:17PM TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER IS READY TO HELP.
5:34:19PM ALL WE NEED IS THE JACKSON HOUSE AND DEALS ARE DONE -- TIRED
5:34:27PM OF GETTING BLAMED FOR IT.
5:34:28PM WE NEED THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO STEP UP.
5:34:31PM YOU SAW THAT SOMEBODY SENT ME AN E-MAIL TODAY.
5:34:33PM I TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
5:34:36PM WE'VE HAD 13 YEARS OR SO OF WAITING FOR THEM TO DO

5:34:41PM SOMETHING.
5:34:41PM THEY HAVE DONE VERY LITTLE.
5:34:42PM AND ALL OF IT WAS YEARS AGO.
5:34:44PM WE THROUGH THE CRA BOARD OFFERED A MILLION DOLLARS.
5:34:47PM JEFF VINIK GAVE THEM A MILLION DOLLARS AND WE'RE STILL
5:34:49PM WAITING FOR THEM TO EVEN TELL US WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
5:34:52PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS START THE PROCESS OF AT LEAST
5:34:57PM PUTTING OUT FINES OR LEVYING SOMETHING SO WE CAN TAKE
5:35:01PM CONTROL OF IT.
5:35:02PM IF WE DON'T TAKE CONTROL, IT WILL FALL DOWN.
5:35:04PM THE CARDIES WOULD PROBABLY BE HAPPY WITH THAT, RIGHT?
5:35:07PM THE FOUNDATION IS NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE CARDIES, WHY
5:35:10PM SHOULD WE LET THIS THING FALL DOWN WHEN THE CARDIES HAVE
5:35:13PM GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO ALLOW THIS SPACE TO HAVE THEM TO
5:35:16PM OPERATE THIS?
5:35:17PM EVERYBODY IS READY TO DO SOMETHING BUT THE FOUNDATION WON'T
5:35:21PM WORK.
5:35:21PM IF WE SET UP A DATE TO HAVE THE STAFF COME UPDATE US ON THE
5:35:24PM POSSIBILITY OF CONDEMNATION AND THE JACKSON HOUSE
5:35:27PM FOUNDATION, I'LL SEND AN E-MAIL TO THE LADY AFTER THIS, IF
5:35:30PM THEY WANT TO COME HERE AND PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN,
5:35:33PM NOT PRESENT EXCUSES, PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN, THEN WE
5:35:37PM CAN ACCEPT THAT AND CANCEL THIS.
5:35:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON
5:35:41PM DECEMBER 19 AS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY LEVYING FINES

5:35:45PM AND/OR CONDEMNING THE JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY WITH THE
5:35:47PM PURPOSE OF TAKING IT OVER BEFORE A STORM DESTROYS IT.
5:35:51PM ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WOULD
5:35:54PM THEN WORK WITH USF, THE HISTORY CENTER AND JACKSON HOUSE
5:35:58PM FOUNDATION TO RENOVATE AND REBUILD THE STRUCTURE.
5:36:01PM CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD HAVE BEEN ASKING THE JACKSON
5:36:04PM HOUSE FOUNDATION -- I'LL LEAVE THE REST OF IT OUT.
5:36:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:36:10PM I WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
5:36:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME HERE.
5:36:12PM I WANT TO THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
5:36:15PM ON THIS.
5:36:16PM I THINK YOUR THOUGHTS ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT.
5:36:19PM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS -- SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE DONE.
5:36:23PM IF NOT THIS, THEN SOMETHING, MAYBE THIS WILL PROVOKE ACTION
5:36:27PM TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
5:36:28PM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
5:36:29PM YOU'VE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION THROUGHOUT
5:36:33PM THE CITY, UNION STATION AND JACKSON HOUSE ARE TWO OF YOUR
5:36:36PM PROJECTS.
5:36:37PM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD TODAY.
5:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, THANK YOU AS WELL.
5:36:42PM I'LL TELL YOU THAT WHEN I GOT ELECTED IN 2015, WHICH YOU
5:36:45PM SUPPORTED ME, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY
5:36:48PM NARROW RACE, IT WAS A SHORT GAP BETWEEN ELECTION NIGHT AND

5:36:51PM GETTING SWORN IN.
5:36:52PM I HAD ORIENTATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
5:36:53PM THE FIRST MEETING I HAD WAS WITH THE PREVIOUS MAYOR AND THE
5:36:57PM FIRST THING OUT OF MY MOUTH, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE?
5:37:00PM WELL, IF YOUR HOUSE OR MY HOUSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
5:37:03PM DEMOLISHED A LONG TIME AGO.
5:37:05PM NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE.
5:37:08PM IT'S GOTTEN WORSE.
5:37:09PM I'VE BEEN DOCUMENTING THIS MYSELF, GOING, TAKING PICTURES.
5:37:12PM BEFORE I GOT ELECTED, SINCE GETTING ELECTED, AND I WAS ABLE
5:37:16PM TO GET A TOUR ONE DAY.
5:37:18PM I HAVE THE PICTURES, WHICH THEY ARE FASCINATING PHOTOS
5:37:21PM BECAUSE EACH ROOM IS A DIFFERENT COLOR.
5:37:23PM THE ELECTRICAL PANEL IS USING FUSES THAT ARE FROM THE
5:37:29PM 1970s BUT INSIDE IT IS WOODEN TRUSSES THAT ARE KEEPING IT
5:37:33PM HELD UP.
5:37:34PM WE'RE IN A TROPICAL CLIMATE.
5:37:37PM THERE ARE BROKEN WINDOWS.
5:37:38PM IT RAINS.
5:37:39PM THE HUMIDITY IS DAMAGING ALL THAT WOOD.
5:37:41PM BUT IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT, BEAUTIFUL STRUCTURE.
5:37:45PM I HAD A CONVERSATION SUNDAY AFTERNOON WITH A GENTLEMAN WHO
5:37:49PM LOVES TAMPA HISTORY, TALKING ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, UNION
5:37:53PM STATION, SEGREGATION, WHO STAYED THERE.
5:37:55PM IT'S ONE OF TAMPA'S MOST SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURES.

5:37:58PM I'M TIRED OF WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.
5:38:01PM MR. VINIK GAVE A MILLION DOLLARS.
5:38:04PM USF DID THEIR MAPPING.
5:38:07PM TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.
5:38:08PM THIS IS GOING TO BE DEMOLITION BY NEGLECT.
5:38:10PM MENTIONED THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, EVERYBODY ELSE HAS
5:38:12PM DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.
5:38:14PM NOW IT'S JUST I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT BOLD STEP TO
5:38:17PM EXPLORE, AS YOU SAID, SAVING AND PROTECTING THIS HOUSE
5:38:22PM BECAUSE IT'S INVALUABLE.
5:38:24PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORY OF THIS
5:38:28PM COMMUNITY, WE CAN'T LOSE IT.
5:38:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE LOST THE MAAS BROTHERS BUILDING
5:38:33PM DEMOLITION THROUGH NEGLECT.
5:38:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WATCHED THAT DEMOLITION.
5:38:39PM THAT WAS AN ENTIRE CITY BLOCK FROM THE 1920s.
5:38:42PM THE JACKSON HOUSE I THINK CAN BE SAVED AND PUT TO GOOD USE.
5:38:46PM AGAIN, IT'S TOO IMPORTANT.
5:38:48PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
5:38:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THERE IS A PART OF ME
5:38:59PM THAT GREATLY APPRECIATES WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ON THIS.
5:39:03PM THERE ARE TWO THINGS.
5:39:04PM I SPOKE TO CAROLYN COLLINS, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE
5:39:08PM FOUNDATION.
5:39:08PM SHE SAYS NO ONE HAS REACHED OUT TO HER REGARDING THIS WITH

5:39:12PM ANY CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME SO THAT SHE COULD HAVE AN
5:39:15PM OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT HERSELF BEFORE US.
5:39:18PM AND I THINK JUST KIND OF LIKE THE MacDILL SITUATION, WE
5:39:21PM SHOULD GIVE IT ONE MORE SHOT WHERE SHE STANDS BEFORE US
5:39:25PM PUBLICLY TO SAY WHAT IT IS THAT SHE NEEDS TO SAY BEFORE WE
5:39:29PM MAKE A DECISION LIKE THIS, OF THIS MAGNITUDE.
5:39:32PM THE OTHER PART IS THAT I FEEL THAT WE WOULD BE OPENING A CAN
5:39:43PM OF WORMS IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:39:47PM AND WE ARE -- WE WILL BE IN UNDER OUR HEADS AND WOULD HAVE
5:39:52PM COST US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY UNLESS ALL OF THOSE
5:39:56PM FUNDS THAT WERE GIVEN TO THEM, THE FOUNDATION, COMES OVER
5:39:59PM WITH US.
5:40:00PM I THINK THAT THAT'S JUST -- THAT WOULD BE A TINY FRACTION OF
5:40:04PM WHAT IT WOULD REALLY COST TO BRING IT BACK TOGETHER.
5:40:06PM I JUST HAPPENED TO WATCH -- IT WASN'T A DOCUMENTARY, BUT
5:40:11PM THERE WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN STRUCTURE THAT THEY LITERALLY
5:40:14PM TOOK IT APART AND MOVED IT TO ANOTHER CITY AND PUT IT BACK
5:40:19PM TOGETHER.
5:40:20PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE JACKSON HOUSE AND I SAID THIS A YEAR AGO,
5:40:25PM STANDING UP BY A WING AND A PRAYER.
5:40:27PM THE FIRST PERSON AFTER THE STORM, THE SECOND ONE, MILTON,
5:40:32PM ABBYE FEELEY SAID TO ME, THE JACKSON HOUSE IS STILL
5:40:36PM STANDING.
5:40:37PM IT IS STANDING BY A WING AND A PRAYER.
5:40:38PM IT REALLY IS.

5:40:39PM I JUST FEEL AS THOUGH IF IT COMES INTO OUR POSSESSION, IT'S
5:40:43PM JUST GOING TO BE A HUGE PROBLEM WHEN IT FALLS APART AND THEN
5:40:48PM EVERYONE WILL BE EXPECTING US TO FIX IT AND IT'S GOING TO
5:40:51PM COST MORE MONEY THAN WE BARGAIN FOR.
5:40:54PM I JUST REALLY DON'T FEEL LIKE IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
5:40:58PM I THINK THE JACKSON HOUSE, WHICH IS A PREDOMINANTLY BLACK
5:41:02PM ORGANIZATION, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE THEIR OWN
5:41:04PM PROBLEMS AND WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO MOVE WITH
5:41:08PM EXPEDIENCY TO DO SO, SO THAT WE WILL NOT BE PLACED IN THIS
5:41:14PM SITUATION.
5:41:14PM I JUST DON'T THINK WE NEED TO BE THE SAVIOR RIGHT NOW UNTIL
5:41:18PM WE AT LEAST HEAR FROM THEM, GIVE THEM THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
5:41:21PM COME BEFORE US AT LEAST ONE MORE TIME.
5:41:23PM THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT.
5:41:25PM I DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT IT, ALTHOUGH I REALLY FEEL LIKE YOU
5:41:29PM DO CARE ABOUT IT.
5:41:31PM YOU'VE GIVEN ME A LOT OF INDICATIONS ABOUT THAT, EVEN
5:41:35PM INCLUDING THE ARTWORK IN THE HALLWAY, THE CORRIDOR OF OUR
5:41:39PM OFFICE SPACE HERE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.
5:41:42PM I APPRECIATE IT.
5:41:43PM NOT THAT I'M FIGHTING YOU ON IT, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD
5:41:46PM ALLOW CAROLYN COLLINS TO COME BEFORE US.
5:41:49PM IF SHE DOESN'T SHOW UP OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE AND -- IF
5:41:55PM ANYTHING, THEY NEED TO ASK US FOR THE HELP THAT THEY TRULY
5:41:59PM NEED IF SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED.

5:42:02PM CARDIES HAVE DONE THEIR PART.
5:42:03PM SEEMS LIKE ALL THE OTHER THINGS ARE IN PLACE.
5:42:08PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE IT OVER AND IT COLLAPSES ON OUR WATCH
5:42:11PM AND HAVE US PUT IT BACK TOGETHER AT AN EXPENSE WE WEREN'T
5:42:15PM ANTICIPATING.
5:42:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HURTAK.
5:42:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS YOU SAID, I LOVE THE JACKSON HOUSE SO
5:42:21PM MUCH.
5:42:21PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THE PAINTER DEAN MITCHELL,
5:42:25PM INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN PAINTER.
5:42:26PM I BOUGHT A PAINTING FROM HIM OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:42:29PM THOSE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE INSIDE OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:42:31PM THOSE ARE PHOTOGRAPHS.
5:42:33PM AND PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THEM.
5:42:35PM WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SAVE IT 12 YEARS AGO, A PHOTOGRAPHER
5:42:39PM WENT IN AND THERE WERE HAND PRINTS BY WILLIE AND HIS FAMILY
5:42:43PM ON THE WALL.
5:42:44PM SHE TOOK THE PHOTOS AND MADE AN ABSTRACT PHOTO OF IT THAT'S
5:42:47PM ON THE WALL IN CITY COUNCIL.
5:42:49PM BUT IN MY HOUSE, I PERSONALLY BOUGHT A PAINTING BY DEAN
5:42:53PM MITCHELL OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:42:55PM AND I HAD LENNY FOSTER, WHO IS A CIVIL RIGHTS PHOTOGRAPHER
5:42:59PM COME OVER AND TAKE PHOTOS OF THE JACKSON HOUSE.
5:43:01PM I LOVE THE BUILDING AND I WANT TO SAVE IT.
5:43:04PM IN TERMS OF CONTACT, ALIS LEFT HOW MANY, THREE MONTHS AGO,

5:43:08PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
5:43:09PM HE CONTACTED THEM AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.
5:43:14PM HE RESCHEDULED WITH THEM EIGHT TIMES JUST IN THE LAST YEAR.
5:43:18PM I AGREE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM MORE TIME BUT I WANT TO SCHEDULE
5:43:20PM THIS AND SEE IF THAT LIGHTS A FIRE FOR THEM TO COME MEET
5:43:24PM WITH US BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD AN URGENCY TO MEET WITH US
5:43:27PM AT ALL.
5:43:28PM THEY NEED TO NOT JUST TELL US EXCUSES BUT WHAT THEIR PLAN
5:43:31PM IS.
5:43:32PM ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE MONEY REALLY IS GOING TO GO TO THE
5:43:35PM HISTORY CENTER.
5:43:35PM THE HISTORY CENTER IS GOING TO LEAD THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT.
5:43:39PM I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO TAKE IT OVER EITHER, BUT WHAT THE
5:43:42PM JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION NEEDS TO DO IS THEY NEED TO TURN
5:43:45PM OVER CONTROL OF THE HISTORY CENTER NOW SO THE HISTORY CENTER
5:43:48PM CAN OPERATE THIS.
5:43:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WHITE PREDOMINANTLY
5:43:52PM ORGANIZATION TAKING OVER ANOTHER BLACK SPACE JUST LIKE THE
5:43:56PM -- THE, UM, FORTHCOMING HISTORY CENTER IN -- IN THE SCRUB.
5:44:03PM GIVE THEM THIS OPPORTUNITY.
5:44:06PM WHAT IF IT FALLS APART ON OUR WATCH?
5:44:09PM WHAT IF IT FALLS APART AND WE CAN'T PUT IT BACK TOGETHER.
5:44:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE KEEPER OF BLACK HISTORY IN TAMPA RIGHT
5:44:14PM NOW AS IT IS IS THE HISTORY CENTER.
5:44:18PM AND ARGUABLY THE TOP BLACK HISTORIAN IN TAMPA IS AT THE

5:44:21PM HISTORY CENTER.
5:44:22PM HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES WOULD -- AND THE TEAM FROM USF.
5:44:28PM BUT THEY ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION
5:44:30PM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT HAVING THE FAMILY
5:44:32PM INVOLVED.
5:44:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND VIERA.
5:44:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T WE OFFER -- WHAT DATE DID YOU WANT
5:44:42PM THIS?
5:44:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: DECEMBER 19.
5:44:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T YOU INVITE THEM TO COME DECEMBER 19
5:44:51PM AS WELL.
5:44:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS FAIR.
5:44:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS NOT SAYING WE'RE TAKING IT OVER.
5:44:59PM WE'RE GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY AND INFORMATION FROM
5:45:02PM THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
5:45:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S INVITE THEM ALL.
5:45:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE A DECISION OR WE CAN
5:45:09PM HAVE A DISCUSSION AS A GROUP.
5:45:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL ADD TO MY MOTION AND INVITE THE JACKSON
5:45:16PM HOUSE FOUNDATION TO SPEAK.
5:45:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY JUST
5:45:22PM LIKE WE DID WITH --
5:45:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I COMPLETELY AGREE.
5:45:27PM I HAVE THE EXACT SAME SENTIMENT AS YOU AS WE CANNOT TAKE AS
5:45:33PM A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE BODY WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING OVER WHAT

5:45:37PM IS PREDOMINANTLY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN EXPERIENCE.
5:45:41PM IT'S RELEVANT TO THE CITY BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S
5:45:45PM RELEVANT TO THE COMMUNITY.
5:45:47PM I JUST -- I'M VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
5:45:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE] -- AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
5:46:04PM I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
5:46:06PM MAYBE SHE'S LISTENING TODAY BECAUSE SHE IS AWARE OF THIS.
5:46:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER MOTION
5:46:14PM WHICH CAN I READ AGAIN, INVITE THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION
5:46:16PM TO PRESENT THEIR RENOVATION PLAN.
5:46:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, I CAN ACCEPT THAT.
5:46:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:46:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:46:24PM SO I HAD VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
5:46:28PM FOR ME TO SUPPORT PART OF IT, I WOULD NEED -- AGAIN,
5:46:33PM WHATEVER THE VOTES ARE THERE, BUT TO HAVE THE INVITATION BE
5:46:36PM SEPARATE FROM THIS.
5:46:37PM THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLICATED ISSUES WITH THIS, WITH
5:46:39PM NEIGHBORS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS.
5:46:42PM I THINK AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON
5:46:44PM HAVE SAID FOR US A POLITICAL BODY, A MUNICIPALITY TO START
5:46:51PM TO MAKE THREATS AGAINST A PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN AMERICAN
5:46:55PM ORGANIZATION ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, IT HAS TO MEET A HIGHER
5:46:58PM LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT I DON'T THINK IS THERE YET.
5:47:00PM HOWEVER, NUMBER ONE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY

5:47:03PM WORTHWHILE, GETS PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
5:47:06PM I KNOW THAT'S WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTS TO DO IN THAT.
5:47:10PM NUMBER TWO, INVITING THEM TO COME ON DECEMBER 19, BY THE
5:47:12PM WAY, SIX DAYS FROM CHRISTMAS.
5:47:14PM MAYBE DO IT BEFORE, MAYBE AFTERWARDS, BUT HAVE THEM.
5:47:17PM I WROTE DOWN ORDER TO SHOW CAUSE.
5:47:19PM AS AN ATTORNEY, IF A JUDGE SAYS, LISTEN, YOU'RE GOING TO BE
5:47:22PM HERE ON THIS DATE, SHOW CAUSE AS WHY SHOULDN'T DISMISS YOUR
5:47:26PM LAWSUIT.
5:47:27PM KIND OF LIKE THAT.
5:47:28PM NOT THAT WE'RE ORDERING HIM TO BE HERE BUT WE WOULD LIKE FOR
5:47:31PM THEM TO BE HERE AT A CERTAIN TIME.
5:47:33PM FOR ME, I CAN'T SUPPORT AT THIS TIME SOMETHING LIKE THAT
5:47:36PM BEFORE WE EXHAUST OTHER REMEDIES.
5:47:38PM I DO SUPPORT HAVING THEM COME WITH THE DIRECTION OF, LISTEN,
5:47:43PM TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
5:47:45PM WE WANT TO PRESERVE THIS.
5:47:47PM HELP ME HELP YOU.
5:47:51PM THAT'S MY FEELING.
5:47:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:47:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T WE SAY TENTATIVELY THAT THIS IS THE
5:47:57PM DATE.
5:47:58PM IF THAT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM, WE CAN MOVE THE ENTIRE THING
5:48:01PM TO A DATE THAT DOES WORK FOR THEM.
5:48:04PM IT'S NOT SET IN STONE THAT IT IS THE 19th.

5:48:10PM IF THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT, THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT.
5:48:12PM EITHER WAY, WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
5:48:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:48:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT KNOW DRUMGO WAS
5:48:21PM REACHING OUT TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
5:48:23PM I KNOW THEY WERE SCHEDULED, BUT EVEN ONE OF THOSE TIMES SHE
5:48:29PM SAID SHE WASN'T AWARE OF.
5:48:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE THE FLOOR.
5:48:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M SORRY.
5:48:36PM PRO TEM.
5:48:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SHAKING MY HEAD.
5:48:41PM HE -- WHAT I'M HEARING IS THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
5:48:47PM KEEP DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECTING
5:48:50PM DIFFERENT RESULTS.
5:48:51PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YES, ALIS DID REACH OUT MULTIPLE,
5:48:57PM MULTIPLE TIMES.
5:48:58PM IN THIS CHAMBER, THE HEAD OF THE JACKSON FOUNDATION WAS
5:49:01PM BEFORE US AND WAS ASKED TO COME BACK AND GIVE THESE REPORTS.
5:49:05PM WE'VE ALREADY GONE DOWN THIS PROCESS AND NOTHING HAS
5:49:08PM HAPPENED.
5:49:08PM IT'S DETERIORATED THAT MUCH FURTHER.
5:49:11PM WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE CITY, NOT A FINANCIAL
5:49:16PM INTEREST, AND ALSO A CULTURAL INTEREST ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
5:49:20PM AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US
5:49:23PM AND PASSED AND LIVE HERE TODAY AND WILL LIVE HERE TOMORROW

5:49:27PM TO PURSUE THIS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
5:49:30PM I THINK HAVING SOME TYPE OF THRESHOLD, BECAUSE CLEARLY, THIS
5:49:36PM HASN'T GONE ON JUST A YEAR.
5:49:39PM HOW MANY YEARS HAS THIS GONE ON.
5:49:42PM THIS FOOTBALL IS LIKE CHARLIE BROWN.
5:49:44PM THE FOOTBALL GETS SET UP AND LUCY PULLS THE FOOTBALL OUT
5:49:47PM FROM UNDER HIM EVERY SINGLE TIME.
5:49:49PM THERE'S GOT TO BE A MOMENT, AND I THINK THAT MOMENT PASSED A
5:49:55PM LONG TIME AGO.
5:49:56PM WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO PULL THE TRIGGER, THIS TIME
5:50:01PM HAS COME AND GONE.
5:50:02PM THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THIS COUNCIL.
5:50:04PM WE INVESTED MONEY.
5:50:06PM OTHER COMPANIES HAVE INVESTED MONEY.
5:50:09PM COME FORWARD TO COUNCIL WITH A PLAN OR THEY NEED TO
5:50:11PM RELINQUISH CONTROL.
5:50:13PM IF THEY WON'T DO THAT, I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
5:50:16PM OBJECTIVE IS ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.
5:50:19PM EITHER THE CARROT OR THE STICK AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.
5:50:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
5:50:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, IF THE MOTION IS GEARED TOWARDS COME ON
5:50:29PM THIS DATE AND IF WE DON'T GET SOMETHING SATISFACTORY, THEN
5:50:32PM WE'LL START EXPLORING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT'S SOMETHING
5:50:37PM I CAN SUPPORT.
5:50:38PM BUT PUTTING THAT ON THE MENU THIS TIME, LIKE I SAID, WHEN I

5:50:42PM SAW THE MEMO, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT ALIS.
5:50:47PM I'LL REACH OUT TO HIM.
5:50:49PM THINK THE MEMO CAME OUT ON TUESDAY.
5:50:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MANY BRIEFINGS AND DISCUSSIONS, MAYBE
5:50:54PM THAT'S PART OF MY FRUSTRATION.
5:50:56PM THIS HAS GONE ON FOREVER.
5:50:58PM IF HE HAD HAIR, HE WOULD BE PULLING IT OUT.
5:51:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AS WELL.
5:51:05PM THAT'S WHAT I PREFER.
5:51:06PM I DIDN'T HAVE TIME AFTER TUESDAY BECAUSE I WAS MOURNING THE
5:51:10PM ELECTION, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
5:51:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL IT'S SAYING, COME BACK AND TALK TO US
5:51:15PM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF IT.
5:51:16PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO VOTE ON THAT DAY TO DEMOLISH IT.
5:51:20PM BY THE WAY, HAD LINDA SAUL-SENA NOT INTERVENED IN 2012 IT
5:51:25PM WOULD HAVE BEEN TORN DOWN AND WILLIE'S FAMILY WOULD BE OUT A
5:51:28PM HUNDRED GRAND OR MORE.
5:51:30PM MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON DECEMBER 19 AS TO THE
5:51:34PM POSSIBILITY OF THE CITY LEVYING FINES AND/OR CONDEMNING THE
5:51:38PM JACKSON HOUSE PROPERTY WITH THE PURPOSE OF TAKING IT OVER
5:51:41PM BEFORE A STORM DESTROYS IT.
5:51:43PM ONCE THE CITY HAS POSSESSION OF THE PROPERTY, THE CITY WOULD
5:51:45PM THEN WORK WITH USF, THE HISTORY CENTER, AND THE JACKSON
5:51:48PM HOUSE FOUNDATION TO RENOVATE AND REBUILD THE STRUCTURE.
5:51:51PM AND WE WILL INVITE THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION TO PRESENT

5:51:55PM THEIR RENOVATION PLAN AT THE SAME TIME.
5:51:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
5:52:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:52:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:52:03PM AYE.
5:52:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:52:06PM >> NAY.
5:52:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M OKAY WITH IT FOR NOW.
5:52:10PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO AND MIRANDA
5:52:14PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:52:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, IF YOU CAN HELP US
5:52:18PM TO GET THEM TO COME FOR RENOVATION PLAN, YOU'LL BE MY HERO.
5:52:34PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
5:52:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY SON HAS A PLAY AT 6:30.
5:52:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:52:47PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
5:52:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A SHORT -- LIMIT TO
5:53:03PM FIVE MINUTES OR TEN MINUTES CEREMONIAL.
5:53:06PM IF YOU WANT TO DO A TIME CERTAIN, FIRST THING AFTER LUNCH.
5:53:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: 1:30 TIME CERTAIN.
5:53:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
5:53:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:53:14PM AYE.
5:53:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO
5:53:18PM RELAY TO YOU.

5:53:20PM BECAUSE OF THE STORMS, WE HAD SEVERAL NIGHT MEETINGS.
5:53:24PM WE HAD TWO NIGHT MEETINGS CANCELED.
5:53:26PM AND NOW PER THE CODE THOSE ITEMS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO LET'S
5:53:33PM SAY NEXT WEEK'S MEETING AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES MOVED TO THE
5:53:39PM ONE -- 14th IS NEXT WEEK AND THEN THE 21st BECAUSE OF
5:53:44PM THE HOLIDAY.
5:53:45PM BASICALLY WHERE WE STAND NOW IS IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN NEXT
5:53:50PM WEEK'S AGENDA COMES OUT ON FRIDAY, YOU WILL SEE FOR NEXT
5:53:54PM THURSDAY NIGHT 15 ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
5:54:00PM THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE STACKED IS THE ITEMS THAT WERE
5:54:03PM CONTINUED FROM OCTOBER WILL BE FIRST ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE
5:54:06PM THOSE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY A MONTH BEHIND.
5:54:10PM I'M GOING TO ASK -- WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT CAN BE CONTINUED.
5:54:13PM COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONTEMPLATE GIVING THE PEOPLE UP FRONT
5:54:17PM TO ASK FOR CONTINUANCES WITHOUT PENALTY.
5:54:19PM I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO BE PREPARED.
5:54:21PM I BELIEVE IT MIGHT EVEN BE ACTUALLY MORE THAN 15 ON THE
5:54:25PM AGENDA BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE SOME THAT MIGHT BE CONTINUED OR
5:54:28PM ASKING FOR CONTINUANCES ALREADY.
5:54:33PM >>THE CLERK: 19 AND ONE NOT GOING TO BE HEARD, MISNOTICE,
5:54:37PM AND THREE --
5:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE AT 15.
5:54:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST REQUEST THAT WE HAVE DINNER.
5:54:46PM DINNER AND SOME SNACKS.
5:54:51PM AND NOT PIZZA.

5:54:52PM I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY TO BE PREPARED FOR NEXT
5:55:02PM THURSDAY, BOTH WITH REGARD TO FOOD, ALSO WITH REGARD TO
5:55:07PM BEING WELL RESTED AND PREPARED FOR THAT AND ALSO A GOOD
5:55:10PM PERIOD OF TIME UP FRONT FOR HOUSE KEEPING TO GIVE PEOPLE AN
5:55:14PM OPPORTUNITY TO DETERMINE HOW YOU WILL HANDLE THE EVENING.
5:55:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING I ASK IS AT THAT MEETING WE
5:55:21PM ALSO HAVE A CLEAR, SAYS NINE FOR DECEMBER 12, BUT TO HAVE AN
5:55:28PM UPDATE OF WHERE THE NINE STAND, SO IF PEOPLE DO WANT TO
5:55:34PM MOVE, BECAUSE DECEMBER IS JUST INSANE.
5:55:38PM THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD REQUEST IS MAYBE HAVING
5:55:42PM DECEMBER AND JANUARY'S DATES.
5:55:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD NIGHT.
5:56:00PM THANK YOU.
5:56:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:56:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
5:56:03PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
5:56:04PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
5:56:05PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

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